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Back this weekend vs a journeyman in a fight he should win comfortably..

What will this comeback be? feels like he will just fight 6 rounders to try get some of the kids he trains onto cards which i guess is a fine reason to fight. But if he beats a few journyman back to back will he try move ahead?

How far can he realistically go? if he wants money that babic fight is there... but it would be nice to see him stay in his lane and get an area title and then try poach a weak English title when fabaio drops it. Even a very weak brittish or commonwealth if either pops up at some point. Mabey lovejoy for the WBA bronze world championships...

Does anyone still care?

Yep, I’ll be watching his fights and I hope he does well. He‘s a proper character and good bloke.

I think he said something about fighting guys who he should be fighting based on his ability rather than his name so I imagine it will just be journeymen or domestic level guys. So I agree with you as if he can grab a low level belt against someone that he thinks he can realistically beat at commonwealth or against the likes of Lovejoy then he probably wouldn't turn it down. Don't see him going any further than that this time. Seeing as he's not with Hearn anymore I don't think many big-ish names will be after him as the payday will be much smaller.

Allen will be decent fodder for the likes of the upcoming heavies like Adeleye, Dacres, Wardley, Fisher. Eventually Tommy Welch. Might win a couple too.

It is quite ironic that really in this time of "novelty" fights - Allen - one of those whose earning power was based more on his personality than his ability time seems to have passed. I really cant see him being used as a journeyman for the likes of Dubois - I can't see the money in that, well not really the money Allen has been used to- and he is not really going to get onto the "triller" scene as he isn't any type of name in the US.

He had a platform on Sky and I think it might depend really on Sky's next step. There isn't the heavyweights out there not tied to promoter that he could fight on "normal" Sky. I think a lot might depend on Joshua's next move - if he continues on SBO then I could see Sky using Allen as a chief support - as they will need to find name non Hearn / Warren fighters to fill those cards - so Allen against a Mexican Road sweeper would be fine then and with the SBO money I'm sure Allen will take that pay day.

Alternatively - the only 2 fights I can see him going for are.

vs Derek Chisora on SBO and, yep I will say it, vs David Haye on SBO - I'm pretty certain Chisora is not tied to Matchroom and I just don't think Allen wants to be in the sport for low money - which as things stand, I cannot see any other way.

Does he really have the ambition to fight the likes of Gorman to try and better his ranking when he has been used to commanding some half decent money. If he does then off course there are quite a few options for him - but just not the vibe I have got.

He’ll get a couple of wins then take the Alan Babic before Christmas nailed on !

Read a long feature in Boxing News in April with him saying among the reasons for his retirement that he’s 28 but an old 28 in boxing terms. Now less than 5 months later he wants to resume his career.

Listen if he can get the fights good luck to him. His career has been fun to watch down the years.

Ladbrokes still not paid me out for that Darch win either! Absolute disgrace we must be talking 18 month now since there boxed?

Floydendizer wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 12:36 He’ll get a couple of wins then take the Alan Babic before Christmas nailed on !

Yeah, I can't see him taking too many of these 6 round paydays before the lure of DAZN money becomes too much.

I'd imagine Babic would beat him very quickly, I'm not sure he will have the same appeal now as once you drop off of the radar you get forgotten

TheGoods wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 13:14 Read a long feature in Boxing News in April with him saying among the reasons for his retirement that he’s 28 but an old 28 in boxing terms. Now less than 5 months later he wants to resume his career.

Listen if he can get the fights good luck to him. His career has been fun to watch down the years.

Ladbrokes still not paid me out for that Darch win either! Absolute disgrace we must be talking 18 month now since there boxed?

28 - circa 80 is a long retirement !

TheGoods wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 13:14 Read a long feature in Boxing News in April with him saying among the reasons for his retirement that he’s 28 but an old 28 in boxing terms. Now less than 5 months later he wants to resume his career.

Listen if he can get the fights good luck to him. His career has been fun to watch down the years.

Ladbrokes still not paid me out for that Darch win either! Absolute disgrace we must be talking 18 month now since there boxed?

Mabey send a follow up email to ladbrokes mate.... its been at least 18 months. surely even if they are sus on it they have to pay, as long as yo didnt lump 10 grand on the round...

tony1234 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 14:44 I'd imagine Babic would beat him very quickly, I'm not sure he will have the same appeal now as once you drop off of the radar you get forgotten

Think he would need to get on a role befor there would be a desire to see babic. Id rather see him fight 4 or 5 rank journyman and just get in the wins for a bit. Nice if he could convince tom little to also come back and get a couple of soft wins.

