Gabriel Rosado's (26-13-1, 15 KO's) record is very deceptive in my estimation.
Can anyone here name other current boxers with 10 or more losses that could/should be considered as a risky opponent?
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 11:12
by ironbeard
The obvious…Chisora.
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 11:27
by bobcatbox
René Alvarado, hell of a fighter.
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 12:00
by tiny_acres
ironbeard wrote: ↑12 Nov 2021, 11:12
The obvious…Chisora.
I would have to agree. He is a fighter who always loses to the upper echelon but he gives them all a tough go
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 12:16
by Enlightened-One
According to BoxRec:
• Dereck Chisora
• Gabriel Rosado
• Miguel Roman
• Rene Alvarado
• Miguel Vazquez
• Tomas Rojas
• Kiko Martinez
There’s a lot more decent(ish) fighters with seven or more losses though.
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 12:20
by HomicideHenry
There is so much emphasis on undefeated records that I have to remind people from time to time that many of the all-time great champions had double digit losses.
I would be more concerned fighting a top-level guy with multiple losses then I would be someone with an undefeated record at the top level because the man who has lost and still remains a top level guy is a bigger threat than a man who has never known defeat more times than not.
I'm reminded of guys like Bert Cooper when I was a kid who had multiple losses but could still give somebody like Evander Holyfield one hell of a fight.
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 12:25
by Ruthless-RKO
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑12 Nov 2021, 12:20
There is so much emphasis on undefeated records that I have to remind people from time to time that many of the all-time great champions had double digit losses.
I would be more concerned fighting a top-level guy with multiple losses then I would be someone with an undefeated record at the top level because the man who has lost and still remains a top level guy is a bigger threat than a man who has never known defeat more times than not.
I'm reminded of guys like Bert Cooper when I was a kid who had multiple losses but could still give somebody like Evander Holyfield one hell of a fight.
Some boxers are moredangerous once they've lost their '0'.
Cus there is so much emphasis like you said.
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 13:29
by AngryGoon38
There could be and should be a separate thread on boxers with unimpressive records,who scored an impressive victory or gave a top 10 boxer,or highly regarded prospect, a rough day,or tough night.
Boxers like Ben Serrano,Terrible Teddy Sanders,Marion Wilson,Emmanuel Augustus,Willie Salazar,Lionel Butler,Maurice Harris,Rudy Barro,Tiger Ted Lowrey,Fritzie Zivic,Lew Jenkins,and James Braddock spring to mind. Alot of others too,that I remember boxing,but I don't remember They're names.
I saw this one boxer on this site,he had a career record of 10-85-5,but he used to go the distance with fringe contenders and quite often. He usually fought bouts that were less than 10 rounds. Can't remember his name unfortunately. It's always so easy to remember Reggie Strickland though. He went something like 55-264-10 ? If I remember correctly..? Also,I think he wasn't ko'd or tko'd for a streak of 80 or more bouts,during a certain time-span.
I could definitely see some veteran developed Midwestern boxer arising ,With a record of 75-35-8,eventually onto scoring a shocking upset victory over one of these PrimaDonna's, with they're daily blabby blabbering. Flaunting they're proficiently annoying trash talk skills for YouTube viewers to Marvel at...
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 14:21
by HomicideHenry
AngryGoon38 wrote: ↑12 Nov 2021, 13:29
There could be and should be a separate thread on boxers with unimpressive records,who scored an impressive victory or gave a top 10 boxer,or highly regarded prospect, a rough day,or tough night.
Boxers like Ben Serrano,Terrible Teddy Sanders,Marion Wilson,Emmanuel Augustus,Willie Salazar,Lionel Butler,Maurice Harris,Rudy Barro,Tiger Ted Lowrey,Fritzie Zivic,Lew Jenkins,and James Braddock spring to mind. Alot of others too,that I remember boxing,but I don't remember They're names.
I saw this one boxer on this site,he had a career record of 10-85-5,but he used to go the distance with fringe contenders and quite often. He usually fought bouts that were less than 10 rounds. Can't remember his name unfortunately. It's always so easy to remember Reggie Strickland though. He went something like 55-264-10 ? If I remember correctly..? Also,I think he wasn't ko'd or tko'd for a streak of 80 or more bouts,during a certain time-span.
