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"Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte 2022 blockbuster world title fight on hold as WBC delay mandatory decision"

Dillian Whyte was expected to be called as Tyson Fury's next opponent during a meeting at the WBC's convention in Mexico this week, but the governing body have since delayed their decision.

During their ratings meeting, the World Boxing Council announced there had been no progress with Dillian Whyte's efforts to fight heavyweight champion Tyson Fury because he's taking legal action, and the case is in the Court of Arbitration. Whilst that is ongoing, there's no chance of ruling on his mandatory status.

Thoughts?

Dillian Whyte is the WBC interim champion, has already been ducked by Tyson Fury once in a WBC-mandated bout, and was initially installed as the WBC’s number one contender during November 2017.

Dillian Whyte has has been paying the WBC 3% sanctioning fees more than four years, engaged in numerous title eliminators, became the WBC's highest-rated fighter, previously held mandatory challenger status and also captured the WBC international, silver, interim and diamond straps.

And Mauricio Sulaimán still refuses to grant Dillian Whyte a shot at the WBC world heavyweight title!

It doesn’t matter whether he’s capable of beating Tyson Fury or not, it’s about not receiving an opportunity he’s already earned and should be legally entitled to!

Sulaiman decided to slap Dillian for b!tching about not receiving a shot.

Suliaman must really not like Dillian Whyte.

Forget Fury-Whyte. They should make Sulaiman vs Whyte for the WBC Silver-Pink Inter-Galactical belt on the Fury vs Usyk/Joshua winner undercard.

Is Dillian Whyte the second coming of Graciano Rocchigiani?

And can the WBC avoid bankruptcy if they continue refusing to grant Dillian his title shot, whilst also contesting his claims via court?

Surely Mauricio has learned from the mistakes made by his father, and will finally grant Whyte well-deserved long-overdue world title shot within the next few weeks?

The WBC sure as hell had no qualms letting Canelo get a shot at the cruiserweight champion, so they should have been able to make up their mind automatically on this.

There is a guy called Joe who lives across the street from me. He owns a nice Ford Fiesta that I have my eye on.

I think that Joe should sell his Fiesta to me, there are a couple of reasons for this.

1. A few months ago I helped a woman in distress.
2. A few years ago I helped a child in distress.
3. I give money to charities.
4. I have sent several offers to Joe.
5. I offered Joe a fair discounted market value for the car.
6. I am a great driver.

Bull fornicating shit. Dillian got paid more than he is worth for his fights. Fury is bigger than the belt around his waist. If Fury wants to fight Dillian then he should otherwise he should put the belt in the trashcan where it belongs.

All these nutthugging idiots saying that Dillian deserves this or that. Fool doesn't deserve anything, but if he does then feel free to send him Your cash.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:58All these nutthugging idiots saying that Dillian deserves this or that. Fool doesn't deserve anything, but if he does then feel free to send him Your cash.

I’m sorry, perhaps something has been lost in translation.

Are you saying that fighters that work their way to the top of the rankings, emerging victorious in multiple eliminators, capturing multiple secondary titles, beating multiple top-ten world-rated opponents, whilst also paying millions of dollars to the WBC in sanctioning fees, don’t deserve to receive world title shots?

For sure, Dillian Whyte has earned a lot of money, because he regularly competes against the very best available opponents, but imagine what he could have earned had he been given his well-deserved world title shot four years ago?

I wonder whether Team Fury will orchestrate a voluntary defence whilst the WBC are engaged in arbitration with Whyte's legal team?

Because after all, 'The Gypsy King' doesn't currently have a mandatory challenger, which means he's free to face whomever he damn well wants (within reason).

If they don't fancy the Whyte bout, then I'd expect Team Fury to make an announcement imminently about Tyson's next opponent.

"Eddie Hearn hits out at Tyson Fury's "outrageous" demands for Dillian Whyte fight"

Hearn has questioned Fury's financial demands for an 80 percent split of any purse for a mandatory defence against Whyte, and believes the WBC ruling for his mandatory challenge will be completed in the coming weeks

Eddie Hearn has slammed Tyson Fury's financial demands after his team demanded an 80 per cent split of the purse for a mandatory defence against Dillian Whyte.

