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Would it be wiser for Deontay Wilder to have a confidence-building warm-up fight soon, rather than waiting for the outcome of the arbitration with Fury?

A long layoff after a devastating loss like Wilder suffered a year ago cannot be good for him. I think he needs a fight to get his focus back, instead of more long months of ruminating about what caused the loss to Fury.

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑06 Feb 2021, 16:31 Would it be wiser for Deontay Wilder to have a confidence-building warm-up fight soon, rather than waiting for the outcome of the arbitration with Fury?

A long layoff after a devastating loss like Wilder suffered a year ago cannot be good for him. I think he needs a fight to get his focus back, instead of more long months of ruminating about what caused the loss to Fury.

With what he’s said post fight I think it’s going to be really difficult for him to be taken seriously as a top star fighter.

He’ll be best off fighting someone like Helenius or Charles Martin and then staying active - try and fight every 4 months or so to build the confidence up.

Still can’t see him getting his shit together and winning another big fight.

Money Age Desire

My guess is that he isn't quite set for life, or at least the lifestyle he wants to keep living. So money is a good motivator.
His age could be a factor, as well as the injuries he has sustained, and surgeries that we know about. It's often late 30's when you start to feel them.
Does he still want a belt? And more importantly, does he still have the mentality of a champ deep down.

I'm sure he can make good money for a while fighting guys like Martin, Kow, even Ruiez. But facing Joshua or Fury again is, I feel, unlikely.

if he is delusional enough to actually believe his record setting list of excuses, his confidence may actually be okay, cuz he's convinced himself it wasnt his own shortcoming that lost it

and although being delusional can prevent ppl from improving their shortcomings (cuz they dont think they have them), he was hardly working on those much anyway, despite the bizarre stuff of how losing every round in the ortiz rematch showed so much improvement

the age is getting up there thhough, going on 36, and he is an athletically based fighter who relies in large part on speed and power. not to mention his countless injuries could get worse and recover more slowly. of course we've seen hws older than that have success, though they are technically better

at his age, lack of activity, all factors considered.....he's prob going downward from here, but is still good enough to beat most guys at least for a while

i'd think he has plenty of big money options left too, maybe not the level he was offered before to fight aj, but should make well still vs ruiz etc

I think Trevor Bryan would be the perfect opponent for Wilder.

He's not really a top heavyweight, but he does have a belt. Winning that belt (although it's really meaningless) would be good for Wilder at this time.

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑06 Feb 2021, 17:50 I think Trevor Bryan would be the perfect opponent for Wilder.

He's not really a top heavyweight, but he does have a belt. Winning that belt (although it's really meaningless) would be good for Wilder at this time.

Don't think that will draw the right money for Wilder. Also, as you mentioned, the belt is a bit obscure.
Even casual fans know, it's either AJ or Fury if you want to be champion.

He will fight Charles Martin and ko him in 2 rounds

He will be fine

It's impossible to judge without knowing exactly what injuries he sustained in the fight. I believe that he got his eardrum ruptured in round 2, but he claims that he didn't. If he didn't experience a ruptured eardrum, then all of that stumbling around the ring must've been from a concussion. If he was concussed, then it's hard to judge how long it will be before he can return without signs of damage (probably won't be 100% before like 14 months or something, but can take a tune-up after like 8 months). If it was just an eardrum rupture, then I really don't know what is the prognosis for recovery, but it must be serious, since he's denying it super hard.

There are also claims that he had an injured bicep before the fight, but I dunno.

You never know for sure, but I think, he'll get bashed, if he faces a decent opponent next.

I’ve got a feeling that he’ll be ones of those ruined by his first loss (see other thread). Never had the fundamentals, but this was covered by his bone numbing power. Will still be a risk to many, but can see him racking up a few stoppage losses too. No spring chicken either and doesnt seem to be accepting that he needs to make improvement, just blaming others.

Long lay off or short lay off he's still going to be a mediocre boxer who might KO his opponent with one right hand at any time. So pretty much no effect at all.

Recent interview:

He has to get in at top level. A 30 second blowout against a nobody isn't going to help him.

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑07 Feb 2021, 09:45 Recent interview:

I can't listen to that. What the f*ck is 78 Sports TV? I've never heard of it. I got to the point where Wilder started speaking and then turned it off.

Until he actually has a fight and has an 'interviewer' that isn't one of his personal friends with a fake channel I can't give him oxygen. He needs to be properly challenged on what he's said and he needs to back it up by fighting again. If not, shut up and f*ck off.

he will fight more tomato cans and continue to get paid for a year or two , but somewhere along the line he will get well clocked again .

expect him to posture for an AJ fight to earn the big money .

his lunacy is next level. what a disgrace.

cause he obviously never learned to deal with defeat he throws the single legit professional in his team under the bus, the man who cared and literally tried to save his life, without any proof, just beyond crazy.

mark breland was a gifted boxer, a olympic champion & world champion and is a all around respected trainer. try to find anybody who has to say a bad word about him.

shame on you beyonce, cause you know what you're doing.

nobody can be that crazy (well, not so sure bout that)

Still a decent chance to KO anyone not named Tyson Fury.

adislav123 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2021, 12:15 his lunacy is next level. what a disgrace.

cause he obviously never learned to deal with defeat he throws the single legit professional in his team under the bus, the man who cared and literally tried to save his life, without any proof, just beyond crazy.

mark breland was a gifted boxer, a olympic champion & world champion and is a all around respected trainer. try to find anybody who has to say a bad word about him.

shame on you beyonce, cause you know what you're doing.

nobody can be that crazy (well, not so sure bout that)

Well, let's hope he's managed to get his head back into some daylight and fresh air.

His future fights will all be even more exciting if his opponents try to follow the Fury blueprint in future.

When Fury came looking for a war, Wilder was found wanting. A ridiculous situation when you have the best right hand on the planet.

Shouldn't have mattered whether Fury cheated or not, (it's certainly not beyond the PED user and there's certainly some room for doubt) the fact is he should have been sparked out.

I suspect Wilder is really kicking himself for what happened that night but unfortunately his ego won't let him accept the blame.

Not the done thing in this most macho of sports.

Wilder should stay away from Fury. That's a dead end.
He should find a new trainer that can teach him a few basics to improve defense and ring movement.
Take a couple tune ups and pick up a dropped belt (there will be one).
Do what he did for a few more years and retire.

and finally stop being a Trump clone (look how that worked for him). Nobody cheated or drugged him
he just got his butt whooped. It happens.

i mean he's going on 36 and has shown little change at all , despite being a pro for 13 years and 40+ fights, not sure any trainer can get him to change his game at this point,

esp when he denies that he did anything wrong and that it was all everyone elses falt

snake33 wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 00:43 and finally stop being a Trump clone

I think you should halt sharing your political opinions. This is a BOXING forum, not a political debate forum.

Wilder is done, not sure if he will ever be back, I think the best for him is to fight Joshua after he loses to Fury and then retire.

Las Vegas boxing guy wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 11:11

snake33 wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 00:43 and finally stop being a Trump clone

I think you should halt sharing your political opinions. This is a BOXING forum, not a political debate forum.

Yes, he should.

The good news is that TDS can be treatable, even after many years of suffering.

Best to leave that wound alone to heal.

How about taking a time-out?

A few years off years should do it.

They say hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Sorry if I offended anybody. You read way too much into my statement.
But Wilder making endless excuses for a fight he clearly lost will not help his career.
That doesn't work for anybody.
Man up. Admit you lost and do the work to improve next time.

he is pretty deranged isn't he, took his loss like a total crybaby snowflake


but which guy am i referring to ?