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So how do you feel about this from Nevada State Athletic Commission, if positive tests are revealed from boxers with weed in their system will no longer be punished?

Is this the right step to go?

Will it open the floodgates for other drugs such as crack and cocaine etc?

Good move, and hopefully doesn't lead to legitimizing any other drugs.

MasterG wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 14:17 So how do you feel about this from Nevada State Athletic Commission, if positive tests are revealed from boxers with weed in their system will no longer be punished?

Is this the right step to go?

Will it open the floodgates for other drugs such as crack and cocaine etc?

Fighters should be “clean” during training camp and also for their bouts. Although I’m not that passionate about this rule.

I also don’t agree with the reason the decision has been made, to pander for leftist snowflakes that ignore the existence of the rules and then complain about discrimination/representation/persecution when caught out.

It’s simple.

Abide by the rules. And if the rules eventually change, then so be it. Just keep following the rules.

And be willing to accept any punishment if you choose to ignore the rules, otherwise don’t break them!

It isnt performance enhancing which can lead to danger so who cares

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 14:35 It isnt performance enhancing which can lead to danger so who cares

I’m more bothered about the reason the rules are changing.

It’s about political ideology and caving into the demands of the overly-sensitive extreme left.

It’s down to media pressure.

Marijuana dulls reflexes so it doesn't belong on the list of performance enhancing drugs. Makes sense to me.

Good move

Rocky- wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 14:57 Marijuana dulls reflexes so it doesn't belong on the list of performance enhancing drugs. Makes sense to me.

I agree if anything it makes you worse not better

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 14:39

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 14:35 It isnt performance enhancing which can lead to danger so who cares

I’m more bothered about the reason the rules are changing.

It’s about political ideology and caving into the demands of the overly-sensitive extreme left.

It’s down to media pressure.

It’s hardly pandering to the left, it’s moving with the nation/world. Weed was banned cause it was illegal, not because it’s performance in hanging. Now with half the athletes coming from states where having a joint is like having a beer ( except it is detectable for weeks/months depending on the test) why ban them for it.

In MMA nick diazs carrer was destroyed by a positive weed test, while juicers got a slap on the wrist sure similar has happened in boxing.

This is not pandering to an ideology it’s correcting a mistake that was pandering to an ideology. Thought the right was all about freedom and deregulation, yet call the left snowflakes when they push for it…

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 14:39

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 14:35 It isnt performance enhancing which can lead to danger so who cares

I’m more bothered about the reason the rules are changing.

It’s about political ideology and caving into the demands of the overly-sensitive extreme left.

It’s down to media pressure.

Yeah but you werent bothered when canelo violated the rules even though you think it was a bs violation

ya! f@cking political far left making the mary joo wana not illegal in boxing! are george soros, bill gates, and blm behind this?

tbh, the overly sensitive ones are the ones who have a problem with this, big deal if pot is no longer illegal

It was always a bit arbitrary marijuana was so frowned upon for so long, while cigarettes and alcohol were advertised like crazy. IMO THC is much less invasive on the body and taking a few wacks off a joint after a hard days work should be no less frowned upon than drinking a couple beers after a long days work.

It was ok for doctors to prescribe patients highly addictive pain killers and muscle relaxers that have much more harmful long term effects on the body, but God forbid you smoke marijuana.

NateJR wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 07:48 It was always a bit arbitrary marijuana was so frowned upon for so long, while cigarettes and alcohol were advertised like crazy. IMO THC is much less invasive on the body and taking a few wacks off a joint after a hard days work should be no less frowned upon than drinking a couple beers after a long days work.

It was ok for doctors to prescribe patients highly addictive pain killers and muscle relaxers that have much more harmful long term effects on the body, but God forbid you smoke marijuana.

Radical loony leftist communist talk that. Sounds like someone thats injected 1 too many marijuanas.

gregregegg wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 08:52

NateJR wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 07:48 It was always a bit arbitrary marijuana was so frowned upon for so long, while cigarettes and alcohol were advertised like crazy. IMO THC is much less invasive on the body and taking a few wacks off a joint after a hard days work should be no less frowned upon than drinking a couple beers after a long days work.

It was ok for doctors to prescribe patients highly addictive pain killers and muscle relaxers that have much more harmful long term effects on the body, but God forbid you smoke marijuana.

Radical loony leftist communist talk that. Sounds like someone thats injected 1 too many marijuanas.

Lol, I don't smoke weed and rarely drink alcohol. I'm also very much a Republican, notice I said "after work".

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 21:02

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 14:39

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 14:35 It isnt performance enhancing which can lead to danger so who cares

I’m more bothered about the reason the rules are changing.

It’s about political ideology and caving into the demands of the overly-sensitive extreme left.

It’s down to media pressure.