Fury was set to be ordered to face WBC interim champion Whyte this week but the ruling is currently on hold while a dispute is resolved between Whyte and the WBC.

And even if the fight is ordered, Fury's demands could represent a significant stumbling block in open negotiations.

Matchroom Boxing promoter Hearn has branded Fury's financial demands as "outrageous" and expects the WBC rules to enforce a more favourable purse for the challenger.

"The purses are almost secondary to the fight being ordered," Hearn told IFL TV. "The interim champion can receive up to 45 percent of a purse split.

"And I believe that the purse should be at those kinds of levels. We have seen Top Rank talking about 20 percent to Whyte which is outrageous.

"But I think something that should be left to the WBC, the problem is time we need to move forward but we are confident that it will be a ruling that is fair to Whyte.

"I think it is closing in and we would like to make that fight in the early part of next year."

According to WBC rules, the fight is set to be ordered with a purse split of 55/45 in favour of the champion but it can be reasonably altered by the organisation at their 'discretion'.

Fury's purse demand has come after earning £20million for his third meeting with Wilder, while Whyte earned around £4m for his successful rematch with Alexander Povetkin.

Should issues arise between Fury and Whyte in arranging his mandatory shot, the 33-year-old could opt for a voluntary defence against Joe Joyce who is ranked the No.2 fighter in the division by the WBC.

Another option could be to wait for the completion of Joshua's rematch with Usyk to face the winner but would be unlikely to take to the ring until the second half of the year.

Thoughts?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 06:09

H8Usernames wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:58All these nutthugging idiots saying that Dillian deserves this or that. Fool doesn't deserve anything, but if he does then feel free to send him Your cash.

I’m sorry, perhaps something has been lost in translation.

Are you saying that fighters that work their way to the top of the rankings, emerging victorious in multiple eliminators, capturing multiple secondary titles, beating multiple top-ten world-rated opponents, whilst also paying millions of dollars to the WBC in sanctioning fees, don’t deserve to receive world title shots?

For sure, Dillian Whyte has earned a lot of money, because he regularly competes against the very best available opponents, but imagine what he could have earned had he been given his well-deserved world title shot four years ago?

Guy just lost by ko and he deserves a title shot so much?

What did Dillian do when he got his shot vs Joshua? Get koed and humiliated?

There are a few questions here.

A. Should abc organizations force obvious mandatory mismatches? I don't think they should. Or perhaps RJjr vs Richard Frazier was a great idea after all.

B. Does Tyson Fury owe Dillian something? Hell no. He is the champ and the belt is meaningless.

C. Against who would this well deserved title shot be? Someone who would obviously brutalize him? So you are saying that the fellow needs a beating?

I think that Dillian has participated in good fights and gotten overpaid for doing so. Some would say that someone owes him something for participating in those fights, if he is owed the wbc belt then in my opinion he can have it along with the IBU belt. He and Charr can talk about how they are these great champions with Shannon Briggs and Fres Oquendo.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 11:54

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 06:09

H8Usernames wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:58All these nutthugging idiots saying that Dillian deserves this or that. Fool doesn't deserve anything, but if he does then feel free to send him Your cash.

I’m sorry, perhaps something has been lost in translation.

Are you saying that fighters that work their way to the top of the rankings, emerging victorious in multiple eliminators, capturing multiple secondary titles, beating multiple top-ten world-rated opponents, whilst also paying millions of dollars to the WBC in sanctioning fees, don’t deserve to receive world title shots?

For sure, Dillian Whyte has earned a lot of money, because he regularly competes against the very best available opponents, but imagine what he could have earned had he been given his well-deserved world title shot four years ago?

Guy just lost by ko and he deserves a title shot so much?

What did Dillian do when he got his shot vs Joshua? Get koed and humiliated?

There are a few questions here.

A. Should abc organizations force obvious mandatory mismatches? I don't think they should. Or perhaps RJjr vs Richard Frazier was a great idea after all.

B. Does Tyson Fury owe Dillian something? Hell no. He is the champ and the belt is meaningless.

C. Against who would this well deserved title shot be? Someone who would obviously brutalize him? So you are saying that the fellow needs a beating?

