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Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 27 Aug 2021, 04:42
by Ruthless-RKO
Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations Have Slowed Down

There are ongoing discussions for a heavyweight clash between New Zealand's Junior Fa and rising Australian contender Justis Huni.

Fa, 19-1, is coming off the first defeat of his pro career - a decision loss to former heavyweight champion Joseph Parker in February.

Huni, in only the fifth fight of his career, picked up a ten round stoppage victory over Paul Gallen in June.

The unbeaten prospect was then forced of the Olympic games in Tokyo, as he needed surgery on his hand after the Gallen fight.

Huni's promoter, Dean Lonergan, views the bout with Fa as the springboard clash to gaining credibility for his boxer.

Both sides are trying to work out a deal for February or March of 2022.

Fa is co-promoted by Lou DiBella of the United States and Brendan Bourke of Australia.

As far as getting the deal done, Bourke indicates the ball is in Lonergan's court.

"Lonergan’s been talking a lot of hot air, but we still don’t have a contract and things have stalled," Bourke said to Sporting News.

“There are about five or six sticking points that neither team are willing to move on – location is one of them – and percentage splits, things like that. The big concern is about the fight itself. There are levels to this game. We know Justis is a fine young fighter, lots of potential, but Junior Fa is seasoned. He’s had 20 pro bouts and the only loss he’s had is at world championship level against Joseph Parker.

“Lonergan has a great young fighter, but I don’t know why they’re rushing him so fast. Junior will give him more than he can handle. I can’t see Huni winning the fight and I think they’re realizing that and they’re getting cold feet. As it gets a bit closer, I honestly think they’ve got cold feet. Negotiations have slowed, they were supposed to put forth a head of agreement, which never came.”

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 27 Aug 2021, 05:04
by Grant
Huni didn't really impress me against Gallen.
I think he will be easy to hit. But what do I know

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 27 Aug 2021, 09:24
by Marlin
This is a fight that makes sense for both parties, both fighters will be confident and there is upside for both if they win. Could Fa be a springboard to Parker for Huni? Or will Huni be a credible bounce back for Fa? Hopefully time will tell!

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 09:57
by belta53
Huni is 22 years old. What is the rush with him? Give him some different style opponents, guys he can look good against and guys that will pose him a few problems without being a realistic chance of winning.

Early in 2022 he may or may not beat Junior Fa, but to me at this stage of his career this is not the right fight.

Get him to 10-0 and gradually step up the level of opposition. Then by say mid 2023 he will be in a better position to fight the likes of Junior Fa.

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 11:04
by Ruthless-RKO
belta53 wrote: 30 Aug 2021, 09:57 Huni is 22 years old. What is the rush with him? Give him some different style opponents, guys he can look good against and guys that will pose him a few problems without being a realistic chance of winning.

Early in 2022 he may or may not beat Junior Fa, but to me at this stage of his career this is not the right fight.

Get him to 10-0 and gradually step up the level of opposition. Then by say mid 2023 he will be in a better position to fight the likes of Junior Fa.
Yeh but that’s how old Parker was I think he started stepping up a little.

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 17:50
by fox
I was refereeing and judging at a show in Brisbane on Friday and Huni mentioned that fight will materialise in 2022. Still had a brace on his hand so I don’t think it will happen in the near future. Pretty good fight.

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 18:31
by margaret thatcher
i would f@cking love fa vs huni , serious step up for a serious prospect , would show a lot of confidence in him from his team :bag:

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 18:41
by Marlin
Thank for the insight fox.

Boxing needs more fights like this. One the major reasons MMA has gained so much ground on boxing is the prolonged padding of records in boxing. MMA matches its fighters way more competitively way earlier in their careers and it has propelled the sport forward. Because of this they also accept a few losses on a record far more than boxing does. If boxing could have more competitive fight AND sort out the ridiculous judging in some fights it would do it the world of good.

If this fight happens bravo to both camps!

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 22:28
by belta53
We'd all like to see more 50-50 fights, but with young prospects if they are going to have a long career and fight at the highest level they need to be stepped up slowly. Do you think if Top Rank where promoting Huni they would be throwing him in with Junior Fa at 23 years old and with less than 10 pro fights under his belt?

Look what happened to Liam Wilson when his promoter jumped him up a number of levels to take on a world class operator after only 9 fights.

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 22:48
by margaret thatcher
huni is much better than wilson imo

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 31 Aug 2021, 00:14
by belta53
Huni being a HW has much more upside than Wilson (super feather) from a promotional perspective.

I've watched quite a bit of Huni, he looks solid with good speed for a HW. The knockdown to Jalolov in his amateur days did not look great, Jalolov obviously went on to win the gold medal in Tokyo. I wonder about Huni against those tall HW's (Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, Jalolov types), he will be giving away a lot in reach and height.

Being only 22 there is plenty of time for him to mature and work his way up the HW ranks.

You'd hope that the decision making in the Huni camp improves, allowing him to fight two times in three weeks less than two months before the Olympics with a hand injury doesn't look that smart now.

