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what makes a trainer special, one like ton burns that can constantly produce talent like 300 national champs from scratch when lots of gyms cant even do 1

do they teach better technique?

better strategy?

have their gym open more so boxers can train more than at most other gyms?

do some areas have more naturally talented kids around them?


primarily interested in guys that take kids from scratch, rather than picking up already successful fighters

Teach fighters the best way that suits them, works toward building their weaknesses, sharpening their strengths, good strategist, strict on the basics, knows about timing, when to do what with a certain fighter, doesn't do all bulls**t showy padwork leaping all round gaff making it all about them,

I think the most impressive trait in a trainer is when they get success out of fighters with completely different styles

The fighter they work with

catchphrases are key, i find, in highlighting the charlatans

the more catchphrases they have.......

and yes 'Lions in the camp' is exactly what I'm thinking about

A special fighter

Talking. Respect of the fighter. Experience.

I’d like to see more trainers work on defence. Seems to be the last thing a boxer learns.

The great trainers have got to give a bit of themselves to the boxers they train. The amateur guys are the unsung heroes.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑03 Feb 2021, 09:34 I’d like to see more trainers work on defence. Seems to be the last thing a boxer learns.

The great trainers have got to give a bit of themselves to the boxers they train. The amateur guys are the unsung heroes.

brian hughes was great at emphasising defence

I think psychology is a big part of it. Know your fighter, get the best out of them. Ingle comes to mind.

reading a fighter , you cant change someone totally, but you can teach him good habbits , its also very psychological like cus d'amato. i think with a top boxer you need some one teaches minor and is all about getting youre fighter in the zone and healthy , for young fighters i think coaches who like trainning fighters

Being able to properly communicate with their pupils. Not roaring and making it all about themselves.

By saying 'lions in the camp' over and over again...oh, you don't mean that type of special do you?

“Empty the tank” with 5 rounds left

Any of the top class amateur trainers I’ve met just have that extra bit about them. They are all business.

On the flip side you can spot the shite ones too straight away. Asses hanging out of their tracksuits , late and no warm up or kit for their boxers.

It’s hard to be consistent with a full gym. I know a few guys who are great trainers with a couple of lads.... favourites. My nephew benefited from this, the trainer ended up like a father to him, but I know other kids struggled.

A trainer who is schooled enough to work with what the boxer has and maximize what they do best and mitigate what they do worst (Steward). Trainers who have only one way of training (I.E. Abel Sanchez; Teddy Atlas) have to have a boxer who fits their style.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2021, 19:08 It’s hard to be consistent with a full gym. I know a few guys who are great trainers with a couple of lads.... favourites. My nephew benefited from this, the trainer ended up like a father to him, but I know other kids struggled.

That’s an excellent practical point mate

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑07 Feb 2021, 07:28

mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2021, 19:08 It’s hard to be consistent with a full gym. I know a few guys who are great trainers with a couple of lads.... favourites. My nephew benefited from this, the trainer ended up like a father to him, but I know other kids struggled.

That’s an excellent practical point mate

I think it was Our Smigga who alluded to this on Tris’s show when talking about his time at Billy Graham’s. No idea who Billy’s favourite was.

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I trained a few golden glove champions in the late 1980s-early 1990s. I was an assistant to my partner. This guy was a mentor and he knew how to get the most of a boxer. He could bring them down and up and knew the mind. He was also a guy who just as he called had a good fight mind. Agreed. I also apprenticed under another who told me fighters have got to be motivated. It does not matter if they are 3 round golden glove fighters 4 round prelim fighter 10 round main event fighters or 12-15 round championship fighters they must be motivated. He also used to say that the closest thing to a pro fight is an amateur fight. How true in front of a crowd with a verdict to be decided. It was the real deal. I was very fortunate to work under not just one but two boxing gurus. We will refer to them as NL and JT. I also believe you must have good communication and establish a trusting relationship with your boxer. Also you must know your guys weak and strong points and be approachable.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑03 Feb 2021, 09:34 I’d like to see more trainers work on defence. Seems to be the last thing a boxer learns.

The great trainers have got to give a bit of themselves to the boxers they train. The amateur guys are the unsung heroes.

My mentor was a stickler on D. Defense is very underappreciated overlooked and taken for granite. It must not be disregarded . Many trainers could focus and concentrate on this aspect. Never underestimate the mind and the mental aspect of any endeavor that you participate in.

First and foremost , a trainer must have the tools to work with , the correct boy , who wants to learn and listen , and also have the skills , then success breeds success , and they feed and learn of each other ,, But once they have that I think what sets good trainers apart from others is the ability to have what i call the eye ,,,, A trainer with that can spot a boxers mistakes and correct them , a good trainer will teach the basics to perfection , and teach each boxer to have there own style suited to there ability and physice ,

coneye wrote: ↑07 Feb 2021, 18:15 First and foremost , a trainer must have the tools to work with , the correct boy , who wants to learn and listen , and also have the skills , then success breeds success , and they feed and learn of each other ,, But once they have that I think what sets good trainers apart from others is the ability to have what i call the eye ,,,, A trainer with that can spot a boxers mistakes and correct them , a good trainer will teach the basics to perfection , and teach each boxer to have there own style suited to there ability and physice ,

I concur with you totally. These are qualities that make a great trainer.