Yes agreed. Every single time the people counted Duran out he silenced his critics. Yes he was 37 years of age at this time as well. This was a very courageous performance and he showed his true greatness in this contest. Yes certainly one of the top 10 pound for pound boxers in the history of the sport.elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 11:36 Unbelievable win! It was the great Roberto Duran most courageous performance. With that win, to me, Duran is one of the top 5 greatest pound per pound boxers ever.
I remember announcer Al Berstein and color commentary, the great Gil Clancy saying that Duran's win was a miracle. I think it was. He whupped someone that was bigger, stronger, faster, taller, and younger than he. A performance of the ages for both fighters!
They stopped same day weigh ins after mustafa Muhammad/spinks got cancelled early in the 80's.Monzon83 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 17:05 This fight was the first Duran fight i ever watched. Heard he was a legend but was too young to see his prime years.
Still an amazing win against one of the biggest MW's i've ever seen. Barkley would still be a huge MW now. Think they had same day weigh-ins back then so he didn't even get 24 hours to rehydrate like they do now.
For Duran at 37 to beat him was an incredible win.
Part 2....yepOnetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 18:25They stopped same day weigh ins after mustafa Muhammad/spinks got cancelled early in the 80's.Monzon83 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 17:05 This fight was the first Duran fight i ever watched. Heard he was a legend but was too young to see his prime years.
Still an amazing win against one of the biggest MW's i've ever seen. Barkley would still be a huge MW now. Think they had same day weigh-ins back then so he didn't even get 24 hours to rehydrate like they do now.
For Duran at 37 to beat him was an incredible win.
You all needed to live in Puerto Rico pre-cable Pay Per View days! No closed circuit there, every fight was free on TV!Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 05:49 I remember seeing the result on the bottom line of sports center and losing my shit. ESPN showed it a week later.
February 24 and February 25 1989. These were the days that boxing ruled. Fights were on regularly. I enjoyed the low leveled fights as well. It is all about the matchups. There are many who will never be hall of famers but they can have decent careers. They should not be forgotten disregarded or overlooked.AntonioMartin wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 18:44You all needed to live in Puerto Rico pre-cable Pay Per View days! No closed circuit there, every fight was free on TV!Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 05:49 I remember seeing the result on the bottom line of sports center and losing my shit. ESPN showed it a week later.
I saw this one and Tyson-Bruno I free.....both awesome fights! But Duran-Barkley a bit better than Tyson-Bruno!
Yeah, this wasn't on here in any capacity. The ESPN replay was like a Chinese broadcast with the ESPN guys commentating. Closed circuit was awesome.AntonioMartin wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 18:44You all needed to live in Puerto Rico pre-cable Pay Per View days! No closed circuit there, every fight was free on TV!Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 05:49 I remember seeing the result on the bottom line of sports center and losing my shit. ESPN showed it a week later.
I saw this one and Tyson-Bruno I free.....both awesome fights! But Duran-Barkley a bit better than Tyson-Bruno!
Wise words indeed. This is precisely how I feel.f read wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 19:58February 24 and February 25 1989. These were the days that boxing ruled. Fights were on regularly. I enjoyed the low leveled fights as well. It is all about the matchups. There are many who will never be hall of famers but they can have decent careers. They should not be forgotten disregarded or overlooked.AntonioMartin wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 18:44You all needed to live in Puerto Rico pre-cable Pay Per View days! No closed circuit there, every fight was free on TV!Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 05:49 I remember seeing the result on the bottom line of sports center and losing my shit. ESPN showed it a week later.
I saw this one and Tyson-Bruno I free.....both awesome fights! But Duran-Barkley a bit better than Tyson-Bruno!
Exactly!f read wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 19:58February 24 and February 25 1989. These were the days that boxing ruled. Fights were on regularly. I enjoyed the low leveled fights as well. It is all about the matchups. There are many who will never be hall of famers but they can have decent careers. They should not be forgotten disregarded or overlooked.AntonioMartin wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 18:44You all needed to live in Puerto Rico pre-cable Pay Per View days! No closed circuit there, every fight was free on TV!Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 05:49 I remember seeing the result on the bottom line of sports center and losing my shit. ESPN showed it a week later.
I saw this one and Tyson-Bruno I free.....both awesome fights! But Duran-Barkley a bit better than Tyson-Bruno!