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 31 Aug 2021, 01:58
by Beltane
Here is another media release about Huni's future intentions. One seems to get the impression that his corner seems to be in a bit of a hurry for that elusive fame and fortune. He does not need to be over-matched at this stage of his career.
Fresh off the disappointment of his Tokyo Games withdrawal, Australian heavyweight Justis Huni is eyeing a trans-Tasman showdown early next year, before a UK trip that could see the 22-year-old represent his country, and further his professional career.

Huni was forced out of the Olympics after injuring his hand in a whirlwind few months that climaxed with a win over Paul Gallen in Sydney.

Now, the question is simple: what’s next?

According to promoter Dean Lonergan, the answer is starting to take shape.

Lonergan revealed to foxsports.com.au that a bout in late February with Kiwi heavyweight Junior Fa is almost agreed, with a spot on Australia’s Commonwealth Games team also a priority for 2022.

Huni will need to qualify at the start of next year for the chance to represent Australia, with a showdown with Fa set to follow almost immediately.

The Games, which’ll be held in Birmingham, will also be the perfect opportunity, according to Lonergan, to set Huni up against one of the many bruising heavyweights over in the UK and Europe.

It’s a great way to launch Justis up there,” Lonergan said, “to come out of that [Commonwealth Games] into a big fight.”

Names like Derek Chisora, Daniel Dubois, Joe Joyce, and French heavyweight Tony Yoka were floated by Lonergan, with the promoter confident Huni will be coming off a gold medal win.

After that, the goal will be Paris, which’ll be the “hardest part”, according to Rocki Huni — Justis’ father and trainer — as the 22-year-old juggles the amateur and professional world of boxing.

According to Rocki, Justis watched on as long-time friend Harry Garside won Australia’s first medal in boxing in 33 years, and it “put that fire back in his belly”.

“He was devastated [to miss out],” Rocki said of Justis, who has his sights now set on 2024.

First, though, Huni’s recovery must continue, before a showdown with Fa (19-1); a 196cm beast whose only career loss came via decision against former world champion Joseph Parker.

Right now, Lonergan is looking at either Sydney or Brisbane for the fight, with Sydney the frontrunner.

“He wants that fight bad,” Rocki said. “Justis wants to beat Junior Fa, but [more than that], he wants to stop him.”

Huni is back training with everything other than that injured right hand, which Rocki believes will be punching again in late November or December

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 31 Aug 2021, 02:11
by belta53
Lonergan is just feeding the gullible Australian press and public what they want to hear.

Who seriously thinks that Justis Huni will be ready for the likes of Joyce, Dubois, Chisora or Yoka in the next year? These guys are seasoned professionals who are at or very close to world-title level.

What sort of deal has Huni signed with Lonergan? why the rush with a 22 year old HW?

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 22 Sep 2021, 21:58
by KiwiRider
If Huni loses, it ain't the end of the world.
I've been to a few Fa fights and from the sounds of his shots, he ain't that heavy a hitter, well, nit since he trimmed down anyway. Before that he was a thudder.

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 03 Nov 2021, 00:41
by Beltane
Justis Huni now plans to have an astonishing seven fights in 2022, having announced he will no longer attempt to compete at the Commonwealth Games and instead focus on his professional career. All of which confirms there is not much moolah in the amateur ranks.

A showdown against Kiwi rival Junior Fa is close to being signed for April, but Huni will first make his return from hand surgery in January or February. Is this a case of too much, too soon taking on Fa!

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 17:51
by coneye
Beltane wrote: 03 Nov 2021, 00:41 Justis Huni now plans to have an astonishing seven fights in 2022, having announced he will no longer attempt to compete at the Commonwealth Games and instead focus on his professional career. All of which confirms there is not much moolah in the amateur ranks.

A showdown against Kiwi rival Junior Fa is close to being signed for April, but Huni will first make his return from hand surgery in January or February. Is this a case of too much, too soon taking on Fa!
Changing thre minds rushing things ,, sounds like there in a bit of limbo and not too sure what to do with him ,, From what i see of him , my take is they have to decide first ameteur or pro .
Now he's fast , and quite smooth ,, all good in the ameteurs , , but does'nt carry too much power , no good in the pro's ,,, So have him bulk a bit , sit on punches more ,, all good in pro's , not too good for the ameteurs .

Now theyve settled on pro's , what to do he's good , but he's not a monster when in with the real big boys ,, rush him ,, slow him down ,what do you do , he'll be what 23 next year , Hughie Fury is around the same age , he's fighting top blokes ,, but not outstanding his he ,

Hard one , problem i see is where he lives ,, does he want to be rich , then keep him here , rematch Gallen ,, bring in cannon fodder from the states , rip of the PPV public in Aust , just basicly be a big fish in a small pond , many others have done it , he's more than markatable to do the same .

