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Heavyweights : Derek Chisora vs. James Toney

Posted: 17 Jun 2021, 13:58
by Woldemar
12 rounds,who wins?

Re: Heavyweights : Derek Chisora vs. James Toney

Posted: 17 Jun 2021, 14:00
by DrDuke
Chisora would make it rough and vastly outwork Toney. Chisora by wide dec.

Re: Heavyweights : Derek Chisora vs. James Toney

Posted: 17 Jun 2021, 14:02
by Woldemar
DrDuke wrote: 17 Jun 2021, 14:00 Chisora would make it rough and vastly outwork Toney. Chisora by wide dec.
Yeah,it would be a similar on Peter vs Toney II

Re: Heavyweights : Derek Chisora vs. James Toney

Posted: 17 Jun 2021, 20:34
by margaret thatcher
toney at his hw best would win a clear decision

Re: Heavyweights : Derek Chisora vs. James Toney

Posted: 17 Jun 2021, 22:05
by gilgamesh
Toney is one of my all time favorite fighters, but Chisora beats him. It'd be competitive though.

Re: Heavyweights : Derek Chisora vs. James Toney

Posted: 17 Jun 2021, 22:13
by margaret thatcher
i dunno, toney looked pretty good tooling holyfield and ruiz, prob deserved the first peter fight too. im surprised if ppl think chizzy is better than all those guys

i think he would mostly have his way countering del

Re: Heavyweights : Derek Chisora vs. James Toney

Posted: 17 Jun 2021, 23:44
by DrDuke
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Jun 2021, 22:13 i dunno, toney looked pretty good tooling holyfield and ruiz, prob deserved the first peter fight too. im surprised if ppl think chizzy is better than all those guys

i think he would mostly have his way countering del
Nah, Toney is overrated at HW. Holyfield was simply shot, Ruiz was simply sh!t. And I had the 1st Peter bout for Sam. Chisora seems better than Peter.

Re: Heavyweights : Derek Chisora vs. James Toney

Posted: 18 Jun 2021, 00:16
by gilgamesh
DrDuke wrote: 17 Jun 2021, 23:44
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Jun 2021, 22:13 i dunno, toney looked pretty good tooling holyfield and ruiz, prob deserved the first peter fight too. im surprised if ppl think chizzy is better than all those guys

i think he would mostly have his way countering del
Nah, Toney is overrated at HW. Holyfield was simply shot, Ruiz was simply sh!t. And I had the 1st Peter bout for Sam. Chisora seems better than Peter.
I thought Toney won the first Peter fight, but it was debatable. The 2nd fight was clear cut for Sam.

Ruiz wasn't a great fighter, but he wasn't exactly easy to beat. He was able to draw guys into his awkward ass style. I thought Rahman deserved the nod over Toney, but Ruiz beat Rahman so it's all styles.

Toney being a good inside fighter, was able to shut down Ruiz's hugging and mugging style.

Re: Heavyweights : Derek Chisora vs. James Toney

Posted: 18 Jun 2021, 14:38
by DrDuke
gilgamesh wrote: 18 Jun 2021, 00:16
DrDuke wrote: 17 Jun 2021, 23:44
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Jun 2021, 22:13 i dunno, toney looked pretty good tooling holyfield and ruiz, prob deserved the first peter fight too. im surprised if ppl think chizzy is better than all those guys

i think he would mostly have his way countering del
Nah, Toney is overrated at HW. Holyfield was simply shot, Ruiz was simply sh!t. And I had the 1st Peter bout for Sam. Chisora seems better than Peter.
I thought Toney won the first Peter fight, but it was debatable. The 2nd fight was clear cut for Sam.

Ruiz wasn't a great fighter, but he wasn't exactly easy to beat. He was able to draw guys into his awkward ass style. I thought Rahman deserved the nod over Toney, but Ruiz beat Rahman so it's all styles.

Toney being a good inside fighter, was able to shut down Ruiz's hugging and mugging style.
I remember Rahman-Ruiz being an either-way-going hugging sh!t, where Ruiz could easily be warned and DQed, if he didn't stop to initiate excessing holding. Well, almost all Ruiz fights were like that. And in Rahman-Toney fight I picked Rahman too.

Re: Heavyweights : Derek Chisora vs. James Toney

Posted: 18 Jun 2021, 17:30
by emallini
Toney by wide decision

Re: Heavyweights : Derek Chisora vs. James Toney

Posted: 18 Jun 2021, 19:54
by goose 5
Toney on points for me, too.

Re: Heavyweights : Derek Chisora vs. James Toney

Posted: 19 Jun 2021, 03:15
by Evander
Toney Decision