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Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 07:01
by coghaugen11
Hatton has began spouting to anyone who’ll listen lately that Kostya Tszyu was ‘the number-one best pound-for-pound fighter in the world’ when he beat him.

What garbage is this? Clearly Floyd Mayweather was a totally different class to anyone else at the time for me.

Tszyu looked slow, old and heavy-footed against disinterested contender Mitchell in 2004 the fight before - a guy he’d already measured down years before. He was rusty against Hatton and not quite shot but not far off - nowhere near one of the best fighters in the world at the time.

I remember seeing Tszyu in 1994 against top guys. He probably peaked around 96 v Bergman.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 07:08
by emallini
He was top 3

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 07:12
by IRONFIST
Hatton has always been obsessed with the poun' fer poun' malarkey

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 07:54
by gregregegg
Did mayweather even have a belt at that point? he had just fought 2 pretty average opponents in 140 lb elliminators... If mayweather was above Kosta at that point it probably wasnt definant. Mayweather was clearly on the up, costa on the down, but Ratings always have a bit of a lag.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 08:02
by coghaugen11
Does it matter? He was the best.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 08:03
by Coco
Boxers of the past??

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 08:03
by coghaugen11
People were talking about Roy Jones being the best lb4lb in 1992 - he had never done anything or fought anyone.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 08:04
by coghaugen11
Coco wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 08:03 Boxers of the past??
He’s a prominent trainer in the game.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 08:07
by Coco
coghaugen11 wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 08:04
Coco wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 08:03 Boxers of the past??
He’s a prominent trainer in the game.
So it would be relevant if you were talking about that, wrong forum

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 08:19
by coghaugen11
Coco wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 08:07
coghaugen11 wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 08:04
Coco wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 08:03 Boxers of the past??
He’s a prominent trainer in the game.
So it would be relevant if you were talking about that, wrong forum
These are from very recent interviews and he’s an all-time British ticket seller. Ticket selling royalty in British boxing?

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 08:34
by cormack
hatton always running off at the mouth about something or other and its usually tripe .

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 09:16
by coghaugen11
stevec@france wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 08:34 hatton always running off at the mouth about something or other and its usually tripe .
It’s wonderful to win a version of a world title, like my hero’s did, but to beat the best pound for pound fighter walking the face of the planet......


fornicate off you knob :lol:

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 10:02
by rio
He was the no 1 in the division by a country mile and definitely consensus top 5 pound for pound. Hatton was a huge underdog that night.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 10:07
by Monzon83
It was a good win, but he doesn't half fuckin go on about it. He's worse than Froch and his 80 000 at Wembley routine.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 10:07
by coghaugen11
rio wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 10:02 He was the no 1 in the division by a country mile and definitely consensus top 5 pound for pound. Hatton was a huge underdog that night.
By a country mile he was beating PACman mate.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 10:08
by coghaugen11
Monzon83 wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 10:07 It was a good win, but he doesn't half fuckin go on about it. He's worse than Froch and his 80 000 at Wembley routine.
I was there - it was half empty. Touts lost a bomb.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 10:10
by coghaugen11
The Facebook hype was unreal though, Facebook had peaked and Howard Foster stoppage clips were everywhere

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 12:35
by polecateddy
Tszyu as I remember it was very inactive before Hatton - 1 fight in 2 and a half years! And was probably a bit flattered by his previous fight with Mitchell. Mitchell wasn’t a bad fighter, but Tszyu really seemed to have his number. The loss to Phillips was fairly terrible, but generally he did well against what was a bit of shallow pool at the time. Certainly he would have been outclassed by De La Hoya if that match was ever made.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 13:15
by high tower 1
polecateddy wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 12:35 Tszyu as I remember it was very inactive before Hatton - 1 fight in 2 and a half years! And was probably a bit flattered by his previous fight with Mitchell. Mitchell wasn’t a bad fighter, but Tszyu really seemed to have his number. The loss to Phillips was fairly terrible, but generally he did well against what was a bit of shallow pool at the time. Certainly he would have been outclassed by De La Hoya if that match was ever made.
East to pick out flaws in any win. At the end of the day he beat the number one in the division in a fight many thought he would lose.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 13:19
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 10:08
Monzon83 wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 10:07 It was a good win, but he doesn't half fuckin go on about it. He's worse than Froch and his 80 000 at Wembley routine.
I was there - it was half empty. Touts lost a bomb.
I was at both. Neither half empty. Hatton-Kostya was rammed, whereas at Wembley the only seats free were part of a coach/ticket deal.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 13:45
by polecateddy
high tower 1 wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 13:15
polecateddy wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 12:35 Tszyu as I remember it was very inactive before Hatton - 1 fight in 2 and a half years! And was probably a bit flattered by his previous fight with Mitchell. Mitchell wasn’t a bad fighter, but Tszyu really seemed to have his number. The loss to Phillips was fairly terrible, but generally he did well against what was a bit of shallow pool at the time. Certainly he would have been outclassed by De La Hoya if that match was ever made.
East to pick out flaws in any win. At the end of the day he beat the number one in the division in a fight many thought he would lose.
Yes, it was a solid changing of the guard type affair. In the mould of Barry McGuigan and Pedroza. The veteran champion meets a young, hungry challenger and comes in 2nd place. I don’t think Hatton was ever that sharp or determined again. Probably too much yo-yo dieting, etc.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 13:55
by bripez
Monzon83 wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 10:07 It was a good win, but he doesn't half fuckin go on about it. He's worse than Froch and his 80 000 at Wembley routine.
True - it was a great win, but the timing and matchmaking were perfect

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 14:10
by orbtastic
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 13:19
coghaugen11 wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 10:08
Monzon83 wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 10:07 It was a good win, but he doesn't half fuckin go on about it. He's worse than Froch and his 80 000 at Wembley routine.
I was there - it was half empty. Touts lost a bomb.
I was at both. Neither half empty. Hatton-Kostya was rammed, whereas at Wembley the only seats free were part of a coach/ticket deal.
I was at both. MEN was full. Wembley wasn’t. You had a red band the entire way around the stadium of empty seats. I don't know what the capacity of Wembley is but I’m fairly sure it’s more than 80k

Half empty is wishful thinking. I’d say it was about 90% full.

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 14:11
by Foggy
Just looking in stay in the limelight like many other celebs do 👍

Re: Has Ricky lost it?

Posted: 08 Jul 2021, 14:34
by mickey1975
orbtastic wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 14:10
mickey1975 wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 13:19
coghaugen11 wrote: 08 Jul 2021, 10:08

I was there - it was half empty. Touts lost a bomb.
I was at both. Neither half empty. Hatton-Kostya was rammed, whereas at Wembley the only seats free were part of a coach/ticket deal.
I was at both. MEN was full. Wembley wasn’t. You had a red band the entire way around the stadium of empty seats. I don't know what the capacity of Wembley is but I’m fairly sure it’s more than 80k

Half empty is wishful thinking. I’d say it was about 90% full.
Yes, you couldn't buy them without the coach.