Puerto Rico back in the day was like....from the 50's on, you could watch the top fights free on tv. Everything that came through the tube, because the deal was, the bouts were so popular among us Puerto Ricans that the TV stations recouped the money they made from buying the rights to the fight by way of advertisements....everyone from airlines to sodas, soaps, alcohol brands etc wanted to be, and gladly paid to be, advertised on Puerto Rican TV during those fights, the advertisers would recoup their money the weekend after the fight by having us the customers who had seen the bouts buy their items and make reservations on their companies, of course.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 20:23Yeah, this wasn't on here in any capacity. The ESPN replay was like a Chinese broadcast with the ESPN guys commentating. Closed circuit was awesome.AntonioMartin wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 18:44You all needed to live in Puerto Rico pre-cable Pay Per View days! No closed circuit there, every fight was free on TV!Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 05:49 I remember seeing the result on the bottom line of sports center and losing my shit. ESPN showed it a week later.
I saw this one and Tyson-Bruno I free.....both awesome fights! But Duran-Barkley a bit better than Tyson-Bruno!
WAPA and Telemundo also signed contracts with Bob Arum at the same era.AntonioAntonioMartin wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 04:02Puerto Rico back in the day was like....from the 50's on, you could watch the top fights free on tv. Everything that came through the tube, because the deal was, the bouts were so popular among us Puerto Ricans that the TV stations recouped the money they made from buying the rights to the fight by way of advertisements....everyone from airlines to sodas, soaps, alcohol brands etc wanted to be, and gladly paid to be, advertised on Puerto Rican TV during those fights, the advertisers would recoup their money the weekend after the fight by having us the customers who had seen the bouts buy their items and make reservations on their companies, of course.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 20:23Yeah, this wasn't on here in any capacity. The ESPN replay was like a Chinese broadcast with the ESPN guys commentating. Closed circuit was awesome.AntonioMartin wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 18:44
You all needed to live in Puerto Rico pre-cable Pay Per View days! No closed circuit there, every fight was free on TV!
I saw this one and Tyson-Bruno I free.....both awesome fights! But Duran-Barkley a bit better than Tyson-Bruno!
One of the first TV boxing heroes we had in the island was the Cuban Kid Gavilan, whose fight with Bobo Olson was the first to be televised on Telemundo. From there on we were hooked.
And television channels worked with sponsors to bring all the bouts free to us. Im talking Floyd Patterson, then Liston, Ali, Ruben Olivares, Monzon, Duran, Ali and Frazier, Benitez, Gomez, Arguello, then Leonard-Hearns, Hagler, Pryor-Arguello, Salvador Sanchez, Chapo Rosario Ray Mancini, Julio Cesar Chavez., Evander Holyfield all the way to Hector Camacho and Tyson-Douglas...40 years of showing free boxing on TV and not just when Puerto Ricans fought...nooo.....we saw each of Salvador Sanchez's bouts after Nicky Perez starting with the Wilfredo Gomez one; we saw every defense by Larry Holmes AND his title win against Ken Norton, we saw Azumah Nelson-Pat Cowdell, we saw fights live from Puerto Rico, the US, England, Argentina, Mexico, Chile and every country that had a boxing show all those shows were fed into our main channels, except for the ones given by ESPN and Galavision which did not sell the fights to the Puerto Rican channels but showed them on Puerto Rico's cable systems of the time anyways.
In 1980, Don King made a deal with WAPA-TV which gave WAPA rights to his bouts. By 1983, King had also signed a deal with WAPA's main rival Telemundo which gave Telemundo some of Don King's fights and WAPA the others. Its funny but around 1981, King himself featured on WAPA's boxing fight ads, King saying "WAPA-TV, Primera en boxeo!" in Spanish with a bad American accent..lol (WAPA-TV, "first in boxing"!)
The only caveat was that we could not watch world title fights staged in Puerto Rico live on TV....those we had to listen to on the radio, but then we could watch three days later on the Puerto Rican channels. They were recorded and we knew the result when we saw them but we still enjoyed getting together to watch them!
That leads me to the Roberto Duran-Iran Barkley, Mike Tyson-Frank Bruno weekend. As you can imagine, having seen so many of Duran's fights (I remember off the top of my head Buchanan, Thompson, Lampkin, De Jesus I, II and III, Palomino, Leonard I and II and later, III, Gonzalez, Minchillo, Benitez, Laing, Cuevas, Moore, Hagler, Hearns, Sims and Claudio televised free on Puerto Rico's TV before the Barkley bout) and having seen Barkley's beating of Olajide and Hearns they both had huge followings specially Duran who was and is a sort of national hero from another nation to Puerto Ricans (this can also be said of Monzon, Kid Pambele, Julio Cesar Chavez, Oscar De La Hoya and even Sal Sanchez because their bouts versus Puerto Ricans notwithstanding, we still saw them as Latinos as well who in a secondary way, also represented us when they fought non-Latinos) anyways, Mike Tyson also being very well known as we had seen every fight of his since Jesse Ferguson live and free, and we had seen each of Frank Bruno's since the humbling loss to James Smith so we knew who all these boxers were.
