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Do you think Beterbiev vs Bivol fight will happen in 2022 or both fighters are gonna wait for Canelo's payday?

Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 04:08
by apollo creed
Of course that Beterbiev must beat Browne and Bivol vs whoever he's gonna fight next(I hope it's Zurdo Ramirez).

:box:

Re: Do you think Beterbiev vs Bivol fight will happen in 2022 or both fighters are gonna wait for Canelo's payday?

Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 06:57
by Cent0089
I think if Canelo can handle Plant, he will go after Benavidez and Charlo, which is good.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 09:31
by apollo creed
Cent0089 wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 06:57 I think if Canelo can handle Plant, he will go after Benavidez and Charlo, which is good.
I think that too. My guess would be Charlo first.

Anyway, it would be annoying to see Beterbiev and Bivol not trying to unify and just waiting Canelo @175.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 10:31
by Cent0089
That Marcus Browne fight is actually challenge, Beterbiev must handle that first. As far as i know, Bivol is going to face John Ryder? That is good fight too.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 12:11
by Perseus
I think Beterbiev and Bivol will stay away from one another and wait for the Canelo call.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 14:18
by apollo creed
Cent0089 wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 10:31 That Marcus Browne fight is actually challenge, Beterbiev must handle that first. As far as i know, Bivol is going to face John Ryder? That is good fight too.
Well, considering Beterbiev's age and innactivity, it may be a challenge.

I expected to see Bivol wanting to fight Zurdo Ramirez, as he called out Bivol.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 14:19
by apollo creed
Perseus wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 12:11 I think Beterbiev and Bivol will stay away from one another and wait for the Canelo call.
Most probably but it would be a pity to not unify first.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 15:18
by gregregegg
My guess is canelo will fight Bivol may next year unless benevidez or charlo take a significantly smaller cut than they want.

Any of the 3 is excellent though.

Re: Do you think Beterbiev vs Bivol fight will happen in 2022 or both fighters are gonna wait for Canelo's payday?

Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 15:45
by Enlightened-One
When it seemed that the Plant fight was called-off, Bivol was leading the queue of fighters facing Canelo.

I feel that still remains the case after the Plant bout, especially when you consider the fact that Bivol holds a title and is a fellow stablemate of Canelo’s.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 16:39
by apollo creed
Bivol @175 is a better opponent than Charlo or Benavidez tbh.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 17:29
by margaret thatcher
i think bivol will fight canelo next year

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 22:16
by ironbeard
They would be waiting for something that may never materialize. Let’s see how this week plays out. Based on the BJS result, I am not convinced that Canelo will fight at 175.

Re: Do you think Beterbiev vs Bivol fight will happen in 2022 or both fighters are gonna wait for Canelo's payday?

Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 22:27
by margaret thatcher
based on stopping bjs, breaking his face, while up 6-2?

kov gave canelo a better fight up at lhw, if anything he's fought so far deters him from more lhw action that would be it id think, but even then he ko'd him.

bivol is a small lhw too and without major pop

Re: Do you think Beterbiev vs Bivol fight will happen in 2022 or both fighters are gonna wait for Canelo's payday?

Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 22:35
by ironbeard
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 22:27 based on stopping bjs, breaking his face, while up 6-2?

kov gave canelo a much better fight up at lhw, if anything he's fought so far deters him from more lhw action that would be it id think, but even then he ko'd him.

bivol is a small lhw too and without major pop
BJS fought well and he was in that fight until he got caught. He frustrated Canelo a bit and he was boxing well.

Kovalev was shot. You know it as well as everyone else does. He boxed well but that fight was nearly a foregone conclusion.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 22:37
by margaret thatcher
kovalev lasted longer and won more rounds, was actually even on a card. if he did that well as a shot fighter (him being shot just strengthens my point) might make canelo think twice about lhw, certainly more than the bjs fight would. bjs fight was a total foregone conclusion too btw, dude won 2 rounds and had his face caved in, he was never going to win

but i dont think canelo will be too weary about lhw, i expect him to fight bivol. i think there's little difference in size between bivol and say david benavidez, plant, or smith

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 22:56
by ironbeard
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 22:37 kovalev lasted longer and won more rounds, was actually even on a card. if he did that well as a shot fighter (him being shot just strengthens my point) might make canelo think twice about lhw, certainly more than the bjs fight would. bjs fight was a total foregone conclusion too btw, dude won 2 rounds and had his face caved in, he was never going to win

but i dont think canelo will be too weary about lhw, i expect him to fight bivol. i think there's little difference in size between bivol and say david benavidez, plant, or smith
The fact that Kovalev lasted so long and was even on a card strengthens my point.

