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The 1 step away from world champion status ???????????

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 08:50
by Foggy
I know Bomber Graham was a brilliant fighter but never won the world title but can you guys give me some more names of British fighters who were world class but never won a world title, cheers

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 08:54
by JC
Dave "Boy" Green at welterweight.

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 09:00
by stujones
Chris Finnighan

Billy Schwer

Dave Charnley

Kirklaind Laing

Colin Jones

Michael Watson

Spencer Oliver (IMO)

Crawford Ashley

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 09:03
by Wales
ricky hatton, joe calzaghe

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 09:05
by JC
Wales wrote:ricky hatton, joe calzaghe
I was just thinking that :TU:

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 09:13
by MightyWarrior
Johnny Owen
Tony Sibson
Pat Cowdell

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 09:14
by Foggy
Wales wrote:ricky hatton, joe calzaghe
I knew that Ricky's name would appear

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 09:35
by jamesmcdonnell
stujones wrote:Chris Finnighan

Billy Schwer

Dave Charnley

Kirklaind Laing

Colin Jones

Michael Watson

Spencer Oliver (IMO)

Crawford Ashley

I had a pissed-dancing competition with Billy Schwer the other week, not sure who won, but he was certianly enjoying himself. Nice bloke.

Add Michael Ayers.

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 09:36
by nickd
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I had a pissed-dancing competition with Billy Schwer the other week
What? Where did this happen? ;)

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 09:37
by jamesmcdonnell
Some after fight party. He certainly likes a jig.

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 10:47
by Neri
Shea Neary

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 11:08
by chief
Henry Cooper..

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 11:30
by s9s
J-C wrote:Dave "Boy" Green at welterweight.
A good honest fighter, but world class? He got flattend in both attempts.

Another world class fighter was kirkland Laing, but he never had the desire or determination.

Colin Jones would have easily been world champion in todays state of the game, but he also was very close in the 80's.

Errol Christie had the skills but no chin.

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 11:35
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
stujones wrote:Chris Finnighan

Billy Schwer

Dave Charnley

Kirklaind Laing

Colin Jones

Michael Watson

Spencer Oliver (IMO)

Crawford Ashley
Watson had the WBO didnt he?

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 11:37
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
What about Ray Close? Should've got the decision against Eubank.

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 11:44
by MightyWarrior
Michael Brodie....not over yet though.

Billy Hardy was very unlucky to lose a split decision in his hometown to world champ Orlando Canizalez. Shows what a puncher Naz was to take him out so easily a few years later.

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 11:47
by knockout
terry dunstan

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 12:06
by JimStone
Patrick "Black Flash" Barrett .

Posted: 11 Feb 2005, 14:21
by KOJOE90
How about Rochdales finest?

Jock McAvoy?

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=017906

Posted: 12 Feb 2005, 08:49
by AlexY2K4
They weren't GREATS, but The likes of Chris Eubank, Joe Calzaghe, Michael Watson and Ricky Hatton all have/had the ability to at least have won titles.

Sorry but WBO/WBU don't count.

Posted: 12 Feb 2005, 14:25
by stujones
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:What about Ray Close? Should've got the decision against Eubank.
In which outing? Cause I completely disagree on either. The second one was closer than the first.

Posted: 12 Feb 2005, 15:08
by steve689
I think it just puts things into perspective about the state of affairs in today's game when you realise that guys like Henry Cooper, Jock McAvoy, Tony Sibson etc could never call themselves World Champions and we just had a relative novice in Steve Foster Jnr win that WBU thing
:(

Posted: 12 Feb 2005, 16:24
by tonyevs
Sunderlands John Davison, very very unlucky :cry:

Posted: 12 Feb 2005, 20:14
by stujones
Disagree with John, he was unlucky in a WBO title fight against a fighter who came in on 48 hours notice. I would call John Davidson world class, probably on the fringes.

A fighter who had the talent just lacked that something and I think does belong here is David Starie.

Dean Francis is another certainty, but never had the world title fight.

Henry Wharton?

Posted: 12 Feb 2005, 20:57
by JC
"Peerless" Jem Driscoll,

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=010731

Although he never fought for the title, and if he had he would have had to face the great Abe Attell, by all accounts he deserves to be called "World Class."