But wanna , be world champ , top 3-4-5 in the world , LEAVE go overseas , try your luck in the states or Britain where he can get the top sparring , Aaaargggh descisions descisions

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 06 Nov 2021, 03:52
by gregregegg
coneye wrote: 05 Nov 2021, 17:51
Beltane wrote: 03 Nov 2021, 00:41 Justis Huni now plans to have an astonishing seven fights in 2022, having announced he will no longer attempt to compete at the Commonwealth Games and instead focus on his professional career. All of which confirms there is not much moolah in the amateur ranks.

A showdown against Kiwi rival Junior Fa is close to being signed for April, but Huni will first make his return from hand surgery in January or February. Is this a case of too much, too soon taking on Fa!
Changing thre minds rushing things ,, sounds like there in a bit of limbo and not too sure what to do with him ,, From what i see of him , my take is they have to decide first ameteur or pro .
Now he's fast , and quite smooth ,, all good in the ameteurs , , but does'nt carry too much power , no good in the pro's ,,, So have him bulk a bit , sit on punches more ,, all good in pro's , not too good for the ameteurs .

Now theyve settled on pro's , what to do he's good , but he's not a monster when in with the real big boys ,, rush him ,, slow him down ,what do you do , he'll be what 23 next year , Hughie Fury is around the same age , he's fighting top blokes ,, but not outstanding his he ,

Hard one , problem i see is where he lives ,, does he want to be rich , then keep him here , rematch Gallen ,, bring in cannon fodder from the states , rip of the PPV public in Aust , just basicly be a big fish in a small pond , many others have done it , he's more than markatable to do the same .

But wanna , be world champ , top 3-4-5 in the world , LEAVE go overseas , try your luck in the states or Britain where he can get the top sparring , Aaaargggh descisions descisions
Dont think he will have to work on his power. bit more will trickle in with age. hughie is 27, huni is 22. not about the same age.

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 06 Nov 2021, 08:17
by coneye
gregregegg wrote: 06 Nov 2021, 03:52
coneye wrote: 05 Nov 2021, 17:51
Beltane wrote: 03 Nov 2021, 00:41 Justis Huni now plans to have an astonishing seven fights in 2022, having announced he will no longer attempt to compete at the Commonwealth Games and instead focus on his professional career. All of which confirms there is not much moolah in the amateur ranks.

A showdown against Kiwi rival Junior Fa is close to being signed for April, but Huni will first make his return from hand surgery in January or February. Is this a case of too much, too soon taking on Fa!
Changing thre minds rushing things ,, sounds like there in a bit of limbo and not too sure what to do with him ,, From what i see of him , my take is they have to decide first ameteur or pro .
Now he's fast , and quite smooth ,, all good in the ameteurs , , but does'nt carry too much power , no good in the pro's ,,, So have him bulk a bit , sit on punches more ,, all good in pro's , not too good for the ameteurs .

Now theyve settled on pro's , what to do he's good , but he's not a monster when in with the real big boys ,, rush him ,, slow him down ,what do you do , he'll be what 23 next year , Hughie Fury is around the same age , he's fighting top blokes ,, but not outstanding his he ,

Hard one , problem i see is where he lives ,, does he want to be rich , then keep him here , rematch Gallen ,, bring in cannon fodder from the states , rip of the PPV public in Aust , just basicly be a big fish in a small pond , many others have done it , he's more than markatable to do the same .

But wanna , be world champ , top 3-4-5 in the world , LEAVE go overseas , try your luck in the states or Britain where he can get the top sparring , Aaaargggh descisions descisions
Dont think he will have to work on his power. bit more will trickle in with age. hughie is 27, huni is 22. not about the same age.
Is he 27 now ,, The years have just flew by ,, Still at a younger age he was pushing it at a higher level , I think he will have to work on his power , was,nt excatly smashing a 40 year old easy to hit Rugby player out in a rnd or so ,, But we'll see , i do forecast he'll end up quite a wealthy fella , and good on him

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 07 Nov 2021, 01:19
by margaret thatcher
hughie is one of these guys, that he'll be 45 and people will still talk about he'll improve when he matures :lol:

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 07 Nov 2021, 03:19
by coneye
margaret thatcher wrote: 07 Nov 2021, 01:19 hughie is one of these guys, that he'll be 45 and people will still talk about he'll improve when he matures :lol:
Especielly his Dad , :lol: :lol:

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 15 Dec 2021, 23:06
by Beltane
Looks like the mooted May 2022 showdown between Huni and Junior Fa looks to have fallen over, with Huni’s promoter Dean Lonergan and Fa’s manager Mark Keddell bickering over fight dates and money.

Lonergan said Fa’s camp had made too many demands, and it would cost too much to stage the fight and pay everyone.

Keddell said Lonergan keeps moving the date of the fight and believes he wants to replace Fa with Lucas Browne for the May fight.

One for the "too hard" basket!

Re: Junior Fa vs. Justis Huni - Negotiations

Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 15:41
by mikebourkefan
sad that money negotiations again got in the way of another boxing match. i like Junior Fa and have not seen Justis Huni