Yeah but you werent bothered when canelo violated the rules even though you think it was a bs violation

Wasn't I? Are you really sure about that? One of my earliest posts about that situation was me expressing my disappointment.

That said, I definitely claimed that Billy Joe Saunders' situation with the MSAC was a bs violation, because he didn't break any rules (as per WADA, UKAD, USADA, BBBofC etc.).

So perhaps you've confused both situations?

The one thing I will say, is that many from this forum doggedly maintain that Canelo was “juiced to the gills” when he failed the VADA test, which is clearly incorrect, because if he was tested today and submitted the same levels of the same drug, he’d be deemed as being a clean athlete (as per the current rules of WADA, NSAC & the WBC).

gregregegg wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 18:22

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 14:39

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 14:35 It isnt performance enhancing which can lead to danger so who cares

I’m more bothered about the reason the rules are changing.

It’s about political ideology and caving into the demands of the overly-sensitive extreme left.

It’s down to media pressure.

It’s hardly pandering to the left, it’s moving with the nation/world. Weed was banned cause it was illegal, not because it’s performance in hanging.

I'm referring to the Sha'Carri Richardson situation and the type of supporters she has that frantically demanded the change to the rules regarding marijuana in sports.

If an athlete holding polar opposite political views to Sha'Carri Richardson (and her fans) had failed a drug test, due to marijuana, the very same set of people would be clamouring for them to be "cancelled."

Like I said before, I've never been that bothered about recreational drugs in sports, but I just dislike the reason and also the media pressure from the far left that resulted in the change of rules.

I don't like politics in sport. And I also dislike inconsistency/hypocrisy. All athletes should be treated the same.

Dude, the cancel crowd does not 'cancel' people for smoking weed. You just sound confused right now.

squiggy wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 13:17 Dude, the cancel crowd does not 'cancel' people for smoking weed. You just sound confused right now.

The cancel crowd actively look for reasons, no matter how trivial, to cancel anyone they deem as being their opponents.

I’ve studied the Sha'Carri Richardson situation and my opinion is what it is.

But like I said before, I’m not really that bothered about recreational drugs in sport, I just dislike how easy it is for the far left to get their own way.

The loud minority click their fingers and everyone else has to dance to their tune.

It is not a minority who think weed should be legal -- it's a clear majority. Getting in trouble because you like to smoke weed now and then is like getting in trouble because you like to jerk off or something. It's like, really, are we all adults here or not? It isn't a radical position, and it isn't dependent on people's other political positions.

squiggy wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 13:31 It is not a minority who think weed should be legal -- it's a clear majority. Getting in trouble because you like to smoke weed now and then is like getting in trouble because you like to jerk off or something. It's like, really, are we all adults here or not? It isn't a radical position, and it isn't dependent on people's other political positions.

If people that weren’t from the far left asked for the ban to be lifted for marijuana, it wouldn’t have happened. Hence my complaint.

Just forget about marijuana for a second - that’s not my concern.

You’re getting sidetracked, because we’re clearly on the same page when it comes to that.

Why not just take it as a happy confluence that the cancel crowd is right for once?

(Accepting your framework, that this is even about the cancel crowd.)

In other words, were this a story about gender demographics or trans inclusivity or so on, it actually would be pretty annoying. But it isn't!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 13:34

squiggy wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 13:31 It is not a minority who think weed should be legal -- it's a clear majority. Getting in trouble because you like to smoke weed now and then is like getting in trouble because you like to jerk off or something. It's like, really, are we all adults here or not? It isn't a radical position, and it isn't dependent on people's other political positions.

If people that weren’t from the far left asked for the ban to be lifted for marijuana, it wouldn’t have happened. Hence my complaint.

Just forget about marijuana for a second - that’s not my concern.

You’re getting sidetracked, because we’re clearly on the same page when it comes to that.

Plenty of conservatives and others more on the right support legalization. You're a couple decades behind on this one.

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 14:11

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 13:34

squiggy wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 13:31 It is not a minority who think weed should be legal -- it's a clear majority. Getting in trouble because you like to smoke weed now and then is like getting in trouble because you like to jerk off or something. It's like, really, are we all adults here or not? It isn't a radical position, and it isn't dependent on people's other political positions.

If people that weren’t from the far left asked for the ban to be lifted for marijuana, it wouldn’t have happened. Hence my complaint.

Just forget about marijuana for a second - that’s not my concern.

You’re getting sidetracked, because we’re clearly on the same page when it comes to that.

Plenty of conservatives and others more on the right support legalization. You're a couple decades behind on this one.

OMG oogiebe! I don’t know how many times I need to explain my lack of concern about marijuana.

I keep saying the same things every single post.

Whilst I can’t force you to read my words, don’t pretend I’ve said things I clearly haven’t!