If both back in the wins, Alen vs tom little is as fun a fight as you can make at the levle i want to see allen for abit. Nice if someone could put the bribes in and get the english on the line for it when wardly finaly drops it (when joe drops brittish). i know theres better prospects to win it, but give one of the boys that has had to fight killers a bit of fun rather than some spoon fed prospect...

Dave is a very tough man and would have to have slipped a lot for Babic to go through him very quickly. Ortiz didn't.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 16:56 Dave is a very tough man and would have to have slipped a lot for Babic to go through him very quickly. Ortiz didn't.

Yeah provided he doesn’t get on the scales looking like he’s had another training camp at the pub then I’d say he beats Babic.

jameswilson wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 14:55

mickey1975 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2021, 16:56 Dave is a very tough man and would have to have slipped a lot for Babic to go through him very quickly. Ortiz didn't.

Yeah provided he doesn’t get on the scales looking like he’s had another training camp at the pub then I’d say he beats Babic.

I think it depends if Babic can take a punch. Allen isn’t a particularly good boxer but has a good chin and decent power. He was being lit up by Webb before he landed a peach of a shot and I thought he even lost the first round against a past or Browne too.

I’d rather Allen stayed retired as he takes too many shots and has had several sustained beatings by hard hitters.

we are all expecting babby to gas if he cant ko a guy............but if he goes in there realizing allen has a good chin and adjusts his workrate, he could just win a decision too. at that level allen doesnt really win rounds against guys, he basically loses everything until getting beat or getting a come from behind

babic throw a ton vs bennet and still seemed to have energy after 5 rounds, so maybe his staminas not terrible either

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 15:19

babic throw a ton vs bennet and still seemed to have energy after 5 rounds, so maybe his staminas not terrible either

young gf/fiancé will do that to a man

I was fully expecting Babic to gas vs Bennet. He didn't. Allen was gassing vs Price at a much slower general pace.
I don't think Dave Allen can hang with Babic. Yes he has a good chin, but the barrage coming from Babic I fear will be too much.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 16:00 I was fully expecting Babic to gas vs Bennet. He didn't. Allen was gassing vs Price at a much slower general pace.
I don't think Dave Allen can hang with Babic. Yes he has a good chin, but the barrage coming from Babic I fear will be too much.

Price is a bit better than Bennett.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 15:19 we are all expecting babby to gas if he cant ko a guy............but if he goes in there realizing allen has a good chin and adjusts his workrate, he could just win a decision too. at that level allen doesnt really win rounds against guys, he basically loses everything until getting beat or getting a come from behind

babic throw a ton vs bennet and still seemed to have energy after 5 rounds, so maybe his staminas not terrible either

If they fight in the next year (they shouldent) then babic likely wins by early still standing KO. What ref in there mind is going to be the one that allen gets properly pickled too under their supervision. re has retired citing lingering concussion issues, if babic is pasting him and his chin is holding up refs jumping in or towls coming flying. think babic would know this and rather than box, brawl but pull a bit of power so he can maintain crazy volume till reg cant let it go.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 16:02

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 16:00 I was fully expecting Babic to gas vs Bennet. He didn't. Allen was gassing vs Price at a much slower general pace.
I don't think Dave Allen can hang with Babic. Yes he has a good chin, but the barrage coming from Babic I fear will be too much.

Price is a bit better than Bennett.

sure, though not like allen was working a lot in that fight yet still seemed pretty gassed

i remember the play by play....ppl kept expecting price to tire, then all of a sudden its allen looking tanked

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 16:13

mickey1975 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 16:02

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 16:00 I was fully expecting Babic to gas vs Bennet. He didn't. Allen was gassing vs Price at a much slower general pace.
I don't think Dave Allen can hang with Babic. Yes he has a good chin, but the barrage coming from Babic I fear will be too much.

Price is a bit better than Bennett.

sure, though not like allen was working a lot in that fight yet still seemed pretty gassed

i remember the play by play....ppl kept expecting price to tire, then all of a sudden its allen looking tanked

Yes it was a lot slower paced than Babic vs Bennet. And yes Price is a better operator, but not as busy by a long way

mickey1975 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 16:02

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 16:00 I was fully expecting Babic to gas vs Bennet. He didn't. Allen was gassing vs Price at a much slower general pace.
I don't think Dave Allen can hang with Babic. Yes he has a good chin, but the barrage coming from Babic I fear will be too much.

Price is a bit better than Bennett.

Yes but I bet he wishes he had Bennett 's chin

mickey1975 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 16:02

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 16:00 I was fully expecting Babic to gas vs Bennet. He didn't. Allen was gassing vs Price at a much slower general pace.
I don't think Dave Allen can hang with Babic. Yes he has a good chin, but the barrage coming from Babic I fear will be too much.

Price is a bit better than Bennett.

Price is 10 times better at boxing, with 10 times more power and about 1/50th the chin…