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oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Feb 2021, 21:17 Emanual Steward. I find him great in every way. Seems like he was an especially good man.

goose 5 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2021, 20:12 My choices are Teddy Brenner, Ray Arcel and Eddie Futch but I can't choose only 1.

goose 5 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2021, 20:12 My choices are Teddy Brenner, Ray Arcel and Eddie Futch but I can't choose only 1.

DavidKehler wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 01:36 Frankie Carbo

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑19 Feb 2021, 22:05

oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Feb 2021, 21:17 Emanual Steward. I find him great in every way. Seems like he was an especially good man.

I met him in person and yes he was a great man!

goose 5 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 13:56 I've read it but it's a little superficial for me. Based on the criteria of this tread, Brenner could write a whole lot more.

f read wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 17:14

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑19 Feb 2021, 22:05

oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Feb 2021, 21:17 Emanual Steward. I find him great in every way. Seems like he was an especially good man.

I met him in person and yes he was a great man!

You know Antonio i never met the man. However i got a mixed bag on him from several. My doctor knew him personally said he was great. I knew two others who did not have anything good to say about him. The first guy told me Emmanuel owed him money and he was d***ked over by him. He did not give any details or information. The second guy made him tapes of a fighter one of his proteges was facing he took many hours of his own time and Fed Exed him overnight so he would have it within days. He promised my friend several autographed pictures well all he ended up receiving was a pair of sweaty old hand wraps. Now this is not my own experience with the man but 2 friends who never met or knew each other told unfavorable accounts of him and both are trustworthy credible people who would not fabricate a situation or make up a tall tale.

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 19:22

f read wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 17:14

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑19 Feb 2021, 22:05

I met him in person and yes he was a great man!

You know Antonio i never met the man. However i got a mixed bag on him from several. My doctor knew him personally said he was great. I knew two others who did not have anything good to say about him. The first guy told me Emmanuel owed him money and he was d***ked over by him. He did not give any details or information. The second guy made him tapes of a fighter one of his proteges was facing he took many hours of his own time and Fed Exed him overnight so he would have it within days. He promised my friend several autographed pictures well all he ended up receiving was a pair of sweaty old hand wraps. Now this is not my own experience with the man but 2 friends who never met or knew each other told unfavorable accounts of him and both are trustworthy credible people who would not fabricate a situation or make up a tall tale.

Well, with me it was the other way around: At the time I was part of a larger group of people who collected autographs and we had members everywhere...I mean everywhere! The airports, all major hotels, even on street corners..( ok not on street corners) we even took to calling ourselves the CIA of autograph collectors. If someone famous was somewhere, someone in our group would share the information down the chain and whoever was interested would go to the place and get items autographed. Many times it was just me and my family, others, like for example the day Axl Rose arrived in Phoenix, you had 10, 15 of our "agents" at the airport.

Anyways so Lennox Lewis hit Phoenix to train for the rematch with Oliver McCall. We found out and went to the hotel he was staying at. This being boxing, and also on a school day morning, no one else from the group showed up that day. I had a glove for Lennox but could not find anything to take for Emmanuel, so when I saw Emmanuel and tried to get him to sign a KO Boxing cards checklist, he saw my sorry excuse for an autograph item, took pity on me and took me and my dad (who was with me that day) to his room, where he took a couple of photos and autographed them on the spot!!!

Then we spoke boxing...man we spoke boxing! I could tell he liked his boxers as he was well aware of the fate of many of the boxers who had trained at Kronk, and told me all about Milton McCrory working at a car dealership and about some of the others.

He was very nice to me and my dad, I'll always remember that from him!

But..man was his room a mess!!!

f read wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 20:08

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 19:22

f read wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 17:14

You know Antonio i never met the man. However i got a mixed bag on him from several. My doctor knew him personally said he was great. I knew two others who did not have anything good to say about him. The first guy told me Emmanuel owed him money and he was d***ked over by him. He did not give any details or information. The second guy made him tapes of a fighter one of his proteges was facing he took many hours of his own time and Fed Exed him overnight so he would have it within days. He promised my friend several autographed pictures well all he ended up receiving was a pair of sweaty old hand wraps. Now this is not my own experience with the man but 2 friends who never met or knew each other told unfavorable accounts of him and both are trustworthy credible people who would not fabricate a situation or make up a tall tale.

Well, with me it was the other way around: At the time I was part of a larger group of people who collected autographs and we had members everywhere...I mean everywhere! The airports, all major hotels, even on street corners..( ok not on street corners) we even took to calling ourselves the CIA of autograph collectors. If someone famous was somewhere, someone in our group would share the information down the chain and whoever was interested would go to the place and get items autographed. Many times it was just me and my family, others, like for example the day Axl Rose arrived in Phoenix, you had 10, 15 of our "agents" at the airport.

Anyways so Lennox Lewis hit Phoenix to train for the rematch with Oliver McCall. We found out and went to the hotel he was staying at. This being boxing, and also on a school day morning, no one else from the group showed up that day. I had a glove for Lennox but could not find anything to take for Emmanuel, so when I saw Emmanuel and tried to get him to sign a KO Boxing cards checklist, he saw my sorry excuse for an autograph item, took pity on me and took me and my dad (who was with me that day) to his room, where he took a couple of photos and autographed them on the spot!!!

Then we spoke boxing...man we spoke boxing! I could tell he liked his boxers as he was well aware of the fate of many of the boxers who had trained at Kronk, and told me all about Milton McCrory working at a car dealership and about some of the others.

He was very nice to me and my dad, I'll always remember that from him!

But..man was his room a mess!!!

You know we have our own experiences with people good and or bad. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and find out for myself and the way our relationship is. The fact is we do not know them personally. I let people know that meeting a person one time does not mean you know them personally. I have known a few boxers i will not give names for purpose of anonymity. Yes i did not meet them i actually knew them personally. The two nicest sociable wrestlers i ever met were Dan Severn who i met twice and Ivan Koloff. Not to get to far off the topic but one guy who is dead who you would like to get an autobiography would be Johnny. Owen. He died from injuries sustained in the September 19 1980 WBC Bantamweight title fight against Lupe Pintor. He was a man who dedicated his life to boxing and died because of it. He was 24 years of age and was not even interested in women because it would interfere with his boxing career. He died doing what he loved to do. The man was a warrior and like Deuk Koo Kim had to much guts and courage for his own good.

bobcatbox wrote: ↑21 Feb 2021, 16:05 Sonny Liston.

DavidKehler wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021, 01:36

goose 5 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2021, 20:12 My choices are Teddy Brenner, Ray Arcel and Eddie Futch but I can't choose only 1.

Teddy Brenner's "Only the Ring Was Square" was dramatically reduced at the behest of attorneys representing the publisher.