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Angel Fernandez
Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 17:06
by garethhop
Just reading his story in Boxing News. So odd. How on earth a guy like this ends up being a pivotal guy in the Heavyweighg Champs camp I do not know.
His main claim to fame is getting in touch with Ismael Salas on Instagram but then getting blocked.
Boxing eh. Poor old Rob McCracken.
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 17:33
by Coco
Just read it online
https://nmagstars.com/en/individual-spo ... ning-team/
Maybe I will have a good chance of being in his corner for the rematch!
I saw that he said he got kicked out of Lansbury ABC, by the head coach because he was jealous of his padwork!
Adam Spelling is the gaffer there, Adam would def kick him out for being a cock! Not for jealousy over padwork though!!
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 17:47
by THEBUTCH
Is that the same Adam Spelling who boxed for St.Georges ABC (in Stepney) ? He had lovely style.
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 18:27
by Coco
THEBUTCH wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 17:47
Is that the same Adam Spelling who boxed for St.Georges ABC (in Stepney) ? He had lovely style.
Yeah that's him, nice fella too
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 06:03
by coneye
Think they would of been better off consulting and paying AJ's original ameteur trainer , than this fella , he just seems to be a chancer who's good at making internet instragram freinds ,
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 10:02
by JamesPhilips
I just read the article in boxing news. Very odd man. Blames everyone else for whatever, is constantly talking about hating people, seems to have no real background in boxing….. claims he was thrown out of gyms and blocked for being too good at pads or whatever. Claims an unbeaten 10 amateur fights….. he seems a bullsh1tter and the way he goes on, reminds me of a narcissistic fantasist. No idea why Joshua sought to have him on his team. Was it him shouting ‘brilliant boxing brilliant’ all the time? Seems the type. The Spanish Tunde.
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 10:08
by Counter-puncher
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑27 Sep 2021, 10:02
claims he was thrown out of gyms and blocked for being too good at pads or whatever.
The Spanish Tunde.

Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 12:41
by knockout
Hahaha the Spanish love child of Tunde & Fournier
What the fcuk can he bring to the camp of a Olympic golf medalist and world champion that couldn’t have been obtained from another, more proven guy.
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 28 Sep 2021, 00:18
by margaret thatcher
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 28 Sep 2021, 03:22
by Counter-puncher
I know... that whole story that coco linked, like someone says,
screams of Fournier level bullsh1t
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 28 Sep 2021, 03:32
by mickey1975
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 03:22
I know... that whole story that coco linked, like someone says,
screams of Fournier level bullsh1t
The other bloke, who kept shouting how great AJ was doing whilst getting thoroughly outboxed was from Wolverhampton apparently.
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 28 Sep 2021, 03:33
by Counter-puncher
mickey1975 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 03:32
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 03:22
I know... that whole story that coco linked, like someone says,
screams of Fournier level bullsh1t
The other bloke, who kept shouting how great AJ was doing whilst getting thoroughly outboxed was from Wolverhampton apparently.

ah well that explains a lot
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 28 Sep 2021, 03:37
by Bleak
mickey1975 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 03:32
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 03:22
I know... that whole story that coco linked, like someone says,
screams of Fournier level bullsh1t
The other bloke, who kept shouting how great AJ was doing whilst getting thoroughly outboxed was from Wolverhampton apparently.
Ben Whittaker’s mate ?
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 28 Sep 2021, 03:37
by JamesPhilips
mickey1975 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 03:32
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 03:22
I know... that whole story that coco linked, like someone says,
screams of Fournier level bullsh1t
The other bloke, who kept shouting how great AJ was doing whilst getting thoroughly outboxed was from Wolverhampton apparently.
The "brilliant boxing Aj! Brilliant! Brilliant footwork! Brilliant" man should've been told to shut up by security. Imagine how loud that must've been for those at Ringside if we could hear it so clearly on TV..... now which member of Joshua's team is from Wolverhampton?
![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 28 Sep 2021, 03:39
by mickey1975
I forgot about Whitaker. Seriously, where is AJ's head if he is watching Sandy Ryan and Ben Whitaker and deciding "I need what they're on"?
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 28 Sep 2021, 03:46
by Counter-puncher
mickey1975 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021, 03:39
I forgot about Whitaker. Seriously, where is AJ's head if he is watching Sandy Ryan and Ben Whitaker and deciding "I need what they're on"?
and what on earth does
Trainer of world champions and olympic gold medallists Robert McCracken think about all of the unqualified chancers making noise in his corner?
he surely can't be thrilled with that?
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 03:56
by SAPFO
A bit disrespectful to call them unqualified chancers. We all know local guys who know their stuff, who are not known to the masses.
Have a read. It appears AJ himself has got to know this coach watching him work other boxers in Sheffield, done a session, enjoyed it, and decided himself to take the plunge! A natural process. Is it gonna ‘fix’ him? Maybe not, but if it feels right, do it!
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 03:56
by SAPFO
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 04:02
by Counter-puncher
“Obviously, the dynamic is never going to be straightforward when there are three coaches,”
indeed
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 06:33
by JamesPhilips
This guys is the 'brilliant boxing AJ brilliant' mystery man?
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 06:40
by Counter-puncher
SAPFO wrote: ↑29 Sep 2021, 03:56
A bit disrespectful to call them unqualified chancers.
they're stroking his balls like he's peak Ali round after round whilst he's losing a fight, what else would you call them?
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 06:42
by margaret thatcher
this dude in particular is a chancer, as is anyone who says they get kicked out of gyms because theyre so good on pads

Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 06:48
by Oiky
Not sure about poor old rob mcracken, he is as much to blame in that corner as anybody, shouting to aj from the corner "great boxing" about the very basics of the game

that were very ineffective,mcracken had his man,who is more effective trying to have a raw fight, trying to outbox a far superior boxer and had absolutely no plan B at all,in a fight of that magnitude that is shocking
I think mccracken is a decent guy & a good trainer,i like his style and the way he carries himself but i think he is more suited to his role in the ams with the team gb camp,he didnt appear to show he understood the sport at all with joshua,and joshua has actually declined in ability since they are trying to make "a boxer" out of him,where he is much better as a fighter, i think Tony Sims done far better for Joshua than mccracken
Mccracken i rate in his own right,but not sure at pro level you should lack as much as he did in a f*****g fight for all the belts

if something aint working you get that through to your man in the corner as quick as you can,not keep yelling great boxing like a fanboy at what is clearly not great boxing,just the basics,against an opponent who is showing you what great boxing is!
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 07:24
by mickey1975
John Fury has decided all the corner should be sacked. He has a point.
Re: Angel Fernandez
Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 09:52
by cormack
a lot of people in boxing have come out publicly to criticise the corners performance in that fight and in particular the extras who nobody has a clue about .
McCracken should put his foot down and insist on a change .