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BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 18:43
by aicheligad
1. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Tyson Fury - 30(21) 0 1 - next fight: 09.10.2021 vs πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 1(1) 1 - (#3)

2. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

3. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 1(1) 1 - next fight: 09.10.2021 vs πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Tyson Fury - 30(21) 0 1 - (#1)

4. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dillian Whyte - 28(19) 2(2) 0 - next fight: 30.10.2021 vs πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ Otto Wallin - 22(14) 1(0) 0 - (#14)

5. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ Oleksandr Usyk - 19(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Joe Joyce - 13(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

8. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Michael Hunter - 20(14) 1(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

9. πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ Joseph Parker - 29(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: 18.12.2021 vs πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 11(3) 0 - (#13)

10. πŸ‡§πŸ‡¬ Kubrat Pulev - 28(14) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡Ί Luis Ortiz - 32(27) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. πŸ‡«πŸ‡· Tony Yoka - 11(9) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

13. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 11(3) 0 - next fight: 18.12.2021 vs πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ Joseph Parker - 29(21) 2(0) 0 - (#9)

14. πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ Otto Wallin - 22(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 30.10.2021 vs πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dillian Whyte - 28(19) 2(2) 0 - (#4)

15. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡΄ Γ“scar Rivas - 27(19) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 22.10.2021 vs πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Bryant Jennings - 24(14) 4(2) 0 - (unranked, inactive)

Question: How are the rankings affected by πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ Oleksandr Usyk's UD 12 win over πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Anthony Joshua?

My vote: Usyk to #1, Joshua to #3.

My vote is based on the fact that this was a better performance than any of Fury's performances and it's very recent, Fury is inactive for a lot of time and is an enigma, however, he can regain his spot soon.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 18:45
by DrDuke
Usyk to #2.

Joshua to #3.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 18:52
by gregregegg
usyk to 1. Would probably back fury to win head to head, but in the last 5 years usyk has done more.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 19:40
by Finkel
Usyk #2
Joshua #3

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 19:45
by KiwiRider
I want to put Uysk at #1, I'm so impressed. But Fury is like a big Uysk and I would give him the edge.
So :

Usyk #2.
AJ #3

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 19:57
by margaret thatcher
if wilder beats fury, do we gotta put it at 1.deonttay 2.usyk 3. fury

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 20:02
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 19:57 if wilder beats fury, do we gotta put it at 1.deonttay 2.usyk 3. fury
Hard call to make without more context. Wilder obviously can one punch a win.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 20:04
by aicheligad
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 19:57 if wilder beats fury, do we gotta put it at 1.deonttay 2.usyk 3. fury
I wouldn't put Wilder at #1. Usyk would make him look silly anyway, and Wilder still has the losses to Fury. Hope it doesn't happen though, I don't want Fury vs Wilder 4.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 20:38
by gregregegg
aicheligad wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 20:04
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 19:57 if wilder beats fury, do we gotta put it at 1.deonttay 2.usyk 3. fury
I wouldn't put Wilder at #1. Usyk would make him look silly anyway, and Wilder still has the losses to Fury. Hope it doesn't happen though, I don't want Fury vs Wilder 4.
But with that not contracted it could set up wilder vs usyk for all the belts. AJ vs fury for zero belts.... what a turn of events that would be.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 20:40
by aicheligad
gregregegg wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 20:38
aicheligad wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 20:04
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 19:57 if wilder beats fury, do we gotta put it at 1.deonttay 2.usyk 3. fury
I wouldn't put Wilder at #1. Usyk would make him look silly anyway, and Wilder still has the losses to Fury. Hope it doesn't happen though, I don't want Fury vs Wilder 4.
But with that not contracted it could set up wilder vs usyk for all the belts. AJ vs fury for zero belts.... what a turn of events that would be.
My guess is that we will never get Fury-AJ, just like we never got AJ-Wilder.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 20:59
by jezzamundo
Usyk to #2
Joshua to #3

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 21:07
by Crease
Usyk moves up to 2
AJ slides to 3

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 23:21
by CMCanavessi
Usyk 2
AJ 3

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 00:07
by oogiebe
Usyk to 2
Joshua to 4

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 02:04
by Finkel
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 19:57 if wilder beats fury, do we gotta put it at 1.deonttay 2.usyk 3. fury
Depends how he wins.
If it's by fluke injury ala Martin v Glazkov, I'd likely just move Fury down to #4.
If it's closer to Wilder v Ortiz 2, I'd move Wilder up to #2.
If it's like Wilder v Ortiz 1 or better (minus Dr interference) I'd move Wilder to #1.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 02:06
by margaret thatcher
would be funny if after almost 2 years of being looked at as a total laughingstock, wilder suddenly became #1 and fury/aj were the losers. sh!t can change quick :oo

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 03:55
by DrDuke
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 02:06 would be funny if after almost 2 years of being looked at as a total laughingstock, wilder suddenly became #1 and fury/aj were the losers. sh!t can change quick :oo
Impossible for the big dosser.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 06:25
by Ruthless-RKO
Usyk to 2
Joshua to 3

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 06:35
by morm
Usyk to 1, AJ to 3

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 07:57
by joshj909
Usyk to #1
Joshua to #3

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 09:10
by George_Jones88
Usyk to 1 Joshua to 3

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 17:45
by ironbeard
Usyk to #1

AJ to #3

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 19:11
by margaret thatcher
my head says fury should defo stay at 1

my heart says let's have some funs and change things da f@ck up. if fury wins in a couple week (or wilder does) we can still put them at the top

usyk to 1
josh to 3 (had to think a while about josh to 3 or 4, but as with fury vs usyk, wont matter really if wilder does the business vs fury)

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 21:15
by Mexi-Box
Usyk to #1.

Cleaned out CW (beat three guys that have campaigned at HW: Gassiev, Briedis, and Hunter). He has a win over Chisora and Joshua. Fury beat Wilder, but he hasn't done anything recent yet. It also didn't take Usyk 2 fights to clearly beat his rival. I know I had Fury beating Wilder clear the first time, but I do know some people did score it a draw.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs Joshua

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 21:28
by tiny_acres
Usyk to #1
Joshua has 2 loses in 27 months. Down to #4