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Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 17:54
by Glass Joe

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 19:08
by emallini
Good. Joyce won that fight.

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 19:25
by Grilling Machine
If he sets off now he should collect it by Paris 2024.

Welcome news if it happens.

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 19:28
by margaret thatcher
actually overturnedd???

yoka got tons of generous decisions though, between the worlds and the olympics. his wife got some generousity too

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 19:28
by margaret thatcher
Grilling Machine wrote: 29 Sep 2021, 19:25 If he sets off now he should collect it by Paris 2024.

Welcome news if it happens.
:OhYes:

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 29 Sep 2021, 20:58
by gregregegg
Big joe needs to get sueing everyone. if joe had an olympic gold he would have fought for a world title by now.

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 30 Sep 2021, 04:11
by Boxerbeetle
AJ currently sweating about them investigating the 2012 tournament :lol:

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 30 Sep 2021, 04:38
by high tower 1
Couldn’t believe that decision. Joyce ran over him for three rounds. Yoka couldn’t keep the big oaf off him !

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 30 Sep 2021, 04:50
by Muttley
wow, this is going to open a massive can of worms imo. If they overturn the Joyce vs Yoka result then they have to look at the Roy Jones Jr farce from 1988 as well, surely?

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 30 Sep 2021, 04:52
by Muttley
Boxerbeetle wrote: 30 Sep 2021, 04:11 AJ currently sweating about them investigating the 2012 tournament :lol:
you have a point there

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 30 Sep 2021, 05:22
by gregregegg
Boxerbeetle wrote: 30 Sep 2021, 04:11 AJ currently sweating about them investigating the 2012 tournament :lol:
Gone from olympic gold medalist unified world champ to 3rd ranked area levle contender real quick.

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 30 Sep 2021, 05:39
by Ruthless-RKO
Muttley wrote: 30 Sep 2021, 04:50
wow, this is going to open a massive can of worms imo. If they overturn the Joyce vs Yoka result then they have to look at the Roy Jones Jr farce from 1988 as well, surely?
They already did.. Although they didn't change the decision, they did change the way a fight is scored didn't they?

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 30 Sep 2021, 17:06
by margaret thatcher
tbh im not so sure i believe the headline

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 30 Sep 2021, 17:11
by knockout
They won’t change any results ..

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 30 Sep 2021, 17:28
by jameswilson
knockout wrote: 30 Sep 2021, 17:11 They won’t change any results ..
Yeah I’ll believe it when I see it.

Yeah I thought Joyce won but Christ alive there have been some decisions at other olympics that simply beggar belief. If they overturn this god knows how far they will have to go.

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 13:52
by Ruthless-RKO
Investigation unable to prove which Rio Olympic boxing bouts were fixed

- Report says no doubt there was manipulation in 2016 Games
- Joyce and Conlan had been hoping for medal upgrade

Joe Joyce and Michael Conlan’s hopes of a 2016 Olympic medal upgrade have receded after the man tasked with investigating corruption in boxing said that proving which fights were fixed in Rio remained “elusive”.

In the second of three reports into Aiba, amateur boxing’s governing body, Professor Richard McLaren said he had no doubts that there had been “significant” and “rampant” bout manipulation in Rio, with referees and judges discussing results beforehand. However, the subjective nature of boxing’s scoring system and “the fact that the predetermined result was often the correct result”, meant it was hard to prove the specific fights involved beyond reasonable doubt.

In October McLaren had indicated that Joyce’s super-heavyweight final defeat against France’s Tony Yoka, and Conlan’s loss in his bantamweight quarter-final against the Russian Vladimir Nikitin, were among 11 bouts being investigated. That led both Joyce and Conlan to tentatively hope they could get upgraded to a gold and bronze medal respectively.

But on Friday, McLaren said that despite reviewing 77 bouts, his team had been unable to figure out a methodology “that would allow us to be confident to meet the legal standard in order to discipline a person who would have been engaged in bout manipulation”.

“The officiating in boxing is highly subjective as there are no real benchmarks by which to evaluate the bouts,” he added. “So while we tried a number of different methodologies so we could declare a bout was manipulated, we concluded that it’s not possible to do that to the level to bring disciplinary action in the sport.”

McLaren was able to find more evidence of corruption in other areas of the sport as recently as the World Junior Boxing Championships in Poland in April. McLaren also cited the behaviour of the deputy supervisor at the World Junior Boxing Championships in St Petersburg in 2016, who he said had pressured referees and judges to score in favour of certain countries.

“A number of witnesses expressed fear about speaking out against corruption,” said McLaren. “One said he would be dead.” McLaren also revealed that the former executive director Karim Bouzidi, who had led the scheme to manipulate judges in Rio, had continued to have influence in the sport even after leaving Aiba.

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 14:21
by margaret thatcher
conlan didnt get no medal to upgrade

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 17:35
by BigEars
margaret thatcher wrote: 10 Dec 2021, 14:21 conlan didnt get no medal to upgrade
I'd call nothing to Bronze an upgrade.

Re: Joe Joyce's controversial defeat against Tony Yoka in gold medal fight at Rio 2016 Olympics set to be overturned

Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 17:40
by margaret thatcher
aint getting no medal upgraded though

and doesnt seem like anythings going to happen here anyway