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Jamal Herring
Jermall Charlo
Jermell Charlo
Demetrius Andrade
Jose Ramirez
Caleb Plant
Artem Dalakian
Ilunga Makaku
Ryota Murata
Yordenis Ugas

agree on herring, but then the list goes downhill fast, but then gets back on track for the last ones

tbh , looking over all the current champs , its not a bad group you know

Herring and Murata are definitely beatable Titleholders. To be honest I don't know who Dalakian is.

Jermell Charlo is probably the #1 guy at 154 right so I don't see how he's a weak World Champion.

Ugas probably doesn't have much chance against Errol Spence or Crawford, but he's a very live dog for anyone else at Welterweight. I'd love it if he got a fight with Pacquiao or Thurman or someone like that because he'd probably be the betting underdog, and I'd bet heavily on him to win, and I'd be right.

Former marine herring for sure. Murata too

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 20:59 Former marine herring for sure. Murata too

Yeah it's hard to imagine Murata beating any serious Contender at Middleweight. Herring competes at what 135 or is it 140? If it's 135 he'd get his clock cleaned by like 7 guys there for sure, and at 140 at least 3 or 4 would beat him.

Some shots fired on this list.

I totally disagree about the Charlos especially Mell. He’s the top dawg at 154. Castano will be a seriously tough opponent though, and that’s a close fight.

Mine:
1. Trevor Bryan
2. Murata
3. Ugas
4. Herring
5. Nordine Oubali

bobcatbox wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 23:43 Some shots fired on this list.

I totally disagree about the Charlos especially Mell. He’s the top dawg at 154. Castano will be a seriously tough opponent though, and that’s a close fight.

Mine:
1. Trevor Bryan
2. Murata
3. Ugas
4. Herring
5. Nordine Oubali

Trevor Bryan holds a title?

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 23:47

bobcatbox wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 23:43 Some shots fired on this list.

I totally disagree about the Charlos especially Mell. He’s the top dawg at 154. Castano will be a seriously tough opponent though, and that’s a close fight.

Mine:
1. Trevor Bryan
2. Murata
3. Ugas
4. Herring
5. Nordine Oubali

Trevor Bryan holds a title?

WBA regular. He won it at Don King’s semi-real card in Florida a few weeks ago. Beat Bermane Stiverne who was bumped up into the fight after the belt holder, Charr, turned out to have the wrong visa so he couldn’t work AKA fight. Whole big thing. Don King at his finest. It’s hilarious. Sadder part is that he’ll probably jump a deserving contender and get a fight with Fury/Wilder in 2022 assuming they don’t strip him for inactivity (they won’t) and get a huge payday for it. I have some hope that he might have to defend it on a $20 FITE card against a weak King opponent so he can at least get warmed up a little first.

Oh I see.

Really even though I like Ugas. That WBA Regular sh*t should just be completely discounted by fans. In most cases I don't know who has those titles, and I don't give a damn.

More 1 Champion is one too many as it is. When there's more than 1 Champion of a single Title Org. I mean Jesus Christ, where does it end?

Your sentiments about the WBA regular and interim belts are felt by most true boxing fans. I don’t think I’ll ever understand it. Super stupid. And I don’t mind the whole international champ concept as a title eliminator or regional champs. I can get behind that. I can behind secondary orgs like NABF. Just don’t understand it at all.

bobcatbox wrote: ↑17 Feb 2021, 00:30 Your sentiments about the WBA regular and interim belts are felt by most true boxing fans. I don’t think I’ll ever understand it. Super stupid. And I don’t mind the whole international champ concept as a title eliminator or regional champs. I can get behind that. I can behind secondary orgs like NABF. Just don’t understand it at all.

I don't mind Regional Champions like say European Champion, North American Japan, Canadian Champion...etc.

But hell there's even multiple versions of that sh*t now. Like I think some of the Title orgs have their own version of those titles as well. I know there's a WBO European Champion.

It's just watered down as all hell. Basically any fight that gets televised they're gonna find some f*cking belt to put on the line.Even if they gotta make one up.

the intercontintental ones are funny, basically it just a fancy way of saying dudes from anywhere can fight for it

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Feb 2021, 00:53 the intercontintental ones are funny, basically it just a fancy way of saying dudes from anywhere can fight for it

Kinda like a "World Championship"

The fact that Charlo on this list is just stupid.

