And the new Boxrec #1 Junior Welterweight is...
Posted: 28 Jun 2021, 11:29
You know, that exactly such issues and possible solutions are discussed in the ratings thread. You know from the ratings thread, that there is an actually considered rating option, where Crawford would be #2 in his division. And you know that with the same option Davis would be only close above Josh Taylor.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 12:05 It's obviously an anomaly, but we need to remember the BoxRec points system is based on a flawed mathematical calculation.
Josh Taylor’s victories over Jose Carlos Ramirez and Regis Prograis would have gained the Scot a lot of rankings points, but his other victories weren't particularly remarkable.
Also, Gervonta Davis has competed in more bouts, fought more world champions, engaged in more world title fights and achieved success in more weight classes.
The American has also faced more guys with 10+ BoxRec points than Taylor has.
For the record, I’m not suggesting that Gervonta Davis is a better fighter than Josh Taylor, but I can understand the reason why he’s accumulated more BoxRec rating points.
Look at Terence Crawford's ratings, he's fought nobody of any note within the last four years, but yet he's still rated highly by BoxRec.
It just goes to show that it's impossible to use a formula to accurately gauge ratings.
If solutions are discussed nothing is ever put into action apparently because they've sucked since always, and still do. Davis isn't Top 5 at 140. Barely Top 5 at Lightweight either.computerrank wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 13:00You know, that exactly such issues and possible solutions are discussed in the ratings thread. You know from the ratings thread, that there is an actually considered rating option, where Crawford would be #2 in his division. And you know that with the same option Davis would be only close above Josh Taylor.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 12:05 It's obviously an anomaly, but we need to remember the BoxRec points system is based on a flawed mathematical calculation.
Josh Taylor’s victories over Jose Carlos Ramirez and Regis Prograis would have gained the Scot a lot of rankings points, but his other victories weren't particularly remarkable.
Also, Gervonta Davis has competed in more bouts, fought more world champions, engaged in more world title fights and achieved success in more weight classes.
The American has also faced more guys with 10+ BoxRec points than Taylor has.
For the record, I’m not suggesting that Gervonta Davis is a better fighter than Josh Taylor, but I can understand the reason why he’s accumulated more BoxRec rating points.
Look at Terence Crawford's ratings, he's fought nobody of any note within the last four years, but yet he's still rated highly by BoxRec.
It just goes to show that it's impossible to use a formula to accurately gauge ratings.
In spite of that you play the big man here. Your are a troll,, what a pathetic character, I now learned. Nobody to take seriously, sorry.
140 has the clearest #1 in the entire sport!gilgamesh wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 14:12If solutions are discussed nothing is ever put into action apparently because they've sucked since always, and still do. Davis isn't Top 5 at 140. Barely Top 5 at Lightweight either.computerrank wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 13:00You know, that exactly such issues and possible solutions are discussed in the ratings thread. You know from the ratings thread, that there is an actually considered rating option, where Crawford would be #2 in his division. And you know that with the same option Davis would be only close above Josh Taylor.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 12:05 It's obviously an anomaly, but we need to remember the BoxRec points system is based on a flawed mathematical calculation.
Josh Taylor’s victories over Jose Carlos Ramirez and Regis Prograis would have gained the Scot a lot of rankings points, but his other victories weren't particularly remarkable.
Also, Gervonta Davis has competed in more bouts, fought more world champions, engaged in more world title fights and achieved success in more weight classes.
The American has also faced more guys with 10+ BoxRec points than Taylor has.
For the record, I’m not suggesting that Gervonta Davis is a better fighter than Josh Taylor, but I can understand the reason why he’s accumulated more BoxRec rating points.
Look at Terence Crawford's ratings, he's fought nobody of any note within the last four years, but yet he's still rated highly by BoxRec.
It just goes to show that it's impossible to use a formula to accurately gauge ratings.
In spite of that you play the big man here. Your are a troll,, what a pathetic character, I now learned. Nobody to take seriously, sorry.
