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I'd like to know guys' selections for the top 5 p4p fighters of the 70's. If possible, please list your choices in order.

Off the top of my head and in no particular order:

Roberto Duran
Carlos Monzon
Ruben Olivares
Wilfredo Gomez (EDITED)
Carlos Zarate

I'm sure I'm missing some folks as like I said, first thing off the top of my head.

1. Roberto Duran (Panama)
2. Carlos Monzon (Argentina)
3. Muhammad Ali (USA)
4. Alexis Arguello (Nicaragua)
5. Wilfredo Gomez (Puerto Rico)

1. Roberto Duran- by far he is a top 10 pound for pound of all time in any era.
2 Wilfredo Gomez-The Mighty Bazooka deadly greatest 122 pounder of all time
3 Carlos Monzon-Had 14 title defenses at middleweight really made his mark
4 Alexis Arguello-greatest era for The Explosive Thin Man
5 Carlos Zarate-one of Mexicos finest

Bob Foster and Jose Napoles are up there too

dr_devious wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 16:50 Bob Foster and Jose Napoles are up there too

No way.

Why not? They are both all time greats in their divisions and were at their peaks in the early 70s

dr_devious wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 16:57 Why not? They are both all time greats in their divisions and were at their peaks in the early 70s

They'd be far down my list of best P4P'ers of the seventies.

Leonard beat better fighters than Gomez. Hagler was in his prime.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 17:16 Leonard beat better fighters than Gomez. Hagler was in his prime.

Sugar Ray only beat Wilfred Benitez in the 70s.

How did he beat better fighters than Wilfredo Gomez?

elmersalsa wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 01:50

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 17:16 Leonard beat better fighters than Gomez. Hagler was in his prime.

Sugar Ray only beat Wilfred Benitez in the 70s.

How did he beat better fighters than Wilfredo Gomez?

1. Ali
2. Duran
3. Monzon
4. Zarate
5. Foster

oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 16:51

dr_devious wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 16:50 Bob Foster and Jose Napoles are up there too

No way.

Napoles? No way?

I would personally have Napoles top five for sure.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 07:36

elmersalsa wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 01:50

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 17:16 Leonard beat better fighters than Gomez. Hagler was in his prime.

Sugar Ray only beat Wilfred Benitez in the 70s.

How did he beat better fighters than Wilfredo Gomez?

And what is funny?

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 09:34

oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 16:51

dr_devious wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 16:50 Bob Foster and Jose Napoles are up there too

No way.

Napoles? No way?

I would personally have Napoles top five for sure.

Definitely over the likes of Gomez or foster. Benitez is worth a look.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 12:23

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 09:34

oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 16:51

No way.

Napoles? No way?

I would personally have Napoles top five for sure.

Definitely over the likes of Gomez or foster. Benitez is worth a look.

Yeah, there's no case for Gomez over his career to be better than Napoles and especially not specifically in the 70's (and I LOVE Bazooka). Benitez is a good shout, but like Gomez one of those guys he scored a lot of his best wins in the early part of the 80's (like Arguello too) so it gets tough to place them.

I would say something like Duran, Ali, Monzon, Napoles, Arguello as the top five and then it's the likes of Gomez, Zarate, Benitez as the best of the rest. Hagler did a ton too, and I doubt there was more than 2-3 better than him but his biggest achievements were of course in the 1980's.

I guess what I'm saying is benitez clearly rates over Gomez(I loved him too) who seems to be on every list and Wilfred on none.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 12:48 I guess what I'm saying is benitez clearly rates over Gomez(I loved him too) who seems to be on every list and Wilfred on none.

Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez was better in my view. Ten title defenses, all by knockout. He never lost in the 70s decade.

The demolition of the great Carlos Zarate in San Juan trumps everything that Wilfred Benitez did in the decade.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 15:38

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 12:48 I guess what I'm saying is benitez clearly rates over Gomez(I loved him too) who seems to be on every list and Wilfred on none.

Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez was better in my view. Ten title defenses, all by knockout. He never lost in the 70s decade.

The demolition of the great Carlos Zarate in San Juan trumps everything that Wilfred Benitez did in the decade.

Ahh, the title defenses matter here. A 17yr old beating the great Antonio Cervantes is among the top wins in history, much less the 70's.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 15:45

elmersalsa wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 15:38

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 12:48 I guess what I'm saying is benitez clearly rates over Gomez(I loved him too) who seems to be on every list and Wilfred on none.

Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez was better in my view. Ten title defenses, all by knockout. He never lost in the 70s decade.

The demolition of the great Carlos Zarate in San Juan trumps everything that Wilfred Benitez did in the decade.

Ahh, the title defenses matter here. A 17yr old beating the great Antonio Cervantes is among the top wins in history, much less the 70's.

It was not just a title defense. It was one of the greatest explosive matchups between two KO artists that were UNDEFEATED at the time with both fighters amount of KOs close to 90 or 80? Something like that.

It was one of the super fights of the lower weights at the time.

You're so inconsistent you can't even keep up with yourself. Zarate was a great win, you listed 10 defenses like that matters. It was a new division and far from loaded.

Miguel Canto should be considered too.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 19:06

You're so inconsistent you can't even keep up with yourself. Zarate was a great win, you listed 10 defenses like that matters. It was a new division and far from loaded.

The 10 defenses were by knockout. Later in the 80s, or I think it was on the Carlos Mendoza fight in '79, he broke the all-time record of most consecutive title defenses won by knockout and also the most consecutive world title fights won by knockout. Both records held by the great Roberto Duran at the time.

The Zarate knockout win was one of the greatest wins of the decade. He should have been The Ring Fighter of the Year for 1978, but the Ring made a big mistake, I believe, (and that is only my opinion) to give the award to Muhammad Ali.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Mar 2021, 19:39

I don't know why are you laughing about those facts.