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What? No excuse from Harrison?

Posted: 31 Jan 2005, 15:32
by Bard of Boxrec
no excuse from harrison? No cold/chest infection/shingles/rabies? No 'I had overtrained, I wasn't myself in there'?

What can we make of this? What is wrong?

Posted: 31 Jan 2005, 16:05
by steve689
Yes it was strange all right...i was sure Maloney would say he won by a mile as well but he seemed genuinely concerned...what is going on? :o

Posted: 31 Jan 2005, 17:28
by The Hawk
I think they both knew it was just Polo's game was the problem. If a picture could tell a thousand words that night it was Frank Maloneys face :cry:

I still can't warm to Polo's style, but he done everything that there was to do to beat Scott Harrison and left with out the belt.

Styles make fights, Harrison may hang onto his belt a little longer, but his days are starting to become numbered. Medina and Polo have set the perfect blue print for the defeat of Harrison.

Posted: 01 Feb 2005, 03:58
by nickd
I still fancy Harrison would beat Brodie or Chi, their styles are made for him. Brodie could outbox him no doubt but always gets involved at some point.

Posted: 01 Feb 2005, 04:12
by steve richards
I would worry about putting Harrison in with anyone who has a decent jab, they will pick him off all night, I'd give him a chance with CHi only because Chi likes a scrap and that's what Harrison is good at, Barrera Morales, Marquez would murder scott just on boxing skill, they should put him in with Tapia. Maloney said we need to go back to the drawing board, bit fuckin late for that i think, They know Harrisons level now, if they keep him in with brawlers he clock up as many defences as Calzaghe.

Posted: 01 Feb 2005, 05:46
by steve richards
Maloney has come up with an excuse, as we've all been waiting for.

Taken fron fw.tv
Frank Maloney tonight blamed the immense pressure Scott Harrison is under every time he fights for the lacklustre display he put in against Victor Polo on Friday night.

Harrison had entered the fight close to a fight with Marco Antonio Barrera – for much of it, he must have been planning a rematch with Polo after his WBO featherweight title appeared to be heading back to Colombia with the challenger.

Instead Harrison was let off the hook with a draw, and although he said he would give Polo a rematch, it is unlikely he will be risked as an opponent again.

Whoever is in the opposite corner, manager Maloney said he would be the only one Harrison would be focusing on.

“I think Friday showed the kind of pressure Scott has been under with the talk of Barrera in his next fight, and he didn’t box as he should have done,” said Maloney.

For Harrison though – despite finishing the fight with his left eye closed – it was a satisfactory night’s work.

“I’m quite happy, I’ve still got my title,” he said, although he admitted he would be going home to study his performance on tape.

“I thought I won the fight. I’m happy I got a draw, I’ve still got my belt.”

If the general emotion emanating from the Scot’s dressing room was relief – Harrison didn’t look particularly confident of victory at the final bell – resignation pervaded team Polo.

The challenger, unmarked, spent some time signing autographs after the fight, but felt he should have legitimately been able to call himself a world champion as he scribed his signature for the fans.

Through an interpreter he said he felt he had won eight rounds, a view shared by at least one ringside journalist, but a claim that looked debatable.

Later his management team said he would carry on, but confessed it would be hard to get him another shot at Harrison.

Officers of the Strathclyde Police Force attended Polo’s hotel at around midnight, prompting one wag to observe that they were investigating an earlier robbery at the Braehead Arena.

If he had understood, Polo probably wouldn’t have been laughing – there was a hole right through the decision he thought he should have got.

Posted: 01 Feb 2005, 10:59
by steve689
There was an interesting angle shown at the end of the fight while the credits were rolling, as the draw was announced Maloney puffed his cheeks out and let out a huge sigh of relief and then started clapping. He knew Harrison had lost the fight deep down.

Posted: 01 Feb 2005, 11:05
by jamesmcdonnell
steve richards wrote:I would worry about putting Harrison in with anyone who has a decent jab, they will pick him off all night, I'd give him a chance with CHi only because Chi likes a scrap and that's what Harrison is good at, Barrera Morales, Marquez would murder scott just on boxing skill, they should put him in with Tapia. Maloney said we need to go back to the drawing board, bit fuckin late for that i think, They know Harrisons level now, if they keep him in with brawlers he clock up as many defences as Calzaghe.
Hmm, does it not occur to you that Chi might just overwhelm Harrison. After all, is Harrison a bigger puncher or physically more robust than Chi? I'm not convinced he is.

Chi took a hell of a shooing from Morales, who was by far a technically superior boxer than either man, and a banger too, yet he gave Morales a real tough fight in losing. He walked through Brodie in their second fight, and withstood a terrific barage from Brodie, who is technically a better boxer than Harrison, and has quicker hands, but who lacks a bit of strength at feather.

Whilst I think it would be a hell of a fight, unless Chi is a bit shot now, I would make him favourite, even though his style suits Harrison more, has Harrison beaten a featherweight as tough and dynamic as Chi? I cannot think of one.

It worries me that Harrison is so wide open to be hit, against someone with a real whirlwind attack I can envisage him getting hammered from pillar to post. It's a fight I'd like to see though.

Posted: 03 Feb 2005, 09:48
by Ally
I think it is a bit harsh on Harrison to imply that he is prone to invalid excuses. The only occasion where he cited illness appears to be validated by the vastly different performance in the rematch.

