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Charlo: $10M Tszyu Fight Not Happening - 'He's Not On Level To Fight Guys I've Knocked The F--- Out'

Super welterweight prospect Tim Tszyu is one of boxing’s most promising upstarts.

If you ask the 154-pound WBC, WBA and IBF champion Jermell Charlo, the 26-year-old Tszyu (18-0, 14 KOs) is not even within sniffing distance of fighting him, even after the fighter’s promoter George Rose of No Limit Boxing said he’d be willing to spend $10 million for a potential Charlo bout.

On a video filmed on May 19 during his birthday, the 31-year-old Charlo (34-1, 18 KOs) was as feisty as ever while discussing a potential fight in Australia against Tszyu.

“Nobody ever sent me no $10 million contract or none of that. First off, Tim [sic] Kostya Tszyu is not even on a level to even fight for a world title. He's not even on the level to fight some of the guys I've knocked the f--- out of. He ain't even going to have a chance to fight me probably throughout my career. I'm just being honest,” Charlo said on his YouTube channel "Ringside With The Lions" while resting in a .

“$10 million sounds great. Yes I would love to take that. But Tim. Sorry big homie. You aint getting a chance to fight Charlo because Charlo got some other plans. I'm the unified champ. I'm fend to be the undisputed champion. I'm going to bust my a-- to get to where I need to get to so I can get all of the belts so everybody can say, 'champ, you are the king’ … I’ve been training my ass off. I'm thankful to always fight and always bless my family with the gift that I have with these hands.”

Charlo is looking to claim undisputed status at 154 when he fights WBO champion Brian Castano ten days after Tszyu on July 17 on Showtime.

Tszyu, meanwhile, is looking to catapult himself as more than the son of a retired champion.

“I’m not satisfied,” said Tszyu after beating Hogan in March. “I want to be a global boxing star. That’s my goal. It’s always been my goal and I need those big guys. We’re at that stage where I do believe I can compete with the big boys.

“Charlo got rid of Hogan in seven [rounds]. I do it in five [rounds]. So my pace was a bit quicker than Charlo’s. I want an international fight. I want to be recognised globally.”

Jermell has straight up been honest and ducked Tim.

Said he probably won't fight him EVER..

Want to know what 'plans' Jerm has set out.

#1 reason why I've never rated the Charlos super high. Too inactive and never fave any of the big names.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 09:23 Jermell has straight up been honest and ducked Tim.

Said he probably won't fight him EVER..

Want to know what 'plans' Jerm has set out.

Apologies, but did you not read your own post and digest what Jermell actually said?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 09:22“Nobody ever sent me no $10 million contract or none of that. First off, Tim [sic] Kostya Tszyu is not even on a level to even fight for a world title. He's not even on the level to fight some of the guys I've knocked the f--- out of,” Charlo said on his YouTube channel.

“$10 million sounds great. Yes I would love to take that.”

There's no reason for Jermall Charlo to face Tszyu, because he hasn't even received an offer and there are lots of other fighters competing within his own weight class rated above the Aussie (as per BoxRec, TBRB, The RING, ESPN, WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO).

At best, and I'm being really overly-flattering here, Tim Tszyu might (and that's stretching it a bit) be considered a fringe top-ten 154lb-er.

Jermall Charlo clearly has bigger fish to fry and he’s also entitled to his opinion about Tim Tszyu unlikely to progress his career to the point he’s considered a legitimate threat to any of the top-tier names competing at 154lbs.

And let’s be perfectly honest, Tim Tszyu is almost 27 years old, but his career is light years behind Jermall Charlo’s when he was the same age.

I actually agree with the American. The Aussie is a hyped-up name, dining out on the fact he’s “The Son of a Legend”, whilst clearly benefitting from selective slick matchmaking.

I assume you agree, because it would be outrageously ridiculous to sincerely believe Jermall Charlo is “ducking” Tim Tszyu?

if charlo thinks its so easy then he should take the 10 million and knock him out simples !

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:25

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 09:23 Jermell has straight up been honest and ducked Tim.

Said he probably won't fight him EVER..

Want to know what 'plans' Jerm has set out.

Apologies, but did you not read your own post and digest what Jermell actually said?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 09:22“Nobody ever sent me no $10 million contract or none of that. First off, Tim [sic] Kostya Tszyu is not even on a level to even fight for a world title. He's not even on the level to fight some of the guys I've knocked the f--- out of,” Charlo said on his YouTube channel.

“$10 million sounds great. Yes I would love to take that.”