I could definitely see some veteran developed Midwestern boxer arising ,With a record of 75-35-8,eventually onto scoring a shocking upset victory over one of these PrimaDonna's, with they're daily blabby blabbering. Flaunting they're proficiently annoying trash talk skills for YouTube viewers to Marvel at...
I second that opinion.
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 12 Nov 2021, 14:37
by The Gratest
Can't add to anything to those already mentioned, but Emmanuel Augustus was a talented guy who, when on form, gave anyone a good fight. Mayweather considered him as one of his toughest opponents.
I can remember Buck Smith derailing a Kirkland Laing comeback with one left hook.
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 13 Nov 2021, 01:37
by Las Vegas boxing guy
Just watched the highlights above. I didn't like that ref stoppage. Laing was healthy to keep going.
Strange thread sidetrack ... Buck was 33-2 at the time of this victory. True, he finished with 20 career losses ... and 182 wins.
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 13 Nov 2021, 01:49
by margaret thatcher
182 wins and 10 or more losses, true
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 13 Nov 2021, 05:49
by The Gratest
Las Vegas boxing guy wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 01:37
Just watched the highlights above. I didn't like that ref stoppage. Laing was healthy to keep going.
Strange thread sidetrack ... Buck was 33-2 at the time of this victory. True, he finished with 20 career losses ... and 182 wins.
I never realised his record was 33-2 at the time of the Laing fight (I never fully watched the highlights I posted). My memory was getting mixed up with his end career recognition as a guy who'd travel from one fight to another in the US living in his car and picking up paychecks. I assumed he was further on in his career vs Laing and brought over to provide a workout but nothing more.
His record includes 5 wins over Rob Bleakley and 5 wins over Reggie Strickland. He probably fought those guys more than that, as they were known to fight under different names just a few days after havibg a bout in order to avoid suspensions.
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 13 Nov 2021, 05:55
by jezzamundo
Doesn't address the question, but I think Glen Johnson had over 10 losses when he beat Target to become the #1 at LHW and a legit P4P top 20 fighter.
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 13 Nov 2021, 19:11
by Ruthless-RKO
Kiko Martinez!!
Take a bow!
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 13 Nov 2021, 19:15
by KiwiRider
KIKO
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 13 Nov 2021, 19:15
by gregregegg
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 19:11
Kiko Martinez!!
Take a bow!
dont know if today showed he is a good fighter. but best win for a fighter with 10 or more losses this has to be up there.
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 19:11
Kiko Martinez!!
Take a bow!
dont know if today showed he is a good fighter. but best win for a fighter with 10 or more losses this has to be up there.
Written off aswell
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 13 Nov 2021, 19:17
by ironbeard
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 19:11
Kiko Martinez!!
Take a bow!
INDEED!! Wow, what a win!!
He springs to the tip top of this thread’s list!!
Just overjoyed for the grizzled pro!!
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 13 Nov 2021, 19:21
by Dylanc
bless kiko that was a brilliant ko
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 13 Nov 2021, 19:38
by Enlightened-One
Did anyone else mention Kiko’s name in this thread before the Galahad bout?
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 13 Nov 2021, 21:06
by margaret thatcher
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Nov 2021, 19:11
Kiko Martinez!!
Take a bow!
for sure
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 13 Nov 2021, 21:59
by adislav123
ay sweet knock out!
he's been around a while. 100 percent deserves that shit!
also seems to be in brilliant shape still.
did i get that wrong or did the ref tell him to tone it down a notch and go to his corner? wtf?
Re: Best fighters today with 10 or more losses?
Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 11:43
by AngryGoon38
Brian Vera is still boxing. He's going to be taking on a bellator fighter in a 7 round boxing match.
Vera has well over 10 losses. He's still very tough though.
He fought Andy Lee twice. Tko'd Lee in they're first bout. Lost the rematch by a decision.
,With a record of 75-35-8,eventually onto scoring a shocking upset victory over one of these PrimaDonna's, with they're daily blabby blabbering. Flaunting they're proficiently annoying trash talk skills for YouTube viewers to Marvel at... 
I second that opinion.
KIKO 
