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British boxers whos careers are virtually over..
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 06:02
by Jedi Knight
Here's my list:
Audley Harrison (pissed too many people off & couldn't pull a crowd at a wet tee-shirt competition with the cast of Hollyoaks)
Joe Calzaghe (After the Mitchell fight I was mildly optimitic but starting to feel his career is has taken a nose dive)
Julius Francis (Please, please, please, someone tell him to retire)
Danny Williams (Had his shot, didn't come off; a couple more domestic and then it's time to call it a day I feel)
Ryan Rhodes (Has been on the road to nowhere since losing to Blundell)
Takaloo (As much as I like old Tak, it's a hard road back from the last defeat and to be honest he's already lost 5. Still got power but won't get him any "proper" titles I feel.... :(
Steve Murray (No way back really for steve after the earl defeats, may fight some 8 rounders but that's curtains I think)
Bobby Vanzie (Looked a bright propect at one point but like many he got found out)
Any more?
Can I ask all the Hatton haters to refrain from adding his name to this list as I saw a threat not log ago saying his career is virtually over..!!

Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 08:37
by Foggy
I'll chuck Robin Reid into the equation, even though he came close maybe even won against Ottke and with his win against Magee i feel that he'll never be a world beater again
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 09:01
by kevin
Julius was ringside at Southampton on Sunday, MC Goodall was saying and we are happy to have at ringside a great warrior who today has announced his retirement.. Please be upstanding for Danny Cooper

Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 10:42
by Coconut
Old Johnny N won't be able to resist the lure of the SKY bow tie on a permanent basis for too much longer, especially as everyone seems to be ignoring him and focussing on idiots like Kelvin Davis.
What's the story on Richard Williams?
John McDermott to retire in 2005.
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 12:17
by Priff
Javaid Kaliq (what's he up to then?)
Gary Lockett (contraversial, but i think another setback of any description could be enough for him to pack it in).
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 12:52
by jomothepure
Herbie Hide?
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 12:56
by jamesmcdonnell
Damaen Kelly.
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 13:00
by J
didnt he just beat jason booth james?
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 13:03
by kevin
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Damaen Kelly.
You been drinking James??
Wayne McCullough if he loses tomorrow
Kev
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 13:10
by KOJOE90
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Damaen Kelly.
I don't agree I still think Kelly has something to offer.
Not sure what more Tony Oakey has to offer though.
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 13:10
by glittermonkey
Damaen Kelly might well qualify. It all depends on what exactly "over" means. In terms of world level, it probably is over for Kelly, although there are certainly titles to go for domestically or on the continent.
Regardles of the definition of over, Julius Francis qualifies. Surely he's made enough money to stop him from being even more of a trial horse than he is right now.
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 13:11
by kevin
KOJOE90 wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Damaen Kelly.
I don't agree I still think Kelly has something to offer.
Not sure what more Tony Oakey has to offer though.
Oakey may answer that question on Saturday
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 16:38
by stujones
Mark Winters
Keith Long (who needs to fight him).
Neil Simpson.
Chris Saunders
Harry Dhami
Steve Chinnock (unfortunately).
Lee Swaby
Darren Corbett
Damon Hague
Jim Rock
Charles Shepard.
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 16:40
by kevin
Rock fights forum regular Peter Jackson for the Irish title on the 19th
Kev
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 16:44
by stujones
Is Peter Irish?
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 16:46
by kevin
Irish descent
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 17:06
by jamesmcdonnell
Kevin wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Damaen Kelly.
You been drinking James??
Wayne McCullough if he loses tomorrow
Kev
I guess i mean at world level, which is certainly where Kelly belonged.
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 17:16
by stujones
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Kevin wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Damaen Kelly.
You been drinking James??
Wayne McCullough if he loses tomorrow
Kev
I guess i mean at world level, which is certainly where Kelly belonged.
Do you think Kelly has slipped, James? Or do you think it is over at that level because he'll never get the chance.
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 17:29
by jamesmcdonnell
just getting old, he's old for a flyweight, and with his lack of power he's hindered. He's a slick boxer who needs his reflexes and heading towards 34, I don't see him being able to win a title shot. I think it unlikely he will get a shot in any case.
he's still too good for the likes of booth, but it's not like there was a huge gulf in class evident in that fight.
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 17:36
by stujones
jamesmcdonnell wrote:just getting old, he's old for a flyweight, and with his lack of power he's hindered. He's a slick boxer who needs his reflexes and heading towards 34, I don't see him being able to win a title shot. I think it unlikely he will get a shot in any case.
he's still too good for the likes of booth, but it's not like there was a huge gulf in class evident in that fight.
He's 31 James. Although I know what you are saying.
I personally don't think he's slipped I just think styles makes fights and his style makes Booth look better than what he is. Don't want to degrade Booth, but if Kelly could punch it would have been a much more one sided fight. If there is any "world" class fighter Booth would look good against it is a non-puncher like Kelly. Having said that, I had Kelly a big points winner.
I still think Kelly is belongs in the world top ten but with Pachecco losing perhaps will never win a major version of the title.
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 17:49
by jamesmcdonnell
Whoops so he is, where the fornicate did i get 34 from? one question, has he moved up to Super flyweight now?
Re: British boxers whos careers are virtually over..
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 17:51
by Max Molyneux
Jedi Knight wrote:Here's my list:
Audley Harrison (pissed too many people off & couldn't pull a crowd at a wet tee-shirt competition with the cast of Hollyoaks)
Joe Calzaghe (After the Mitchell fight I was mildly optimitic but starting to feel his career is has taken a nose dive)
Julius Francis (Please, please, please, someone tell him to retire)
Danny Williams (Had his shot, didn't come off; a couple more domestic and then it's time to call it a day I feel)
Ryan Rhodes (Has been on the road to nowhere since losing to Blundell)
Takaloo (As much as I like old Tak, it's a hard road back from the last defeat and to be honest he's already lost 5. Still got power but won't get him any "proper" titles I feel.... :(
Steve Murray (No way back really for steve after the earl defeats, may fight some 8 rounders but that's curtains I think)
Bobby Vanzie (Looked a bright propect at one point but like many he got found out)
Any more?
Can I ask all the Hatton haters to refrain from adding his name to this list as I saw a threat not log ago saying his career is virtually over..!!