So I watched Duran versus Barkley, Michael Carbajal versus the future world champion Will Grigsby in one of the most attractive four rounders in history (two world champs in a four rounder!!) and Andrew Maynard fight that night and then Tyson and Bruno the next day.
I have to say WOW, WOW, WOW about the two main events of those two nights..two really great all time fights...when in today's age do you see that??
You know the funny thing about that bout is I had just moved to a town Humacao where the cable company still was not established and so I totally missed that bout! I remember reading about it the day after and being disappointed about Curet's loss, and then reading about it on KO Magazine's "round by round" feature and feeling like "well, he shouldnt have cheated"..;lol...but yeah I totally missed that card by way of moving to a town without cable-tv!!f read wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 05:28AntonioAntonioMartin wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 04:02Puerto Rico back in the day was like....from the 50's on, you could watch the top fights free on tv. Everything that came through the tube, because the deal was, the bouts were so popular among us Puerto Ricans that the TV stations recouped the money they made from buying the rights to the fight by way of advertisements....everyone from airlines to sodas, soaps, alcohol brands etc wanted to be, and gladly paid to be, advertised on Puerto Rican TV during those fights, the advertisers would recoup their money the weekend after the fight by having us the customers who had seen the bouts buy their items and make reservations on their companies, of course.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2021, 20:23
Yeah, this wasn't on here in any capacity. The ESPN replay was like a Chinese broadcast with the ESPN guys commentating. Closed circuit was awesome.
One of the first TV boxing heroes we had in the island was the Cuban Kid Gavilan, whose fight with Bobo Olson was the first to be televised on Telemundo. From there on we were hooked.
And television channels worked with sponsors to bring all the bouts free to us. Im talking Floyd Patterson, then Liston, Ali, Ruben Olivares, Monzon, Duran, Ali and Frazier, Benitez, Gomez, Arguello, then Leonard-Hearns, Hagler, Pryor-Arguello, Salvador Sanchez, Chapo Rosario Ray Mancini, Julio Cesar Chavez., Evander Holyfield all the way to Hector Camacho and Tyson-Douglas...40 years of showing free boxing on TV and not just when Puerto Ricans fought...nooo.....we saw each of Salvador Sanchez's bouts after Nicky Perez starting with the Wilfredo Gomez one; we saw every defense by Larry Holmes AND his title win against Ken Norton, we saw Azumah Nelson-Pat Cowdell, we saw fights live from Puerto Rico, the US, England, Argentina, Mexico, Chile and every country that had a boxing show all those shows were fed into our main channels, except for the ones given by ESPN and Galavision which did not sell the fights to the Puerto Rican channels but showed them on Puerto Rico's cable systems of the time anyways.
In 1980, Don King made a deal with WAPA-TV which gave WAPA rights to his bouts. By 1983, King had also signed a deal with WAPA's main rival Telemundo which gave Telemundo some of Don King's fights and WAPA the others. Its funny but around 1981, King himself featured on WAPA's boxing fight ads, King saying "WAPA-TV, Primera en boxeo!" in Spanish with a bad American accent..lol (WAPA-TV, "first in boxing"!)
The only caveat was that we could not watch world title fights staged in Puerto Rico live on TV....those we had to listen to on the radio, but then we could watch three days later on the Puerto Rican channels. They were recorded and we knew the result when we saw them but we still enjoyed getting together to watch them!
That leads me to the Roberto Duran-Iran Barkley, Mike Tyson-Frank Bruno weekend. As you can imagine, having seen so many of Duran's fights (I remember off the top of my head Buchanan, Thompson, Lampkin, De Jesus I, II and III, Palomino, Leonard I and II and later, III, Gonzalez, Minchillo, Benitez, Laing, Cuevas, Moore, Hagler, Hearns, Sims and Claudio televised free on Puerto Rico's TV before the Barkley bout) and having seen Barkley's beating of Olajide and Hearns they both had huge followings specially Duran who was and is a sort of national hero from another nation to Puerto Ricans (this can also be said of Monzon, Kid Pambele, Julio Cesar Chavez, Oscar De La Hoya and even Sal Sanchez because their bouts versus Puerto Ricans notwithstanding, we still saw them as Latinos as well who in a secondary way, also represented us when they fought non-Latinos) anyways, Mike Tyson also being very well known as we had seen every fight of his since Jesse Ferguson live and free, and we had seen each of Frank Bruno's since the humbling loss to James Smith so we knew who all these boxers were.
