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WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 08:36
by Enlightened-One
"WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1"

Former WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder remains ranked number one by the World Boxing Council despite losing for a second time running against Tyson Fury.

“The Bronze Bomber” is rewarded for a monumental effort against Fury, though. Wilder dropped Fury twice [again] in one of the most amazing top division battles for a generation.

Both Fury and Wilder secured their places in the annals of boxing history when concluding a superb saga over three years.

Wilder stays at one, with the rest of the top five unchanged. What this means for the future of the number one contender is yet to be made clear.

Fury will have to meet the winner of Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin next in a mandatory bout, provided an agreement with Oleksandr Usyk for a multi-belt unification isn’t forthcoming in the next three weeks.

Usyk getting locked into a rematch with Anthony Joshua is expected to put a firm block on any undisputed plans.

Meanwhile, Frank Sanchez, Robert Helenius, and Jared Anderson all move up following their triumphs on the Fury vs. Wilder III undercard.

Sanchez went from eleventh to sixth after defeating Efe Ajagba, while Helenius jumped from twenty-first to thirteenth by repeating his victory over Adam Kownacki in a more devastating fashion.

Ajagba dropped out of the top ten following his loss.

Finally, Anderson – known as “The Real Big Baby,” entered the Top 40 Ratings for his impressive stoppage of the previously undefeated Vladimir Tereshkin.

CHAMPION: TYSON FURY
INTERIM: DILLIAN WHYTE
WBC HEAVYWEIGHT RATINGS – OCT 2021

1 Deontay Wilder US
2 Andy Ruiz Jr. Mexico/US
3 Joe Joyce GB SILVER/BBBofC/COMM
4 Luis Ortiz Cuba
5 Joseph Parker New Zealand
6 Frank Sanchez Cuba CONTINENTAL AMERICAS
7 Michael Hunter US
8 Agit Kabayel Germany
9 Filip Hrgovic Croatia
10 Arslanbek Makhmudov Russia/Canada NABF
11 Tony Yoka France
12 Dereck Chisora GB
13 Robert Helenius Finland
14 Martin Bakole Congo/GB INTL
15 Charles Martin US

VOLUNTARY CUT-OFF

16 Daniel Dubois GB
17 Efe Ajagba Nigeria/US
18 Murat Gassiev Russia
19 Kubrat Pulev Bulgaria
20 Otto Wallin Sweden
21 Carlos Takam Cameroon
22 Hughie Fury GB
23 Simon Kean Canada
24 Jack Mulowayi Congo/Belgium ABU
25 Zhilei Zhang China
26 Steven Shaw US
27 Peter Kadiru Germany
28 Fabio Wardley GB
29 Vladyslav Sirenko Ukraine ABCO
30 Jose Larduet Cuba CONT. LATINO AMERICAN
31 Nathan Gorman GB
32 Zhan Kossobutskiy Kazakhstan
33 Junior Fa New Zealand
34 Sergey Kuzmin Russia
35 Joe Goodall Australia
36 Cassius Chaney US
37 Demsey McKean Australia
38 Alexis Garcia Dom. R.
39 Oleksandr Zakhozhy Ukraine/Germany FRANCOPHONE
40 Jared Anderson US


Thoughts? :confused:

Re: WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 08:43
by Enlightened-One
I’m not a fan of those rankings.

In my opinion, the likes of Wilder, Ortiz, Kabayel, Hrgovic, Makhmudov and Bakole are rated far too highly.

None of those guys have beaten an impressive opponent within the last couple of years or so.

And it would be an outrage, if Wilder was installed as the WBC’s mandatory challenger within the next six months or so (based solely on his current status of being the number one ranked contender).

Think about it, if Fury beats the winner of Whyte-Wallin, who’s at the front of the WBC’s title shot queue? Wilder!!!

We need a fresh set of fighters competing for the WBC’s world heavyweight title, anyone other than Luis Ortiz and Deontay Wilder.

Re: WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 09:22
by mcrow24
I don't think a #1 contender that loses keeps the #1 spot.