There's no reason for Jermall Charlo to face Tszyu, because he hasn't even received an offer and there are lots of other fighters competing within his own weight class rated above the Aussie (as per BoxRec, TBRB, The RING, ESPN, WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO).

At best, and I'm being really overly-flattering here, Tim Tszyu might (and that's stretching it) be considered a fringe top-ten 154lb-er.

Jermall Charlo clearly has bigger fish to fry and he’s also entitled to his opinion about Tim Tszyu unlikely to progress his career to the point he’s considered a legitimate threat to any of the top-tier names competing at 154lbs.

And let’s be perfectly honest, Tim Tszyu is almost 27 years old, but his career is light years behind Jermall Charlo’s when he was the same age.

I actually agree with the American. The Aussie is a hyped-up name, dining out on the fact he’s “The Son of a Legend”, whilst clearly benefitting from selective slick matchmaking.

I assume you agree, because it would be outrageously ridiculous to sincerely believe Jermall Charlo is “ducking” Tim Tszyu?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 09:22 Charlo: $10M Tszyu Fight Not Happening - 'He's Not On Level To Fight Guys I've Knocked The F--- Out'

“Nobody ever sent me no $10 million contract or none of that. First off, Tim [sic] Kostya Tszyu is not even on a level to even fight for a world title. He's not even on the level to fight some of the guys I've knocked the f--- out of. He ain't even going to have a chance to fight me probably throughout my career. I'm just being honest,”[/i] Charlo said on his YouTube channel "Ringside With The Lions".

You missed this bit..

Why say never?

I know he hasn't received an offer. But Tim's team are obviously flirting with the idea.

He's saying he'll like $10m, but then saying he'll never fight him.

Jermall Charlo clearly has bigger fish to fry and he’s also entitled to his opinion about Tim Tszyu unlikely to progress his career to the point he’s considered a legitimate threat to any of the top-tier names competing at 154lbs.

Fair enough, he has a unification fight next, what fish has he to fry after that? A fight with Hurd? Lara? Go through all he PBC boys again?

Let's see if Tim can get into a WBO mando position and this is ordered. We'll see then what he does.

stevec@france wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:41 if charlo thinks its so easy then he should take the 10 million and knock him out simples !

Once gain, did you not read what he said? Jermall claims he hasn't even received an offer yet?

If he's offered that sort of purse, he did say he'd take it.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:42

stevec@france wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:41 if charlo thinks its so easy then he should take the 10 million and knock him out simples !

Once gain, did you not read what he said? Jermall claims he hasn't even received an offer yet?

If he's offered that sort of purse, he did say he'd take it.

I did read it but just making the point that whatever the purse is for the fight then if its so easy to KO Tyszu then go for it ..

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:42Why say never?

I already answered that. Jermell clearly seems convinced, like I am, that Tszyu isn't good enough to make the grade. He won't even make it to title challenger status without careful matchmaking, because he's very beatable.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:42I know he hasn't received an offer. But Tim's team are obviously flirting with the idea.

Is it more hype? No offer has been made and talk is cheap. Tim Tszyu is definitely being matched against opponents that pose no threat to him.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:42He's saying he'll like $10m, but then saying he'll never fight him.

No. He's saying he'll take the payday, but he hasn't received an offer and he doubts Tszyu's ability to progress to being considered a legitimate title challenger.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:42Fair enough, he has a unification fight next, what fish has he to fry after that? A fight with Hurd? Lara? Go through all he PBC boys again?

I agree with this point, Jermell is running out of options, but let's not forget that no one has offered him a $10m payday to face Tszyu.

And I suspect you'll agree that there are better 154lb-ers than Tszyu?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:42Let's see if Tim can get into a WBO mando position and this is ordered. We'll see then what he does.

Jermall Charlo will inevitably be stripped of one of his titles in the short-term, for failing to perform his mandatories (which happens to all undisputed/unified champions). And the Aussie will likely try to capture one of the vacated belts against less-than-stellar opposition.

That said, if Jermell Charlo is mandated to face Tszyu, then the A-side cash-cow Aussie will be forced to accept a 25% purse split (if the bout progresses to a purse bid). In this scenario, the American will very likely accept the fight.

We've seen fighters like Canelo and GGG renounce their mandatory challenger statuses, because they didn't want to take home the smaller slice of the proverbial pie. I suspect the same will happen with Charlo-Tszyu.

stevec@france wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:45

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:42

stevec@france wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:41 if charlo thinks its so easy then he should take the 10 million and knock him out simples !

Once gain, did you not read what he said? Jermall claims he hasn't even received an offer yet?

If he's offered that sort of purse, he did say he'd take it.

