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luck
Posted: 14 Sep 2021, 23:58
by margaret thatcher
what are examples of genuine luck youve seen in the ring
i always remember a kickboxing one night tournament. a guy got ko'd in his frst fight, but his opponent was injured and couldnt continue, so the loser got his spot in the semifinals. then in the semis, his opponent injured their own leg while throwing a kick, so the guy moved to the finals. then in the finals, the guy was down 2-0 in a 3 round fight, and his opponent injures their arm throwing a punch and cant continue, so dude wins the tournament without having won a round all night
some ppl say luck doesnt exist in the ring, absolute bullsheet
Re: luck
Posted: 14 Sep 2021, 23:59
by margaret thatcher
james kirkland, down on points (though rallying) gets a dq win when carlos molinas trainer enters the ring like 1 second before the bell rings at the end of the round
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 00:01
by margaret thatcher
tony bellew, down on all the score cards and losing rounds by increasingly large margin, when david hayes achilles snaps. funny how some try to rewrite this one!
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 00:22
by margaret thatcher
luis santana, winning 2x on dq vs the vastly superior terry norris
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 01:05
by gregregegg
Charles Martins world title win, whyte a head clash on parker, Frankos phantom headbut decision
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 02:09
by bigjack
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 00:01
tony bellew, down on all the score cards and losing rounds by increasingly large margin, when david hayes achilles snaps. funny how some try to rewrite this one!
Many 'experst' on here claimed Haye would ko Bellew with the very first right hand he landed,even 30 seconds in the first round,many said the same thing before the rematch.
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 02:20
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 00:01
tony bellew, down on all the score cards and losing rounds by increasingly large margin, when david hayes achilles snaps. funny how some try to rewrite this one!
And then when it was stopped Hearn buzzing saying Bellew was up at the time of stoppage..
How many rounds did Haye fight on after he snapped it? I remember many saying Bellew couldn’t finish off a crippled Haye in the ring.
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 03:06
by (craig)
I remember sitting in a bar in Greece by myself stone cold sober watching a group of 'fellow Brits' celebrating Lennox getting the W over Vitali due to a cut and thinking 'you lucky sod'
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 03:19
by margaret thatcher
bigjack wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 02:09
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 00:01
tony bellew, down on all the score cards and losing rounds by increasingly large margin, when david hayes achilles snaps. funny how some try to rewrite this one!
Many 'experst' on here claimed Haye would ko Bellew with the very first right hand he landed,even 30 seconds in the first round,many said the same thing before the rematch.
those are bad predictions , not really rewriting history tbf , although if someone repeats something enough ppl start to believe it
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Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 03:20
by margaret thatcher
gregregegg wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 01:05
Charles Martins world title win, whyte a head clash on parker, Frankos phantom headbut decision
lol the charles martin one was funny, i agree it was luck, but i remember a few ppl it was his skillful movement that made glazkov injure himself
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 04:28
by mickey1975
Callum Smith's route to the Ali trophy.
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 04:55
by Foggy
Torres Holt - didnt Torres Ko himself by hitting Holts head?
A punch landed on the ropes but Torres was already dazed
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 07:08
by margaret thatcher
Foggy wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 04:55
Torres Holt - didnt Torres Ko himself by hitting Holts head?
A punch landed on the ropes but Torres was already dazed
ya for sure, that was a shady outcome, the headbutt defo put him out on his feet, ref shoulda stepped in
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 07:16
by gp.
(craig) wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 03:06
I remember sitting in a bar in Greece by myself stone cold sober watching a group of 'fellow Brits' celebrating Lennox getting the W over Vitali due to a cut and thinking 'you lucky sod'
Is that luck? Lewis caused the cut with punches, doing what he was supposed to do. It's not the same as someone breaking their ankle because their foot slips.
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 07:17
by gp.
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 03:20
gregregegg wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 01:05
Charles Martins world title win, whyte a head clash on parker, Frankos phantom headbut decision
lol the charles martin one was funny, i agree it was luck, but i remember a few ppl it was his skillful movement that made glazkov injure himself
I think Martin's subsequent career has put the record straight on his "skilful movement"
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 07:18
by margaret thatcher
think some of the yanks were just excited to have a champ at the time

Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 07:38
by (craig)
gp. wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 07:16
(craig) wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 03:06
I remember sitting in a bar in Greece by myself stone cold sober watching a group of 'fellow Brits' celebrating Lennox getting the W over Vitali due to a cut and thinking 'you lucky sod'
Is that luck? Lewis caused the cut with punches, doing what he was supposed to do. It's not the same as someone breaking their ankle because their foot slips.
No the cut was not lucky but that Lennox was blowing out of his backside and down on all the cards it felt like a lucky escape to me.
Watching the fight back over the years I do feel Lewis was getting back into the fight.
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 08:31
by JamesPhilips
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(craig) wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 07:38
gp. wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 07:16
(craig) wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 03:06
I remember sitting in a bar in Greece by myself stone cold sober watching a group of 'fellow Brits' celebrating Lennox getting the W over Vitali due to a cut and thinking 'you lucky sod'
Is that luck? Lewis caused the cut with punches, doing what he was supposed to do. It's not the same as someone breaking their ankle because their foot slips.