Can you please refute the following facts?computerrank wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 13:00You know, that exactly such issues and possible solutions are discussed in the ratings thread. You know from the ratings thread, that there is an actually considered rating option, where Crawford would be #2 in his division. And you know that with the same option Davis would be only close above Josh Taylor.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 12:05 It's obviously an anomaly, but we need to remember the BoxRec points system is based on a flawed mathematical calculation.
Josh Taylor’s victories over Jose Carlos Ramirez and Regis Prograis would have gained the Scot a lot of rankings points, but his other victories weren't particularly remarkable.
Also, Gervonta Davis has competed in more bouts, fought more world champions, engaged in more world title fights and achieved success in more weight classes.
The American has also faced more guys with 10+ BoxRec points than Taylor has.
For the record, I’m not suggesting that Gervonta Davis is a better fighter than Josh Taylor, but I can understand the reason why he’s accumulated more BoxRec rating points.
Look at Terence Crawford's ratings, he's fought nobody of any note within the last four years, but yet he's still rated highly by BoxRec.
It just goes to show that it's impossible to use a formula to accurately gauge ratings.
In spite of that you play the big man here. Your are a troll,, what a pathetic character, I now learned. Nobody to take seriously, sorry.
he would be #1 at 154 too
Quantity? Quality? They have a boxer who has had one match at the weight rated above the undisputed, unified champion. It does not matter how you deconstruct the equation/algorithms, there is no rationalization in this reality for it.gregregegg wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 15:28 I swear boxrec rankings about 3 years ago were excellent. It was when they were really rating quality over quantity.
P4p isn't as bothersome as 40. Wilder at 12 is madness. Fury, aj & charlo look pretty freaking high. Inoue too low.KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 16:21 Even worse>
https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?r%5Brole% ... 5D=a&r_go=
He is #8 P4P
Look who is below him, friggin Taylor and Uysk!
Has Floyd been slipping John free tickets to his strip club or something, because we all know he loves a lap dance![]()
Firstly, welcome backOnetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 16:28P4p isn't as bothersome as 40. Wilder at 12 is madness. Fury, aj & charlo look pretty freaking high. Inoue too low.KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 16:21 Even worse>
https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?r%5Brole% ... 5D=a&r_go=
He is #8 P4P
Look who is below him, friggin Taylor and Uysk!
Has Floyd been slipping John free tickets to his strip club or something, because we all know he loves a lap dance![]()
Thank you. I'm an eye tester as much as resume with p4p. Too hard to stretch the time line. Id have Josh higher there too, but tank looks the part and I rate barrios. LSC is a bit undervalued IMO.KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 16:35Firstly, welcome backOnetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 16:28P4p isn't as bothersome as 40. Wilder at 12 is madness. Fury, aj & charlo look pretty freaking high. Inoue too low.KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 16:21 Even worse>
https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?r%5Brole% ... 5D=a&r_go=
He is #8 P4P
Look who is below him, friggin Taylor and Uysk!
Has Floyd been slipping John free tickets to his strip club or something, because we all know he loves a lap dance![]()
And what disturbs me is who the heck has Tank beaten?
Old Gamboa is his best win. Even Maggie had trouble doing his top #5.
Barrios - a third tier SLW is probably his 2nd or 3rd best win.
It's baffling.
LSC has been prime for cherry picking. Left it all in the ring with Frampton and never shown that level since.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 16:39Thank you. I'm an eye tester as much as resume with p4p. Too hard to stretch the time line. Id have Josh higher there too, but tank looks the part and I rate barrios. LSC is a bit undervalued IMO.KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 16:35Firstly, welcome backOnetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 16:28
P4p isn't as bothersome as 40. Wilder at 12 is madness. Fury, aj & charlo look pretty freaking high. Inoue too low.
And what disturbs me is who the heck has Tank beaten?
Old Gamboa is his best win. Even Maggie had trouble doing his top #5.
Barrios - a third tier SLW is probably his 2nd or 3rd best win.
It's baffling.
I thought he fought well against Davis.KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 16:41LSC has been prime for cherry picking. Left it all in the ring with Frampton and never shown that level since.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jun 2021, 16:39Thank you. I'm an eye tester as much as resume with p4p. Too hard to stretch the time line. Id have Josh higher there too, but tank looks the part and I rate barrios. LSC is a bit undervalued IMO.