Agree with you on Francis, man he ain't won since his first match with Danny. Mostly loses on points though.
Re: British boxers whos careers are virtually over..
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 18:00
by stujones
Max Molyneux wrote:Jedi Knight wrote:Here's my list:
Audley Harrison (pissed too many people off & couldn't pull a crowd at a wet tee-shirt competition with the cast of Hollyoaks)
Joe Calzaghe (After the Mitchell fight I was mildly optimitic but starting to feel his career is has taken a nose dive)
Julius Francis (Please, please, please, someone tell him to retire)
Danny Williams (Had his shot, didn't come off; a couple more domestic and then it's time to call it a day I feel)
Ryan Rhodes (Has been on the road to nowhere since losing to Blundell)
Takaloo (As much as I like old Tak, it's a hard road back from the last defeat and to be honest he's already lost 5. Still got power but won't get him any "proper" titles I feel.... :(
Steve Murray (No way back really for steve after the earl defeats, may fight some 8 rounders but that's curtains I think)
Bobby Vanzie (Looked a bright propect at one point but like many he got found out)
Any more?
Can I ask all the Hatton haters to refrain from adding his name to this list as I saw a threat not log ago saying his career is virtually over..!!

Agree with you on Francis, man he ain't won since his first match with Danny. Mostly loses on points though.
Well, actually he has had 2 wins and a draw since then (Welsch and Neilson = wins, Simpkin = Draw). Although, completely agree its quite sad watch his belly plod around the ring.
Posted: 08 Feb 2005, 18:03
by E
What about HErbie Hide?