I did read it but just making the point that whatever the purse is for the fight then if its so easy to KO Tyszu then go for it ..

Agreed, as long as there aren't better opponents/options on the table.

stevec@france wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:45

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:42

stevec@france wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:41 if charlo thinks its so easy then he should take the 10 million and knock him out simples !

Once gain, did you not read what he said? Jermall claims he hasn't even received an offer yet?

If he's offered that sort of purse, he did say he'd take it.

I did read it but just making the point that whatever the purse is for the fight then if its so easy to KO Tyszu then go for it ..

He should say, yeh give me the money.. $$$$

Unless the contract says the fight has to take place in Australia..

EO, do you not think Tim is a good fighter?

Name me a boxer who hasn't had an easy route to a world title shot or mandatory position?

9 out of 10 boxers fight low calibre opponents..

This is nothing new.

Me: I’m calling out GGG and I am thinking about offering Gennadiy $10m to take the fight!

Golovkin: Who is that man? I’ve never heard of him before. He’s fought no one. I haven’t received an offer and I not facing him!

Me: GGG is a “duck”, because he refuses to even consider fighting me!

The media and fight fans: GGG is “ducking” Enlightened-One!!! Therefore, Golovkin must be a “duck” and I’ll have to watch Enlightened-One’s future fights, because there must be a valid reason for Gennadiy to “duck” him!

Does anybody understand the point I’m trying to make with my humorous analogy?

Headline Summary: Dishonestly using someone else's name to try to promote oneself!

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 13:01EO, do you not think Tim is a good fighter?

No. He's a carefully-matched hype job.

I hope he proves me wrong though.

The only fighter that's ever compelled me to perform a 180 degree u-turn on my opinion is Joe Joyce.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 13:01Name me a boxer who hasn't had an easy route to a world title shot or mandatory position?

Dillian Whyte. Herol 'Bomber' Graham. Sam Langford. I could name more.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 13:019 out of 10 boxers fight low calibre opponents. This is nothing new.

Agreed, but I didn't suggest Jermell Charlo was "ducking" Tim Tszyu.

To be fair.. Most of Whyte’s tougher fights came after he was named mandatory.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 13:19 To be fair.. Most of Whyte’s tougher fights came after he was named mandatory.

Dillian Whyte only became the WBC's mandatory challenger after beating Oscar Rivas. The WBC previously allowed lower-ranked fighters to obtain mandatory challenger status, jumping the queue ahead of the WBC's number one rated contender.

And let's face it, Dillian Whyte's resume, up to and including the Oscar Rivas fight is petty impressive.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 12:58He should say, yeh give me the money.. $$$$

Unless the contract says the fight has to take place in Australia.

Agreed. If the fight goes the distance, the outcome will be as controversial as Pacquiao-Horn.

Australia is extremely hostile towards road warriors. It's like Germany during the 1980's and 1990's.

don't yall muthaf@ckers question our charlo bois

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 13:39 don't yall muthaf@ckers question our charlo bois

charlo is nothing special anyway , who has he fought

If they ever actually come through with the 10 Mil contract, and he really feels that way, he'd be a fool to turn it down.

does mell even stick around at 154 if he beats castano?

my guess is that timmeh's side prefers a vacant title fight rather than having to beat a stallion like mell

Tim's a beast. I'm not 100% on him yet, but he has dealt with what has been put in front of him pretty devastatingly well
Charlo has 3 belts, pretty easy for Tim to work his way into a mandatory position, possibly in 1 fight if his promoters do it right

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 May 2021, 14:27 does mell even stick around at 154 if he beats castano?

my guess is that timmeh's side prefers a vacant title fight rather than having to beat a stallion like mell

What’s he gonna do? Fight Mall at 160?

GGG may be on his way out soon. That’s the IBF belt. Andrade has the WBO, poor lad can’t get the big fights.. WBA is Murata who is likely to unify with GGG.

Turning down 10 million to fight a borderline prospect is wild... Tszyu is good, but fornicating hell thats an interesting Duck. If someone is not on your levle and giving you more money than canelo would surely you take the easy win...

gregregegg wrote: ↑28 May 2021, 21:53 Turning down 10 million to fight a borderline prospect is wild... Tszyu is good, but fornicating hell thats an interesting Duck. If someone is not on your levle and giving you more money than canelo would surely you take the easy win...

You would if you weren't in the habit of habitually lying and spouting hypothetical hyperbole.

This is modern boxing - 95% business manoeuvring (marketing, contracts, leveraging etc) and 5% fighting.

The sooner the fans wise up and stop paying these clowns the better.

Joe Louis they'll never be.