Re: WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 14:22
by candyslim
I guess that depends on whether whoever is compiling the rankings considers anyone deserving of being ranked higher. I would drop him a few places but you could make a case for Wilder being number two after Fury ... certainly if you're Haymon's good buddy Mauricio Sulaiman anyway.

I'm just amazed they have Joyce ahead of Ortiz. So he should be but it's still shocking.

Mostly I don't think those rankings are too bad not when you consider we are talking about the WBC here.

Makhmudov might be among the ten best heavyweights around but he has done nothing to justify a top ten ranking so far. That is possibly the most jarring anomaly (given that we are well used to Ortiz being perpetually top six despite having beaten nobody of note for six years or so).

Agit Kabayel has done nothing for years and shouldn't be top 15. Beyond that my biggest complaint is that Kossobutskiy is much better than his 32 placing, I wouldn't have Alexis Garcia anywhere near these rankings and although I had high expectations for former talented amateur Joe Goodall, what has he done as a pro???. Huni is way ahead of him at this stage and I would say Jared Anderson should be much higher than forty.

That's better than their usual crappy effort though and succeeds in making the WBA's offering look pathetic by comparison.

Re: WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 14:31
by joshj909
mcrow24 wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 09:22 I don't think a #1 contender that loses keeps the #1 spot.
They usually don't. Usually they're dropped to atleast 2nd to allow the legend of the next number 1 contender to begin. Not sure what the WBC thinks will happen? A lot of PBC guys there though...

Re: WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 15:11
by HomicideHenry
They should make #1 Wilder face #2 Ruiz to get the chance at the Fury-Whyte winner. :TU: However that being said if a man loses no matter how great the performance was he should go down in the rankings so this is clearly all political.

Re: WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 15:13
by KiwiRider
HomicideHenry wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 15:11 They should make #1 Wilder face #2 Ruiz to get the chance at the Fury-Whyte winner. :TU: However that being said if a man loses no matter how great the performance was he should go down in the rankings so this is clearly all political.
Oh Henry, when has the WBC followed their own rules, or logic, or what's seems fair?
:lol:

Re: WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 15:16
by margaret thatcher
wilder - fury 4 baby :yay:

Re: WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 15:46
by HomicideHenry
KiwiRider wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 15:13
HomicideHenry wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 15:11 They should make #1 Wilder face #2 Ruiz to get the chance at the Fury-Whyte winner. :TU: However that being said if a man loses no matter how great the performance was he should go down in the rankings so this is clearly all political.
Oh Henry, when has the WBC followed their own rules, or logic, or what's seems fair?
:lol:
Oh they never have. Neither has the WBA. Or really any of these organizations for that matter. They do what they feel is most convenient for them, and makes the most money.

But if they tried to pull that Fury-Wilder 4 nonsense, they will get a rude awakening from the heavyweight champion of the world because he will pull a Riddick Bowe and drop the title rather than do this crap all over again when there is no point.

Re: WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 17:46
by adislav123
right. he won't fight him again if they really pull that shit.

can that strap and go with the lineal 'the man who beat the man' which is the most prestigious anyways.

in the best case he doesn't need a belt, he would be still heavyweight champion of the world above the alphabet ones.

fornicate the orgs alltogether and fight as lineal heavyweight champion of the world the guys fans wanna see you defend against, beltholder or not.

wouldn't be that better alltogether.

Re: WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 18:08
by gregregegg
Setting up whyte vs wilder for wbc belt and fury as franchise champ. Really is the only explanation for not winning a fight in 3 years and being number 1…

Re: WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 18:55
by Enlightened-One
gregregegg wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 18:08 Setting up whyte vs wilder for wbc belt and fury as franchise champ. Really is the only explanation for not winning a fight in 3 years and being number 1…
You could be right, but I really do hope you’re wrong.

Re: WBC Heavyweight Rankings [Oct 2021]: Deontay Wilder remains rated #1

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 19:10
by Bandog
gregregegg wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 18:08 Setting up whyte vs wilder for wbc belt and fury as franchise champ. Really is the only explanation for not winning a fight in 3 years and being number 1…
That sounds about as bad as defending a belt for the very first time in your career.