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Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 07:19
by nobleart1978
Bombadier Billy Wells
Tommy Farr
Henry Cooper
Joe Bugner
Frank Bruno
Lennox Lewis

Where does Tyson Fury rank ?

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 07:21
by Boxerbeetle
He’s nowhere near Lewis.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 07:32
by Twinkle Toes
No, not even close to Lewis

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 07:36
by banjo
No, the only two names on his record are Klitschko(who never won a fight again) and Wilder(who aside from his punching power isn't really all that good), Fury needs a few more fights yet to be spoken of that way.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 07:37
by Crease
Lewis and Fury are definitely the top two... With AJ at three...

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 07:38
by bigjack
Twinkle Toes wrote: 10 Oct 2021, 07:32 No, not even close to Lewis
not even a contest

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 07:48
by DrDuke
Only Lewis is better. For now.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 07:57
by polecateddy
I think Fury and Joshua could have overcome Bruno, but they’d still have to prove they could take their lumps. Bruno was a bit slower but had good technical skills. He would be able to land punches on both of them, but obviously was less of a 12 round fighter really.
It’s also not totally clear cut that Herbie Hide couldn’t have come out of the blocks at a million miles an hour and clocked both of them. Akinwande’s style could have been all wrong for Joshua, and towards the end of his career the 6 foot 7 Henry found his punching power.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:02
by DrDuke
polecateddy wrote: 10 Oct 2021, 07:57 I think Fury and Joshua could have overcome Bruno, but they’d still have to prove they could take their lumps. Bruno was a bit slower but had good technical skills. He would be able to land punches on both of them, but obviously was less of a 12 round fighter really.
They definitely had. Although Joshua isn't much better than Bruno, he's just a more lucky man, beginning with taking part in the hometown Olympics. Fury is much better than these two, he handles them both together every day, twice on Sunday.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:04
by Steveh583
i don't really could Lennox as british tbh. he was canadian. I know people will jump all over me, but lets be honest, his heart was in canada. he came back here for an instant fanbase and promotional reasons. yes he was born here, but he wasn't raised here and didn't represent us in the Am's.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:09
by DrDuke
Steveh583 wrote: 10 Oct 2021, 08:04 i don't really could Lennox as british tbh. he was canadian. I know people will jump all over me, but lets be honest, his heart was in canada. he came back here for an instant fanbase and promotional reasons. yes he was born here, but he wasn't raised here and didn't represent us in the Am's.
Technically he's a British boxer. Born there, fought out of there as a pro. But who actually cares about nationality in the pros? They just make money for themselves, representing themselves where more money can be offered.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:12
by polecateddy
Steveh583 wrote: 10 Oct 2021, 08:04 i don't really could Lennox as british tbh. he was canadian. I know people will jump all over me, but lets be honest, his heart was in canada. he came back here for an instant fanbase and promotional reasons. yes he was born here, but he wasn't raised here and didn't represent us in the Am's.
I guess we shouldn’t be too picky. Mo Farah was born in Somalia, I don’t think it really matters. These days I think Lewis is regarded as international I suppose. A bit of an enigma, as he was as a boxer.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:12
by Verdi
Lewis still has the best resume, but Tyson could certainly pass him and take that #1 spot.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:14
by polecateddy
Verdi wrote: 10 Oct 2021, 08:12 Lewis still has the best resume, but Tyson could certainly pass him and take that #1 spot.
I don’t really see how. There isn’t the quality of opposition available.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:17
by AlexY2K4
No, but surely he is easily the second best. I can't see him ever taking Lennox's place, though. Simply not as good (in my opinion, at least), and of a weaker era, though that's obviously not his fault.

If he goes on to unify the belts against Usyk/Joshua, and beats a couple more top 10'ers, I imagine it would be enough for him to be regarded as a fringe great.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:17
by Steveh583
Verdi wrote: 10 Oct 2021, 08:12 Lewis still has the best resume, but Tyson could certainly pass him and take that #1 spot.
if fury beats both Usyk and AJ it certainly brings them closer. it he added Whyte and Joyce, closer still. TBH even then I'd put Lewis higher.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:18
by DrDuke
Lewis became the inarguable man of the division.

Fury is the man, but he still has some scalps to conquer. He'll do it, but obviously he should do it first to call it an achievement.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:25
by Boxerbeetle
Verdi wrote: 10 Oct 2021, 08:12 Lewis still has the best resume, but Tyson could certainly pass him and take that #1 spot.
I don’t see it myself. Lewis was so good that I’d legitimately give him a reasonable chance of beating every heavyweight ever. Would certainly not say the same for Fury.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:52
by coneye
Think Fury is defo up there with the best ever British , Lewis is up there with the best ever WORLD

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:54
by Glass Joe
Lewis at his peak would had stopped Fury early for me and im a big fury fan.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 08:56
by Verdi
Boxerbeetle wrote: 10 Oct 2021, 08:25
Verdi wrote: 10 Oct 2021, 08:12 Lewis still has the best resume, but Tyson could certainly pass him and take that #1 spot.
I don’t see it myself. Lewis was so good that I’d legitimately give him a reasonable chance of beating every heavyweight ever. Would certainly not say the same for Fury.
Personally I would say the same about Fury.

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 09:03
by peter barlow
He's the best ever, up there with Lennox

He's also the greatest Irish fighter of all time. I'd like another defence of his Irish title before he retires.... :OhYes: :yay:

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 09:06
by Frostieballs
Lewis by a mile.

This will sound weird, but with Fury I’m still not really sure how good he is.

His career has been amazing. A roller coaster ride and he has always come through. He is undoubtedly the best heavyweight of the modern era.

I’m just not sure there is the opposition now to adequately judge him against heavyweights of the past.

Bruno, maybe even Mason. I’m not 100% sure how those go.

Would Tyson have beaten a prime, explosive Haye?

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 09:06
by peter barlow
The size of Fury dwarfs the old ATGs. Only Lennox could handle him.

I mean he went to Germany and mugged off Wladimir on him turf. Wlad is no 2 all time on Boxrecs own rankings :OhYes:

Re: Is Fury best ever british heavyweight ?

Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 09:07
by peter barlow
Frostieballs wrote: 10 Oct 2021, 09:06 Lewis by a mile.

This will sound weird, but with Fury I’m still not really sure how good he is.

His career has been amazing. A roller coaster ride and he has always come through. He is undoubtedly the best heavyweight of the modern era.

I’m just not sure there is the opposition now to adequately judge him against heavyweights of the past.

Bruno, maybe even Mason. I’m not 100% sure how those go.

Would Tyson have beaten a prime, explosive Haye?
Haye ? Bruno? Gary Mason?

LMAO