No the cut was not lucky but that Lennox was blowing out of his backside and down on all the cards it felt like a lucky escape to me.
Watching the fight back over the years I do feel Lewis was getting back into the fight.
I felt Lennox was exhausted. When the fight was called off he barely celebrated. Vitali went nuts. Vitali would’ve stopped Lennox late without the cut but the cut was caused by Lennox punches so can’t dispute the result.
Pail Smith was ‘lucky’ to get so many big fights….
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 08:31
by JamesPhilips
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(craig) wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 07:38
gp. wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 07:16
(craig) wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 03:06
I remember sitting in a bar in Greece by myself stone cold sober watching a group of 'fellow Brits' celebrating Lennox getting the W over Vitali due to a cut and thinking 'you lucky sod'
Is that luck? Lewis caused the cut with punches, doing what he was supposed to do. It's not the same as someone breaking their ankle because their foot slips.
No the cut was not lucky but that Lennox was blowing out of his backside and down on all the cards it felt like a lucky escape to me.
Watching the fight back over the years I do feel Lewis was getting back into the fight.
I felt Lennox was exhausted. When the fight was called off he barely celebrated. Vitali went nuts. Vitali would’ve stopped Lennox late without the cut but the cut was caused by Lennox punches so can’t dispute the result.
Paul Smith was ‘lucky’ to get so many big fights….
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 09:16
by DrDuke
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 08:31
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(craig) wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 07:38
gp. wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 07:16
Is that luck? Lewis caused the cut with punches, doing what he was supposed to do. It's not the same as someone breaking their ankle because their foot slips.
No the cut was not lucky but that Lennox was blowing out of his backside and down on all the cards it felt like a lucky escape to me.
Watching the fight back over the years I do feel Lewis was getting back into the fight.
I felt Lennox was exhausted. When the fight was called off he barely celebrated. Vitali went nuts. Vitali would’ve stopped Lennox late without the cut but the cut was caused by Lennox punches so can’t dispute the result.
Pail Smith was ‘lucky’ to get so many big fights….
Vitali was exhausted too. He couldn't even normally stand in the final round, he looked bothered by Lewis' shots and was trying too hold on. Where was that confidence before the bell and stoppage? I think, it was Lewis, who was going towards a KO win.
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 11:32
by dookus
DrDuke wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 09:16
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 08:31
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(craig) wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 07:38
No the cut was not lucky but that Lennox was blowing out of his backside and down on all the cards it felt like a lucky escape to me.
Watching the fight back over the years I do feel Lewis was getting back into the fight.
I felt Lennox was exhausted. When the fight was called off he barely celebrated. Vitali went nuts. Vitali would’ve stopped Lennox late without the cut but the cut was caused by Lennox punches so can’t dispute the result.
Pail Smith was ‘lucky’ to get so many big fights….
Vitali was exhausted too. He couldn't even normally stand in the final round, he looked bothered by Lewis' shots and was trying too hold on. Where was that confidence before the bell and stoppage? I think, it was Lewis, who was going towards a KO win.
I agree. There was one shot in particular towards the end of the 6th, a short right hook to the temple I think, after which Vitali staggered into holding Lewis, and wouldn't let him go despite being led halfway round the ring. Then the bell went and he took forever to get back to his corner. It's easier to act like that when you know the fight's over.
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 12:32
by Noxy
(craig) wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 03:06
I remember sitting in a bar in Greece by myself stone cold sober watching a group of 'fellow Brits' celebrating Lennox getting the W over Vitali due to a cut and thinking 'you lucky sod'
Anyone who beat Lewis was lucky. Just ask Lennox.
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 14:30
by Steveh583
(craig) wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 03:06
I remember sitting in a bar in Greece by myself stone cold sober watching a group of 'fellow Brits' celebrating Lennox getting the W over Vitali due to a cut and thinking 'you lucky sod'
i thought lennox was bringing it at the time of the stoppage. slowly getting on top and finding a home for those uppercuts.
Re: luck
Posted: 15 Sep 2021, 15:38
by (craig)
Steveh583 wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 14:30
(craig) wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 03:06
I remember sitting in a bar in Greece by myself stone cold sober watching a group of 'fellow Brits' celebrating Lennox getting the W over Vitali due to a cut and thinking 'you lucky sod'
i thought lennox was bringing it at the time of the stoppage. slowly getting on top and finding a home for those uppercuts.
Yeah I agree, I did post again after that initial post saying in hindsight I thought Lewis was starting to get to Vitali. I do wish they would've did it again though.
Re: luck
Posted: 16 Sep 2021, 06:06
by bennie
Greg "Mutt" Haugen got lucky in defence of his IBF lightweight title against Puerto Rico's Miguel Santana back in 1988. Haugen started well and built up a lead but Santana weathered the storm and was hammering an exhausted Haugen when the fighters clashed heads in the 11th round of a 15-rounder. Haugen was too badly cut to continue but two of the judges had him ahead and he hung on to his belt.