It will come, just taking longer than hoped as Truss was in charge of signing up to new trade deals.
Brexit isn't the problem, it's a Tory Brexit.
It’s a Tory country, that’s why it was so obvious Brexit would be rubbish.
Was Brexit ever based on a left wing platform? I don’t remember the campaigning being about left wing policies. Brexit was championed mainly by right wing politicians
The guff about cheaper clothes and food wasn’t based on subsidies by governments, it was false claims based on trade deals with cheaper supply chains from other parts of the world
Meanwhile in the remoaners beloved EU, riots breaking out in France again. Mad Mac pushing through pension changes without a vote, the undemocratic way the evil EU empire love to do things. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64967516
IRONFIST wrote: ↑17 Mar 2023, 11:05
Meanwhile in the remoaners beloved EU, riots breaking out in France again. Mad Mac pushing through pension changes without a vote, the undemocratic way the evil EU empire love to do things. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64967516
These are French national issues, no? Being made independent of their EU membership? Like a sovereign nation?
IRONFIST wrote: ↑17 Mar 2023, 11:05
Meanwhile in the remoaners beloved EU, riots breaking out in France again. Mad Mac pushing through pension changes without a vote, the undemocratic way the evil EU empire love to do things. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64967516
Almost as if, in your tiny mind, none of what the tories have done to the country, especially since 2016, has happened. But hey, you keep on posting hilarious stuff like the above if it's a form of therapy for you. Oh, and as for those 'riots', I applaud the french people for standing up for themselves unlike us brits who just shrug our shoulders and accept being exploited by the rich. And another thing, in this 'democracy' we live in even peaceful protests will be criminalised soon. Toodle pip subservient pleb.
IRONFIST wrote: ↑17 Mar 2023, 11:05
Meanwhile in the remoaners beloved EU, riots breaking out in France again. Mad Mac pushing through pension changes without a vote, the undemocratic way the evil EU empire love to do things. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64967516
Almost as if, in your tiny mind, none of what the tories have done to the country, especially since 2016, has happened. But hey, you keep on posting hilarious stuff like the above if it's a form of therapy for you. Oh, and as for those 'riots', I applaud the french people for standing up for themselves unlike us brits who just shrug our shoulders and accept being exploited by the rich. And another thing, in this 'democracy' we live in even peaceful protests will be criminalised soon. Toodle pip subservient pleb.
If it wasn't for the grown up tory MP's telling Johnson to do one during the last leadership race, Johnson would be PM now as the party members would have definitely voted him in against Sunak.
"Britain's plutocrats are in the world's top 5, but our poor are poorer than the poor of Slovenia."
To get rid of neo liberalism we need to strip the layers away.
Toynbee is as Blairite as they come.
Now we need to change the British government for the better.
It will be a long process but could save the world.
"Britain's plutocrats are in the world's top 5, but our poor are poorer than the poor of Slovenia."
The EU’s own policies went a long way
to impoverishing our poorest people. Food banks didn’t start after Brexit, they started after 30 plus years of EU membership. The EU can’t do a Pontius Pilate and wash their hands of the effect their neoliberal policies have had on the people at the bottom of the ladder all over Europe. You let Thatcher write the rules of the single market that’s what you get.
You must know that isn't true - The EU is almost nothing to do with our government.
They started after 13 years of Tory Rule, you vote for The Tories and their Brexit, that's what you get.
"Britain's plutocrats are in the world's top 5, but our poor are poorer than the poor of Slovenia."
The EU’s own policies went a long way
to impoverishing our poorest people. Food banks didn’t start after Brexit, they started after 30 plus years of EU membership. The EU can’t do a Pontius Pilate and wash their hands of the effect their neoliberal policies have had on the people at the bottom of the ladder all over Europe. You let Thatcher write the rules of the single market that’s what you get.
You must know that isn't true - The EU is almost nothing to do with our government.
They started after 13 years of Tory Rule, you vote for The Tories and their Brexit, that's what you get.
You are forgetting Blair before them too, he is as guilty as anyone, deregulating banks, continuing with privatisation, outsourcing NHS services!
TheRiverCityHippy wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 05:14
The EU’s own policies went a long way
to impoverishing our poorest people. Food banks didn’t start after Brexit, they started after 30 plus years of EU membership. The EU can’t do a Pontius Pilate and wash their hands of the effect their neoliberal policies have had on the people at the bottom of the ladder all over Europe. You let Thatcher write the rules of the single market that’s what you get.
You must know that isn't true - The EU is almost nothing to do with our government.
They started after 13 years of Tory Rule, you vote for The Tories and their Brexit, that's what you get.
You are forgetting Blair before them too, he is as guilty as anyone, deregulating banks, continuing with privatisation, outsourcing NHS services!