I knew people wouldn't agree with me on the Charlos. But I put them in anyway

I think they're overrated from the Korobov, Trout and Tony Harrison fights

TheRealz wrote: ↑18 Feb 2021, 12:03 I knew people wouldn't agree with me on the Charlos. But I put them in anyway

I think they're overrated from the Korobov, Trout and Tony Harrison fights

If you wanna say Jermall is overrated, you might have a slight case, but calling Jermell the #1 guy currently at 154 a weak Champion is just nonsense.

Not liking the guy don't make him a weak Champion. I don't like either one of 'em myself, but Jermell has done more at 154 than anyone else.

Both charlos have good wins. Derevyanchenko wasn't close to winning but he was even with GGG and jacobs

TheRealz wrote: ↑18 Feb 2021, 12:03 I knew people wouldn't agree with me on the Charlos. But I put them in anyway

I think they're overrated from the Korobov, Trout and Tony Harrison fights

Overrated ok but weak crazy. I know you like fighters with less of resume of the Charlos.

I think everyone roots against the Charlos. There's something fundamentally unlikeable about those guys, not sure what it is. They're arrogant and obnoxious but so are dozens of other fighters and they aren't street trash like Broner. They've surpassed my expectations, I thought they'd crumble as soon as they stepped in against world class opposition. But they've proven themselves as tough formidable fighters. It'll be fun when someone finally beats them silly.

thereverend wrote: ↑18 Feb 2021, 20:00 I think everyone roots against the Charlos. There's something fundamentally unlikeable about those guys, not sure what it is. They're arrogant and obnoxious but so are dozens of other fighters and they aren't street trash like Broner. They've surpassed my expectations, I thought they'd crumble as soon as they stepped in against world class opposition. But they've proven themselves as tough formidable fighters. It'll be fun when someone finally beats them silly.

Maybe it is the hair? It pisses me off that their first names are only one letter different.

I loved when Harrison got the decision against the one Charlo.

JCS wrote: ↑18 Feb 2021, 22:56

thereverend wrote: ↑18 Feb 2021, 20:00 I think everyone roots against the Charlos. There's something fundamentally unlikeable about those guys, not sure what it is. They're arrogant and obnoxious but so are dozens of other fighters and they aren't street trash like Broner. They've surpassed my expectations, I thought they'd crumble as soon as they stepped in against world class opposition. But they've proven themselves as tough formidable fighters. It'll be fun when someone finally beats them silly.

Maybe it is the hair? It pisses me off that their first names are only one letter different.

I loved when Harrison got the decision against the one Charlo.

They are unlikes some because they fight a little safe. Not brawlers or all that fan friendly for casuals. And even for hardcore guys it’s hard to accept Mall as best middleweight until he meets and defeats GGG or Canelo. They’re terrific fighters, and most of us just want to see them fight good fighters.

Ramirez is a miracle he is still a champ after two questionable MDs and going life-and-death against Mo Hooker. If Tartan does not win, something is strange.

Makabu and Ugas maybe cannot beat the number one or two but they are extremely tricky and hard for the others.

Herring is beatable, Murata too, Andrade is a living question mark (he still has fooled some serious contenders), Dalakian I do not know.

Mendez and Dalakian are both waiting for their titles to be taken away, Nery won't have a long reign at 122, Herring seems like he'll have a limited reign (though I fancy him vs Frampton), Ugas's title is a joke, BJS is a weak champion IMO.

JxhDel. wrote: ↑19 Feb 2021, 19:22 Ramirez is a miracle he is still a champ after two questionable MDs and going life-and-death against Mo Hooker. If Tartan does not win, something is strange.

Makabu and Ugas maybe cannot beat the number one or two but they are extremely tricky and hard for the others.

Herring is beatable, Murata too, Andrade is a living question mark (he still has fooled some serious contenders), Dalakian I do not know.

life and death with hooker? lmao he dropped his ass then stopped him and was ahead the whole fight