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sturm vogel wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 02:12 I agree. This will be recorded as a classic.

sturm vogel wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 02:12 I agree. This will be recorded as a classic.

Cent0089 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 04:06 Ive noticed in recent years on internet forums how NBA and NFL are full of potentional heavyweight boxing champs. Nonsense. You cannot teach boxing toughness and heart like that. Some people are born with that

apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 05:21 Anyway, after this fight I think Wilder would've beat AJ, even now I think Wilder would beat AJ and it would be an intriguing fight.

Stylistically Wilder is all wrong for a stiff-upright and hesitante fighter like AJ. Wilder is a stronger, bigger, fitest , powerful and athletic version of Ruiz Jr.

Imo this was the best version of Wilder we have seen, even if he lost.

apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 05:21 Anyway, after this fight I think Wilder would've beat AJ, even now I think Wilder would beat AJ and it would be an intriguing fight.

Stylistically Wilder is all wrong for a stiff-upright and hesitante fighter like AJ. Wilder is a stronger, bigger, fitest , powerful and athletic version of Ruiz Jr.

Imo this was the best version of Wilder we have seen, even if he lost.

Cent0089 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 05:39

apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 05:21 Anyway, after this fight I think Wilder would've beat AJ, even now I think Wilder would beat AJ and it would be an intriguing fight.

Stylistically Wilder is all wrong for a stiff-upright and hesitante fighter like AJ. Wilder is a stronger, bigger, fitest , powerful and athletic version of Ruiz Jr.

Imo this was the best version of Wilder we have seen, even if he lost.

While i am agree Wilder is bad match for Joshua, Joshua is huge puncher himself. Who knows how Wilder will react to that bombs

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 05:22

apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 05:21 Anyway, after this fight I think Wilder would've beat AJ, even now I think Wilder would beat AJ and it would be an intriguing fight.

Stylistically Wilder is all wrong for a stiff-upright and hesitante fighter like AJ. Wilder is a stronger, bigger, fitest , powerful and athletic version of Ruiz Jr.

Imo this was the best version of Wilder we have seen, even if he lost.

wilder is absolutely nothing like ruiz jr, for one he cant throw a quick, short counter left hook like that which set off aj's problems. his shots are all long telegraphed bombs, not quick looping combos in close

totally different dynamics, as opposite as you can get

it would be great to actually see them fight. aj wasnt good vs usyk, but wilder doesnt have any of usyks moves and is 36, coming off a brutal prolonged ko loss where he was nearly out cold, been ko'd 2 in a row, hasnt won in 2.5 years, and has talked retirement recently. hes won maybe 2-3 rounds in the last 2 fury fights. i think he's on the way down and will be more vulnerable than ever if he ever fights again, but obviously hes still a big puncher

btw, wilder is stiff and upright himself, him and aj have that in common

jezzamundo wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 09:00 It was a great fight for us fans - extremely exciting, but let's be honest - it wasn't at the level of a Bowe-Holfield, or even a Joshua-Usyk in terms of the skills on display. Wilder has a monster right hand but isn't a great boxer otherwise and a sloppy, overweight Fury still managed to outland him 2:1.

Kronkpride wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 09:47 That was a definite classic. Best HW match I've ever watched.

Wilder and AJ have the same flaw.....too much muscle and too little oxygen to feed it.

Wilder was dead tired by the 6th round carrying that extra muscle. His legs aren't built to carry that much weight up top. It did look like he trained a bit better but he still could not carry his steam with that extra muscle past 6 rounds. He would have been best off going into all 3 fights staying around that 212 area.

The biggest misconception in boxing is that muscular and chiseled bodies are preferable. They are not. These guys like Wilder and Joshua cannot fuel those bodies properly for long distance fighting. Lots of other muscle bound guys have been the same way.

Fury's less muscular body is massively easier to keep fueled for the long and steady haul. His body style is actually his biggest advantage over the rest of the big HW's today. Nobody else near his size can keep the foot on the gas for all 12 rounds without slowing down much and being at risk to blow themselves up after a super active round.

Big props to Wilder though. He is definitely the 2nd best big HW in the world. Unlike Joshua you have never seen any quit come out of him. Joshua has the muscle bound stamina issue and the mental weaknesses. Wilder even at the worst of times has never given up and been mentally broken. Too bad for him that Fury is in his era. Wilder likely would have ripped AJs head off and been the man of this era if not for the exceptional package of size, skill, endurance and mental strength that Fury brings. Fury is simply one of the very best HWs of all time. He has everything you want of a champ inside and outside of the ring. Huge entertainment value on top of the exceptional ring performances.

Great fight though. Will forget it.