So I watched Duran versus Barkley, Michael Carbajal versus the future world champion Will Grigsby in one of the most attractive four rounders in history (two world champs in a four rounder!!) and Andrew Maynard fight that night and then Tyson and Bruno the next day.
I have to say WOW, WOW, WOW about the two main events of those two nights..two really great all time fights...when in today's age do you see that??
Did you ever see the Robbie Sims-Iran Barkley fight? This was on ESPN on January 6 1984 at Resorts Atlantic City NJ. In fact it was on the Kenny Bogner-Edwin Curet undercard. The Bogner-Curet fight ended with controversy. Curet stopped Kenny in the 9th round on an eye cut. However he butted him hard at the end of Round 8. The referee Vinny Rainone did not see the butt and thought and called it a shoulder butt at the time. The Bogner camp protested and on Tuesday January 10 a hearing was held in Trenton NJ and the decision was overturned. The official ruling was now Bogner the winner by a technical stoppage. The New Jersey said that if a cut happened before the 6th round the fight was automatically a technical draw. The fight went to the scorecards and Bogner was ahead on all 3 so he was declared the winner. Goody and Pat Petronelli the Curet handlers were furious and irate. They were not invited to the hearing and felt cheated. They had their lawyer write a letter to no avail. Sorry to get away with this story. The Sims-Barkley fight was a classic. This was early Barkley but even in defeat you seen that he was something special and an up and comer who in years to come would be a force to be reckoned with. The fight was a candidate for fight of the year and this was in early January no less.
Truly one for the ages. Being from Puerto Rico i am sure you remember Edwin Curet well. He was a fringe contender who fought many of the top prospects of the 1980s. Yes a great time and era in the annals and history of the sport we love.AntonioMartin wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 06:00You know the funny thing about that bout is I had just moved to a town Humacao where the cable company still was not established and so I totally missed that bout! I remember reading about it the day after and being disappointed about Curet's loss, and then reading about it on KO Magazine's "round by round" feature and feeling like "well, he shouldnt have cheated"..;lol...but yeah I totally missed that card by way of moving toa town without cable-tv!!f read wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 05:28AntonioAntonioMartin wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 04:02
Puerto Rico back in the day was like....from the 50's on, you could watch the top fights free on tv. Everything that came through the tube, because the deal was, the bouts were so popular among us Puerto Ricans that the TV stations recouped the money they made from buying the rights to the fight by way of advertisements....everyone from airlines to sodas, soaps, alcohol brands etc wanted to be, and gladly paid to be, advertised on Puerto Rican TV during those fights, the advertisers would recoup their money the weekend after the fight by having us the customers who had seen the bouts buy their items and make reservations on their companies, of course.
One of the first TV boxing heroes we had in the island was the Cuban Kid Gavilan, whose fight with Bobo Olson was the first to be televised on Telemundo. From there on we were hooked.
And television channels worked with sponsors to bring all the bouts free to us. Im talking Floyd Patterson, then Liston, Ali, Ruben Olivares, Monzon, Duran, Ali and Frazier, Benitez, Gomez, Arguello, then Leonard-Hearns, Hagler, Pryor-Arguello, Salvador Sanchez, Chapo Rosario Ray Mancini, Julio Cesar Chavez., Evander Holyfield all the way to Hector Camacho and Tyson-Douglas...40 years of showing free boxing on TV and not just when Puerto Ricans fought...nooo.....we saw each of Salvador Sanchez's bouts after Nicky Perez starting with the Wilfredo Gomez one; we saw every defense by Larry Holmes AND his title win against Ken Norton, we saw Azumah Nelson-Pat Cowdell, we saw fights live from Puerto Rico, the US, England, Argentina, Mexico, Chile and every country that had a boxing show all those shows were fed into our main channels, except for the ones given by ESPN and Galavision which did not sell the fights to the Puerto Rican channels but showed them on Puerto Rico's cable systems of the time anyways.
In 1980, Don King made a deal with WAPA-TV which gave WAPA rights to his bouts. By 1983, King had also signed a deal with WAPA's main rival Telemundo which gave Telemundo some of Don King's fights and WAPA the others. Its funny but around 1981, King himself featured on WAPA's boxing fight ads, King saying "WAPA-TV, Primera en boxeo!" in Spanish with a bad American accent..lol (WAPA-TV, "first in boxing"!)
The only caveat was that we could not watch world title fights staged in Puerto Rico live on TV....those we had to listen to on the radio, but then we could watch three days later on the Puerto Rican channels. They were recorded and we knew the result when we saw them but we still enjoyed getting together to watch them!