Yeah sure, he's a cnvt too and I was stretching my point blaming it all on the current shambles.
Still OUR elected (and popular) government tho' - nothing to do with The EU.
You must know that isn't true - The EU is almost nothing to do with our government.
They started after 13 years of Tory Rule, you vote for The Tories and their Brexit, that's what you get.
You are forgetting Blair before them too, he is as guilty as anyone, deregulating banks, continuing with privatisation, outsourcing NHS services!
Yeah sure, he's a cnvt too and I was stretching my point blaming it all on the current shambles.
Still OUR elected (and popular) government tho' - nothing to do with The EU.
All part of the same team.
We fought a war over democracy in Iraq, and then neoliberalist sorts like Macron bypass democracy to enact laws that take food out of folks mouths as the pie just isn't big enough for the multinationals.
You are forgetting Blair before them too, he is as guilty as anyone, deregulating banks, continuing with privatisation, outsourcing NHS services!
Yeah sure, he's a cnvt too and I was stretching my point blaming it all on the current shambles.
Still OUR elected (and popular) government tho' - nothing to do with The EU.
All part of the same team.
We fought a war over democracy in Iraq, and then neoliberalist sorts like Macron bypass democracy to enact laws that take food out of folks mouths as the pie just isn't big enough for the multinationals.
If you say so, but your Leave vote was a vote to enable and turbocharge that "same team"
It should not matter who is Tory or Labour until the middle ground merges so they are indistinguishable. A strong considered governance with equally strong opposition holding to account is all we should need.
Unfortunately or fortunately radical shifts in culture, values and identity have made any debate toxic. The prism of taking sides or retreating into tribes has taken over for now and probably forever.
SticknMove wrote: ↑18 Mar 2023, 21:21
It should not matter who is Tory or Labour until the middle ground merges so they are indistinguishable. A strong considered governance with equally strong opposition holding to account is all we should need.
Unfortunately or fortunately radical shifts in culture, values and identity have made any debate toxic. The prism of taking sides or retreating into tribes has taken over for now and probably forever.
Arsonist who set fire to his own house and blamed everyone else for it now sets fire to the only room which was saved…
Or more accurately: people who see strangers enter their house and dictate to them how to run their own household then boot out the strangers and try to keep them out.
Arsonist who set fire to his own house and blamed everyone else for it now sets fire to the only room which was saved…
Or more accurately: people who see strangers enter their house and dictate to them how to run their own household then boot out the strangers and try to keep them out.
I suspect the herd is gathering slowly but surely on Sunak and Hunt, this sell-out to the EU deal, the tax rises, the increase in pension age mimicking mad Mac alienating core voters etc etc...
IRONFIST wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 09:31
I suspect the herd is gathering slowly but surely on Sunak and Hunt, this sell-out to the EU deal, the tax rises, the increase in pension age mimicking mad Mac alienating core voters etc etc...
Even you IronWrist, EVEN YOU don't believe your nonsense.
You should seriously get a job as a PutinBot - you might as well get paid right..?
Meanwhile, another drip in the torrent of economic damage (and for what?!) caused by Brexit.
IRONFIST wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 09:31
I suspect the herd is gathering slowly but surely on Sunak and Hunt, this sell-out to the EU deal, the tax rises, the increase in pension age mimicking mad Mac alienating core voters etc etc...
Even you IronWrist, EVEN YOU don't believe your nonsense.
You should seriously get a job as a PutinBot - you might as well get paid right..?
Meanwhile, another drip in the torrent of economic damage (and for what?!) caused by Brexit.
Skanton, dip caused by EU stooges Sunak and Hunt trying to bind the hands of the UK in favour of their EU/WEF paymasters, trying to stop the UK being competitive.
IRONFIST wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 09:31
I suspect the herd is gathering slowly but surely on Sunak and Hunt, this sell-out to the EU deal, the tax rises, the increase in pension age mimicking mad Mac alienating core voters etc etc...
Even you IronWrist, EVEN YOU don't believe your nonsense.
You should seriously get a job as a PutinBot - you might as well get paid right..?
Meanwhile, another drip in the torrent of economic damage (and for what?!) caused by Brexit.
Skanton, dip caused by EU stooges Sunak and Hunt trying to bind the hands of the UK in favour of their EU/WEF paymasters, trying to stop the UK being competitive.
You should follow John Longworth on Twitter, I think you both use the same Brexit Word Salad Generator…
Skanton, dip caused by EU stooges Sunak and Hunt trying to bind the hands of the UK in favour of their EU/WEF paymasters, trying to stop the UK being competitive.
You should follow John Longworth on Twitter, I think you both use the same Brexit Word Salad Generator…
Longworth, seen some of his newspaper articles and tv interviews. He knows his onions, as for Twitter that's for twits like Lineker etc.