However, Canelo has proven time and again that he is up for the challenge. I would rather see the Benavidez and Charlo fights, but I would enjoy the Bivol fight. All three are legit.

The cards were 78-74 x 2 and 77-75. BJS fought better than I expected.

Re: Do you think Beterbiev vs Bivol fight will happen in 2022 or both fighters are gonna wait for Canelo's payday?

Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 22:59
by margaret thatcher
my point was that kov fight would give canelo more doubts about lhw than the bjs fight would. if a shot lhw can still last longer and win more rounds vs canelo than a prime bjs can, of course it would. and of course, canelo didnt return to lhw after fighting kovalev.....

there's no basis on which the kov fight was a foregone conclusion but bjs wasnt. kov lasted longer than bjs and won more rounds than him. was still there to start the championship rounds and even on a card, instead of staying on his stool after 8, down 6-2 (78-74). stopping a guy while up 6-2 isnt really some huge ordeal or struggle, pretty standard win tbh

but as i said, i dont think canelo will have too many issues fighting bivol and lhws after this

Re: Do you think Beterbiev vs Bivol fight will happen in 2022 or both fighters are gonna wait for Canelo's payday?

Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 23:13
by ironbeard
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 22:59 my point was that kov fight would give canelo more doubts about lhw than the bjs fight would. if a shot lhw can still last longer and win more rounds vs canelo than a prime bjs can, of course it would

there's no basis on which the kov fight was a foregone conclusion but bjs wasnt. kov lasted longer than bjs and won more rounds than him. was still there to start the championship rounds and even on a card, instead of sitting on his stool, down 6-2 (78-74).

but as i said, i dont think canelo will have too many issues fighting bivol and lhws after this
Did your wife kick you to the couch or something? The point is they were both considered foregone conclusions by most and they were both more competitive than expected.

This fight is not a foregone conclusion. We will see how Canelo deals with Plant’s gift and skill sets. He does not have Kovalev pop and he is not as cute an operator as BJS, but he is quick, elusive and can punch. He is bigger, longer and prime.

What happens next will be determined by what happens Saturday. This is a test that Canelo should pass but he has not faced anyone quite like Plant.

Even if he wins, if it does not go well Team Canelo may rethink the 3rd 3G fight.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 23:15
by margaret thatcher
my wife kicking me to the couch lol? are you triggered simply by some disagreement on a forum to exchange opinions my man :lol:

my point simply was that i think the kov fight would be the cause of more doubts about a lhw run than the bjs fight. i think canelo really didnt have much issue in the bjs fight, and that he won that easier than he did against ol' sergey

plant has some skills (not sure where the 'punch' stuff comes from though, and canelo has iron chin anyway), but i expect him to lose clearly on points. after that, i think canelo will fight bivol in 2022

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 23:25
by ironbeard
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 23:15 it's a forum for conversation bruh, are you really triggered by some disagreement my man :lol:

my point simply was that i think the kov fight would be the cause of more doubts about a lhw than the bjs fight. i think canelo really didnt have much issue in the bjs fight, and that he won that easier than he did against ol' sergey

plant has some skills (not sure where the 'punch' stuff comes from, and canelo has iron chin anyway), but i expect him to lose clearly on points. after that, i think canelo will fight bivol in 2022
You have been arguing with yourself, trigger-happy. I never disagreed with your take on the Kovalev fight, but you chugged full steam ahead as though I did.

If Canelo cuts through Plant like butter, he still may not fight Bivol if there is a more lucrative option. But, as you have pointed out, they are from the same stable.

Re: Do you think Beterbiev vs Bivol fight will happen in 2022 or both fighters are gonna wait for Canelo's payday?

Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 23:27
by margaret thatcher
it's just some discussion bruh on a boxing forum bruh, totally unrelated to anything to do with wives :lol:

canelo vs bivol 2022 - i think it happens

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 23:36
by ironbeard
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 23:27 it's just some discussion bruh on a boxing forum bruh, totally unrelated to anything to do with wives :lol:

canelo vs bivol 2022 - i think it happens
:lol: Sure “bruh.”

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 23:38
by margaret thatcher
there you go bruhster :TU:

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 23:43
by oogiebe
WTF is going on here kids? :lol:

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Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 23:46
by margaret thatcher
bivol, canelo, bjs, kovalev, plant, wives, couches, bruhs :yay: