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If you’ve shown you can beat them, let them join you?

Is he being serious?

Malik going to show him how to win 8 round fights without breaking a sweat

I wonder if Scott will continue to drop when punches miss him just to keep Deontay happy.

I think Scott will be a good trainer

emallini wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 11:14 I think Scott will be a good trainer

I do too. Also Wilder trusts him so that is a plus.
Curious how this turns out

tiny_acres wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 13:06

emallini wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 11:14 I think Scott will be a good trainer

I do too. Also Wilder trusts him so that is a plus.
Curious how this turns out

I think the division needs him back to be honest. I'm glad to see him on the rebuild.

joshj909 wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 10:08 I wonder if Scott will continue to drop when punches miss him just to keep Deontay happy.

lolol

tiny_acres wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 13:06

emallini wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 11:14 I think Scott will be a good trainer

I do too. Also Wilder trusts him so that is a plus.
Curious how this turns out

trusts him until wilder loses again and says he was a spy who drugged him

It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Deontay beat fraud Joshua. Why ridicule the guy? He stepped up and fought Fury, did princess Joshua do the same? Has Joshua even taken care of his dirty laundry with Andy Ruiz?

Deontay Wilder will never regain the heavyweight championship of the world.

His time has come and gone. And Tyson Fury has already exposed the blueprint that allows future 'Bronze Bomber' oppoonents to exploit Wilder's flaws.

We may as well consider Wilder as a gun-shy "has-been".

Vacant title

Wilder v ruiz

Youre taking ruiz?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 18:28 Deontay Wilder will never regain the heavyweight championship of the world.

His time has come and gone. And Tyson Fury has already exposed the blueprint that allows future 'Bronze Bomber' oppoonents to exploit Wilder's flaws.

We may as well consider Wilder as a gun-shy "has-been".

Wilder will not win another belt but most will not be able to do what Fury did. They'll have to find a different way.
Fury had a 40+ lb weight advantage and had already been in the ring with Wilder once, he knew he could survive the Wilder right hand
The only heavyweight that has been able to take the Wilder right hand is the one that outweighs him by 40+lbs(without being a fat slob). That's not a coincidence.
Wilder is frequently the lighter man in the ring but not by that much.
Anyone who does not have the Tyson Fury size advantage attempting to use the Tyson Fury strategy will likely run into the Wilder right hand.............at that moment they will realize they are not Tyson Fury.

As for Scott training Wilder:
That's a tough call imo. Wilder has always been a mediocre boxer who might KO his opponent at any moment.
I don't think Scott will change that.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 17:32 It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Deontay beat fraud Joshua. Why ridicule the guy? He stepped up and fought Fury, did princess Joshua do the same? Has Joshua even taken care of his dirty laundry with Andy Ruiz?

Joshua has beaten every top fighter that has had the guts to face him, with the obvious exception of Miller. Joshua is soon to face Fury for the last piece of the world title that he doesn't already have.

He isn't fighting Fury because he's an overweight food and drug addicted manic depressive, who he has identified as a pushover whose name will add credibility to a pitiful resume, he's fighting him because he's the biggest challenge out there and regarded by many as the best heavyweight in the world.

Why do I bother telling you this? Haters gonna hate. Is it because you're jealous of how appealing he is to the ladies?

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candyslim wrote: ↑16 May 2021, 10:17

H8Usernames wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 17:32 It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Deontay beat fraud Joshua. Why ridicule the guy? He stepped up and fought Fury, did princess Joshua do the same? Has Joshua even taken care of his dirty laundry with Andy Ruiz?

Joshua has beaten every top fighter that has had the guts to face him, with the obvious exception of Miller. Joshua is soon to face Fury for the last piece of the world title that he doesn't already have.

He isn't fighting Fury because he's an overweight food and drug addicted manic depressive, who he has identified as a pushover whose name will add credibility to a pitiful resume, he's fighting him because he's the biggest challenge out there and regarded by many as the best heavyweight in the world.

Why do I bother telling you this? Haters gonna hate. Is it because you're jealous of how appealing he is to the ladies?

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AJ avoided Fury and was praying that Wilder would beat him. AJ has unfinished business with Andy Ruiz. Wilder has fought anyone and everyone brave enough to fight him and would stand a 50% chance of beating AJ.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 19:22 Vacant title

Wilder v ruiz

Youre taking ruiz?

I’d pay to watch this one. Even if it was bridgerweight. That’s a banger of a fight.

joshua and fury will fight this year, aj already beat ruiz in a rematch


omg ruiz gotta get revenge over joe parker twice first

wilder cant fight anyone else until he beats fury twice

ortiz gotta avenge the wilder losses, which means getting 3 wins over wilder

whyte still 1-1 vs pov


who can joshua fight if everyone still needs to get a winning record vs a guy who beat them

there's no changing wilder at this stage, he's a wild crude guy with a hell of a punch. he's going on 36 and been a pro 13 years and almost 45 fights, and says he doesn't try to change

when fighters get to this stage the trainer because more important for motivation etc than teaching new things

H8Usernames wrote: ↑16 May 2021, 15:25

candyslim wrote: ↑16 May 2021, 10:17

H8Usernames wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 17:32 It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Deontay beat fraud Joshua. Why ridicule the guy? He stepped up and fought Fury, did princess Joshua do the same? Has Joshua even taken care of his dirty laundry with Andy Ruiz?

Joshua has beaten every top fighter that has had the guts to face him, with the obvious exception of Miller. Joshua is soon to face Fury for the last piece of the world title that he doesn't already have.

He isn't fighting Fury because he's an overweight food and drug addicted manic depressive, who he has identified as a pushover whose name will add credibility to a pitiful resume, he's fighting him because he's the biggest challenge out there and regarded by many as the best heavyweight in the world.

Why do I bother telling you this? Haters gonna hate. Is it because you're jealous of how appealing he is to the ladies?

.

AJ avoided Fury and was praying that Wilder would beat him. AJ has unfinished business with Andy Ruiz. Wilder has fought anyone and everyone brave enough to fight him and would stand a 50% chance of beating AJ.

Joshua didn't avoid Fury. Hearn made massive offers to both Wilder and Fury but they decided to fight each other instead, and in the words of Deontay Wilder "Freeze Joshua out". Has Joshua given you any reason to think he is not serious about fighting Fury this Summer? Any negativity about this fight actually happening, and there has been plenty, has been exclusively and conspicuously from team Fury. If Joshua didn't want to fight Fury why is this undisputed unification fight happening now - did he change his mind?

Joshua has always been about undisputed from the get go. He doesn't go in for mind games, he just gets on with business, what you see is what you get. Joshua's resume looks like a who's who of top heavyweights. You don't build a resume like that by avoiding tough opponents and if you weren't consumed by hatred for Joshua you might start judging these guys by what they do rather than what they boast about doing.

candyslim wrote: ↑16 May 2021, 17:05

H8Usernames wrote: ↑16 May 2021, 15:25

candyslim wrote: ↑16 May 2021, 10:17

Joshua has beaten every top fighter that has had the guts to face him, with the obvious exception of Miller. Joshua is soon to face Fury for the last piece of the world title that he doesn't already have.

He isn't fighting Fury because he's an overweight food and drug addicted manic depressive, who he has identified as a pushover whose name will add credibility to a pitiful resume, he's fighting him because he's the biggest challenge out there and regarded by many as the best heavyweight in the world.

Why do I bother telling you this? Haters gonna hate. Is it because you're jealous of how appealing he is to the ladies?

.

AJ avoided Fury and was praying that Wilder would beat him. AJ has unfinished business with Andy Ruiz. Wilder has fought anyone and everyone brave enough to fight him and would stand a 50% chance of beating AJ.

Joshua didn't avoid Fury. Hearn made massive offers to both Wilder and Fury but they decided to fight each other instead, and in the words of Deontay Wilder "Freeze Joshua out". Has Joshua given you any reason to think he is not serious about fighting Fury this Summer? Any negativity about this fight actually happening, and there has been plenty, has been exclusively and conspicuously from team Fury. If Joshua didn't want to fight Fury why is this undisputed unification fight happening now - did he change his mind?

Joshua has always been about undisputed from the get go. He doesn't go in for mind games, he just gets on with business, what you see is what you get. Joshua's resume looks like a who's who of top heavyweights. You don't build a resume like that by avoiding tough opponents and if you weren't consumed by hatred for Joshua you might start judging these guys by what they do rather than what they boast about doing.

Hearn made offers to Deontay but none to Fury. These offers were on the assumption that Joshua was some A++ side of the deal which he wasn't.

