In my opinion, Canelo rarely uses his jab. I appreciate he has one, and a good one - I believe it was on display against Chavez Jr and earlier in his career but it is by no means his weapon of choice. I believe this is rare amongst the elite. Who are the other elite fighters, throughout history, that rarely used a jab?
Roy Jones Jr comes to mind.
Mike Tyson perhaps...I remember him jabbing away occasionally though, more so than Canelo I believe.
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 19:15
by Jeff_lacy_ko
I guess depends on definition of elite - hof level fighters?
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 19:17
by lazboy
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 19:15
I guess depends on definition of elite - hof level fighters?
Yea I was thinking that....I think it's safe to call Canelo elite (in my opinion).
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 19:36
by margaret thatcher
donaire used it earlier in his career but then basically became a guy who would fight throwing one power punch at a time, usually looking for counter left hooks
juan carlos ramirez is a unified champ atm, certainly elite at 140 for now, but doesnt do much as far as jabs go, just comes in with power shot combos
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 19:42
by lazboy
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 19:36
donaire used it earlier in his career but then basically became a guy who would fight throwing one power punch at a time, usually looking for counter left hooks
juan carlos ramirez is a unified champ atm, certainly elite at 140 for now, but doesnt do much as far as jabs go, just comes in with power shot combos
Good calls. Happy to include the current top dogs like Ramirez.
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 19:43
by margaret thatcher
often azumah nelson, many fights would charge in and lead with hooks or right cross. his fight vs wilfredo gomez is a notable exception , you can see what i mean if you check him out vs jim mcdonnel and sanchez though
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 19:47
by lazboy
Good call, could probably add his rival fenech to that. A high energy mauler, don’t recall him using a jab often.
Edit: might be wrong about that...just watched some highlights.
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 19:50
by margaret thatcher
highlights always flatter
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 19:50
by margaret thatcher
nigel benn (obviously not an outright great though)
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 19:56
by margaret thatcher
marciano
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 19:59
by lazboy
He’s certainty an elite slugger. If we include him we should include Dwight Qawi.
Still...I think it’s unique, to be a high level fighter and use a jab sparingly.
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 20:49
by margaret thatcher
jesse vargas, loves to lead with that missile of a cross
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 21:52
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Did tito jab much? Vitali is in the hall... he didnt use a jab much if im remembering correctly
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 02 Mar 2021, 21:59
by lazboy
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 21:52
Did tito jab much? Vitali is in the hall... he didnt use a jab much if im remembering correctly
Tito loved a left hook and power shots but I remember him jabbing also. Vitali jabbed often from my recollection... Not a jab like Wladimir, far less refined but technically a jab.
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 21:52
Did tito jab much? Vitali is in the hall... he didnt use a jab much if im remembering correctly
Tito loved a left hook and power shots but I remember him jabbing also. Vitali jabbed often from my recollection... Not a jab like Wladimir, far less refined but technically a jab.
Not 100% sure though, relying on memory.
He threw a ton against kevin Johnson but i thought that was an anomaly?? I might be remembering wrong
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 21:52
Did tito jab much? Vitali is in the hall... he didnt use a jab much if im remembering correctly
Tito loved a left hook and power shots but I remember him jabbing also. Vitali jabbed often from my recollection... Not a jab like Wladimir, far less refined but technically a jab.
Not 100% sure though, relying on memory.
He threw a ton against kevin Johnson but i thought that was an anomaly?? I might be remembering wrong
Its hard to think of any hof that didnt jab well
Thought he landed heaps against corrie sanders too.
Yea it’s hard to think of many...Canelo might be a game changer.
Tito loved a left hook and power shots but I remember him jabbing also. Vitali jabbed often from my recollection... Not a jab like Wladimir, far less refined but technically a jab.
Not 100% sure though, relying on memory.
He threw a ton against kevin Johnson but i thought that was an anomaly?? I might be remembering wrong
Its hard to think of any hof that didnt jab well
Thought he landed heaps against corrie sanders too.
Yea it’s hard to think of many...Canelo might be a game changer.
...
really thought for a moment i would never be able to stop laughing.
canelo definitely developed into an excellent fighter (who LOST TO GOLOVKIN. BACK 2 BACK) but you guys are really taking it to far...'gamechanger' cause 'he doesn't jab'...
get a grip!
Re: Elite Fighters who don't jab
Posted: 03 Mar 2021, 06:43
by adislav123
will be exciting to see how the mexican messiah who changed the boxing game by 'not jabbing' comes up with a plan to even legit win a single round versus saunders.
but i guess the revolutionary style of walking up to your foe and smash in one of those terryfing ground leveling monsters of a body shot will certainly do the trick.
they will definitely turn at least 2 of 3 scorecards in ALMIGHTY canelo's favour despite what transpires in that ring in REALITY.
thats for sure.
Re: Elite Fighters who don't rely on a jab
Posted: 03 Mar 2021, 07:49
by danconnollyeire
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 21:52
Did tito jab much? Vitali is in the hall... he didnt use a jab much if im remembering correctly
Vitali jabbed constantly. He threw 5at a time vs Lewis
Tito loved a left hook and power shots but I remember him jabbing also. Vitali jabbed often from my recollection... Not a jab like Wladimir, far less refined but technically a jab.
Not 100% sure though, relying on memory.
He threw a ton against kevin Johnson but i thought that was an anomaly?? I might be remembering wrong
Its hard to think of any hof that didnt jab well
Thought he landed heaps against corrie sanders too.
Yea it’s hard to think of many...Canelo might be a game changer.
Vit won the WBO title with a jab-left nipple combo.