That leads me to the Roberto Duran-Iran Barkley, Mike Tyson-Frank Bruno weekend. As you can imagine, having seen so many of Duran's fights (I remember off the top of my head Buchanan, Thompson, Lampkin, De Jesus I, II and III, Palomino, Leonard I and II and later, III, Gonzalez, Minchillo, Benitez, Laing, Cuevas, Moore, Hagler, Hearns, Sims and Claudio televised free on Puerto Rico's TV before the Barkley bout) and having seen Barkley's beating of Olajide and Hearns they both had huge followings specially Duran who was and is a sort of national hero from another nation to Puerto Ricans (this can also be said of Monzon, Kid Pambele, Julio Cesar Chavez, Oscar De La Hoya and even Sal Sanchez because their bouts versus Puerto Ricans notwithstanding, we still saw them as Latinos as well who in a secondary way, also represented us when they fought non-Latinos) anyways, Mike Tyson also being very well known as we had seen every fight of his since Jesse Ferguson live and free, and we had seen each of Frank Bruno's since the humbling loss to James Smith so we knew who all these boxers were.
So I watched Duran versus Barkley, Michael Carbajal versus the future world champion Will Grigsby in one of the most attractive four rounders in history (two world champs in a four rounder!!) and Andrew Maynard fight that night and then Tyson and Bruno the next day.
I have to say WOW, WOW, WOW about the two main events of those two nights..two really great all time fights...when in today's age do you see that??
Did you ever see the Robbie Sims-Iran Barkley fight? This was on ESPN on January 6 1984 at Resorts Atlantic City NJ. In fact it was on the Kenny Bogner-Edwin Curet undercard. The Bogner-Curet fight ended with controversy. Curet stopped Kenny in the 9th round on an eye cut. However he butted him hard at the end of Round 8. The referee Vinny Rainone did not see the butt and thought and called it a shoulder butt at the time. The Bogner camp protested and on Tuesday January 10 a hearing was held in Trenton NJ and the decision was overturned. The official ruling was now Bogner the winner by a technical stoppage. The New Jersey said that if a cut happened before the 6th round the fight was automatically a technical draw. The fight went to the scorecards and Bogner was ahead on all 3 so he was declared the winner. Goody and Pat Petronelli the Curet handlers were furious and irate. They were not invited to the hearing and felt cheated. They had their lawyer write a letter to no avail. Sorry to get away with this story. The Sims-Barkley fight was a classic. This was early Barkley but even in defeat you seen that he was something special and an up and comer who in years to come would be a force to be reckoned with. The fight was a candidate for fight of the year and this was in early January no less.
I remember his fight with Livingstone Bramble! I saw it on Canal 18, a low budget channel that...of course, had boxing but only the lower budget fights Telemundo or WAPA did not want..f read wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 06:06Truly one for the ages. Being from Puerto Rico i am sure you remember Edwin Curet well. He was a fringe contender who fought many of the top prospects of the 1980s. Yes a great time and era in the annals and history of the sport we love.AntonioMartin wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 06:00You know the funny thing about that bout is I had just moved to a town Humacao where the cable company still was not established and so I totally missed that bout! I remember reading about it the day after and being disappointed about Curet's loss, and then reading about it on KO Magazine's "round by round" feature and feeling like "well, he shouldnt have cheated"..;lol...but yeah I totally missed that card by way of moving toa town without cable-tv!!f read wrote: ↑25 Feb 2021, 05:28
Antonio
Did you ever see the Robbie Sims-Iran Barkley fight? This was on ESPN on January 6 1984 at Resorts Atlantic City NJ. In fact it was on the Kenny Bogner-Edwin Curet undercard. The Bogner-Curet fight ended with controversy. Curet stopped Kenny in the 9th round on an eye cut. However he butted him hard at the end of Round 8. The referee Vinny Rainone did not see the butt and thought and called it a shoulder butt at the time. The Bogner camp protested and on Tuesday January 10 a hearing was held in Trenton NJ and the decision was overturned. The official ruling was now Bogner the winner by a technical stoppage. The New Jersey said that if a cut happened before the 6th round the fight was automatically a technical draw. The fight went to the scorecards and Bogner was ahead on all 3 so he was declared the winner. Goody and Pat Petronelli the Curet handlers were furious and irate. They were not invited to the hearing and felt cheated. They had their lawyer write a letter to no avail. Sorry to get away with this story. The Sims-Barkley fight was a classic. This was early Barkley but even in defeat you seen that he was something special and an up and comer who in years to come would be a force to be reckoned with. The fight was a candidate for fight of the year and this was in early January no less.
He was good but not in Bramble's level..