AJ didn't want this fight. After Fury beat Wilder twice decisively then AJ pretty much had no other choice than to either publicly admit Fury's supremacy over the HW division and his own status as a joke or to get it done.

But let's get back to the original question. Why mock Wilder? Is it because you're jealous of how appealing he is to the ladies?

Wilder is a warrior and a great fighter. Much greater than AJ who barely beat Wlad and lost to Ruiz. Lennox and even maybe Vitali would have beat that fellow.

Of course Joshua was the 'A' side. He is the money man who has raised purses across the division. Most if not all of his opponents had their career high payday against Joshua. The only reason he has agreed 50/50 this time despite holding 75 or 80% of the belts is that he desperately wants the fight.

Hearn claimed he made offers to both. I can't prove he made offers to Fury, but it is well documented that Wilder declined. If there were any truth in your claim that Joshua didn't want to fight Fury, it would have been because Fury had no belt to offer. Now that Fury has a belt, Joshua has switched focus. He's always been consistent, it's about being undisputed champion.

Does Wilder have a following of female admirers? I thought it was only boxing fans, and a proportion of US Sports fans, who even know who he is. Fury demonstrated that by asking Americans passing by in the street.

Wilder is not a great warrior, he will always take the path of least resistance. He had no intention of fighting Dillian Whyte never mind Klitschko. His best win is over a man with a heart condition who was cherry picked as being the best option in terms of risk/ reward on account of his impressive KO of fringe-contender Bryant Jennings. What else has Ortiz done, remind me?

The first Fury fight was another cherry pick. Wilder's resume consisted of fringe-contenders, mainly top 20 rather than top 10 in the world, and it was crying out for another respectable name. Who better than a former world champion, conqueror of the mighty Klitschko, who looked then like he hadn't moved from the couch in years? I was furious with Fury for taking the fight I thought he was nowhere near being ready. Of course if he had looked ready he'd never have been offered the fight.

The only fight Wilder ever had against an elite heavyweight in peak condition, was the Fury rematch, and Fury wiped the floor with him. The "Great Warrior" has been crying about it ever since.

Scott totally threw the fight with his buddy deontay

Embarrassing stuff

I should just make clear that what I said above about Wilder's status as a warrior refers to his behaviour outside the ring, his empty boasting, his avoiding challenges, his unambitious resume.

Nobody could reasonably criticise his courage, his toughness, and his fighting spirit when he's in there fighting. In that sense he is very much the warrior.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑16 May 2021, 17:36

candyslim wrote: ↑16 May 2021, 17:05

H8Usernames wrote: ↑16 May 2021, 15:25

AJ avoided Fury and was praying that Wilder would beat him. AJ has unfinished business with Andy Ruiz. Wilder has fought anyone and everyone brave enough to fight him and would stand a 50% chance of beating AJ.

Joshua didn't avoid Fury. Hearn made massive offers to both Wilder and Fury but they decided to fight each other instead, and in the words of Deontay Wilder "Freeze Joshua out". Has Joshua given you any reason to think he is not serious about fighting Fury this Summer? Any negativity about this fight actually happening, and there has been plenty, has been exclusively and conspicuously from team Fury. If Joshua didn't want to fight Fury why is this undisputed unification fight happening now - did he change his mind?

Joshua has always been about undisputed from the get go. He doesn't go in for mind games, he just gets on with business, what you see is what you get. Joshua's resume looks like a who's who of top heavyweights. You don't build a resume like that by avoiding tough opponents and if you weren't consumed by hatred for Joshua you might start judging these guys by what they do rather than what they boast about doing.

Hearn made offers to Deontay but none to Fury. These offers were on the assumption that Joshua was some A++ side of the deal which he wasn't.

AJ didn't want this fight. After Fury beat Wilder twice decisively then AJ pretty much had no other choice than to either publicly admit Fury's supremacy over the HW division and his own status as a joke or to get it done.

But let's get back to the original question. Why mock Wilder? Is it because you're jealous of how appealing he is to the ladies?

Wilder is a warrior and a great fighter. Much greater than AJ who barely beat Wlad and lost to Ruiz. Lennox and even maybe Vitali would have beat that fellow.

Hearn couldn't submit offers to Tyson Fury until his immediate rematch clause with Wilder had expired.

Fury has been tied to facing Wilder between mid-2019 until December 2020.

emallini wrote: ↑15 May 2021, 11:14 I think Scott will be a good trainer

For what it's worth, he always comes across as a student of the sport.