That said this fight was much harder than his camp expected.
Sadly due to amateur boxing commitments I was not able to see the fight and cannot comment first hand on how he did. I was able to listen to a commentary from frankwarrentv. The guys there seemed to disagree about the outcome of each and every round, often swapping their choice of who was winning each round. This gave me the impression that this was likely to be a hard fight to judge. (I do not judge pro bouts but I do judge at amateur events) Before I decide on how much this fight tells us about Harrison's ability I would need to have the following points dealt with.

1. His body fat percentage was "below 5%". Much below 5% and you are in the 'death zone' and this could be a factor in any sluggish performance. Was Harrison sluggish from the outset? If so low body-fat/dehydration could be a factor here.

2. How soon after getting cut did he lose vision in his left eye. Loss of vision has two very important effects, firstly you lose about 12% of your field of view and you are particularly vulnerable to (in this case) a southpaw jab. Secondly you completely lose your depth perception.

You can test this yourself by suspending a tennis ball on a length of string. Set the ball swinging turn your back on it. Turn back to face the ball and start punching it. Then set the ball swinging again, turn your back. This time when you turn round have one eye closed/covered and start punching. This should be a real eye opener (pardon the pun)

If Harrison lost his vision early he would be vulnerable to shots coming from his left and would have difficulty in finding his range.

If either or both can reasonably be seen as factors in this fight then Harrison may still have a shot at the big guns. If not he doesn't.

Posted: 03 Feb 2005, 10:00
by jamesmcdonnell
Harrison's eye close around the 7th or 8th round I think, but he was already getting tagged with the jab and straight left in the 2nd. I wanted Harrison to be a contender against the likes of Barrera, but I think the truth is that technically he is not good enough to compete at that level. His jab was non-existent, and he did little apart from throw lead left and right hooks.

And if he was in the death zone, then surely it signals that it's time he moved up in weight, because they were banging on about how great his new nutritionist and his training regime were. It may just be that Scott is too big for the weight, if he is having to kill himself so much just to come in under the limit, then what's the point.

A move to Super Featherweight though would put him in the line of fire against some really massive punchers.

I just sadly think that Harrison has found his level, and that stick and movers with good pedigrees will always give him murders.

Posted: 03 Feb 2005, 12:10
by lirva33
Taken fron fw.tv

Frank Maloney tonight blamed the death of Scott Harrison's dog for the lacklustre display he put in against Victor Polo on Friday night.

Harrison fought to a controversial draw against the crafty Columbian and looked anything but a winner after the contest.

Manager Maloney said that the real Scott Harrison didn't turn up on Friday night.

“I spoke to Scott on Thursday and noticed he wasn't acting himself. He seemed to be feeling down about something. He assured me he would be all right on Friday though and I thought nothing of it.” said Maloney.

However, after the turgid performance Harrison put up, Maloney asked his girlfriend if there was anything troubling Scott.

“His prized poodle Cordelia died on Monday,” she said. "And Scott has been heartbroken. The funeral was on Wednesday. We kept it private because we didn't want a big turn out".

Maloney suddenly felt a light bulb turning on in his head. This was why Harrison had been feeling down on the phone on Thursday night.

“Scott loved that poodle to death. He raised her ever since she was a little girl. She was like a daughter to him. When she died, he stopped training properly. He put on a brave face, but it was clearly eating him up inside.” said his girlfriend.

Harrison, who put up a brave display to get a draw against Polo, burst into tears when Maloney questioned him about the 23 pound poodle.

"He was very upset when I asked him about it. he loved that poodle to death. If the poodle never died, Scott would have won the fight", said Maloney.

Harrison was unavailable for comment last night.

Posted: 03 Feb 2005, 12:21
by Chris the fighter
Sh*t that most be the worst excuse yet. I'm sorry a world champion has to 100% ready if he was really so upset he should have pulled out of the fight. By publishing this Maloney has made his fighter a laughing stock.

Posted: 03 Feb 2005, 12:25
by J
my word that is bordering on "carry on" style.

i dont reckon scott will be too pleased that Frank has opened his mouth on that one though, first off a poodle is hardly the most macho of dogs is it, secondly it doesnt do much for his hard man image weeping over a passed away poodle, though i do sympthathise i was gutted when my dog died.

Posted: 03 Feb 2005, 12:40
by lirva33
J wrote:my word that is bordering on "carry on" style.

i dont reckon scott will be too pleased that Frank has opened his mouth on that one though, first off a poodle is hardly the most macho of dogs is it, secondly it doesnt do much for his hard man image weeping over a passed away poodle, though i do sympthathise i was gutted when my dog died.

:lol:

Posted: 03 Feb 2005, 13:56
by jamesmcdonnell
You've all been taken for a ride, it says nothing of the sort on their site.

I mean come on, can you imagine Scott Harrison having a poodle?

Posted: 03 Feb 2005, 14:50
by lirva33
jamesmcdonnell wrote:You've all been taken for a ride, it says nothing of the sort on their site.

I mean come on, can you imagine Scott Harrison having a poodle?
it was funny while it lasted!

:lol: :lol:

Posted: 03 Feb 2005, 16:11
by lirva33
lirva33 wrote:

Harrison, who put up a brave display to get a draw against Polo, burst into tears when Maloney questioned him about the 23 pound poodle.

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