I think that Dillian has participated in good fights and gotten overpaid for doing so. Some would say that someone owes him something for participating in those fights, if he is owed the wbc belt then in my opinion he can have it along with the IBU belt. He and Charr can talk about how they are these great champions with Shannon Briggs and Fres Oquendo.

Other than Usyk, who would you recommend Fury fight next?

Whyte's fought quite a few tough fights over the last few years.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 11:54

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 06:09

H8Usernames wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:58All these nutthugging idiots saying that Dillian deserves this or that. Fool doesn't deserve anything, but if he does then feel free to send him Your cash.

I’m sorry, perhaps something has been lost in translation.

Are you saying that fighters that work their way to the top of the rankings, emerging victorious in multiple eliminators, capturing multiple secondary titles, beating multiple top-ten world-rated opponents, whilst also paying millions of dollars to the WBC in sanctioning fees, don’t deserve to receive world title shots?

For sure, Dillian Whyte has earned a lot of money, because he regularly competes against the very best available opponents, but imagine what he could have earned had he been given his well-deserved world title shot four years ago?

Guy just lost by ko and he deserves a title shot so much?

What did Dillian do when he got his shot vs Joshua? Get koed and humiliated?

There are a few questions here.

A. Should abc organizations force obvious mandatory mismatches? I don't think they should. Or perhaps RJjr vs Richard Frazier was a great idea after all.

B. Does Tyson Fury owe Dillian something? Hell no. He is the champ and the belt is meaningless.

C. Against who would this well deserved title shot be? Someone who would obviously brutalize him? So you are saying that the fellow needs a beating?

I think that Dillian has participated in good fights and gotten overpaid for doing so. Some would say that someone owes him something for participating in those fights, if he is owed the wbc belt then in my opinion he can have it along with the IBU belt. He and Charr can talk about how they are these great champions with Shannon Briggs and Fres Oquendo.

Other than Usyk, who would you recommend Fury fight next?

Whyte's fought quite a few tough fights over the last few years.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 14:17

H8Usernames wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 11:54

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 06:09
I’m sorry, perhaps something has been lost in translation.

Are you saying that fighters that work their way to the top of the rankings, emerging victorious in multiple eliminators, capturing multiple secondary titles, beating multiple top-ten world-rated opponents, whilst also paying millions of dollars to the WBC in sanctioning fees, don’t deserve to receive world title shots?

For sure, Dillian Whyte has earned a lot of money, because he regularly competes against the very best available opponents, but imagine what he could have earned had he been given his well-deserved world title shot four years ago?

Guy just lost by ko and he deserves a title shot so much?

What did Dillian do when he got his shot vs Joshua? Get koed and humiliated?

There are a few questions here.

A. Should abc organizations force obvious mandatory mismatches? I don't think they should. Or perhaps RJjr vs Richard Frazier was a great idea after all.

B. Does Tyson Fury owe Dillian something? Hell no. He is the champ and the belt is meaningless.

C. Against who would this well deserved title shot be? Someone who would obviously brutalize him? So you are saying that the fellow needs a beating?

I think that Dillian has participated in good fights and gotten overpaid for doing so. Some would say that someone owes him something for participating in those fights, if he is owed the wbc belt then in my opinion he can have it along with the IBU belt. He and Charr can talk about how they are these great champions with Shannon Briggs and Fres Oquendo.

Other than Usyk, who would you recommend Fury fight next?

Whyte's fought quite a few tough fights over the last few years.

Yes he does deserve his chance,not like he'd be the first with a previous ko loss

ortiz had 2 goes.
Breazeale had 2 goes
Wilder had 1 go after getting ko'd
Joshu had 1 shot after getting ko'd
Molina had 2 goes
Stiverne,Arreola etc etc

bigjack wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 14:32

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 14:17

H8Usernames wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 11:54

Guy just lost by ko and he deserves a title shot so much?

What did Dillian do when he got his shot vs Joshua? Get koed and humiliated?

There are a few questions here.

A. Should abc organizations force obvious mandatory mismatches? I don't think they should. Or perhaps RJjr vs Richard Frazier was a great idea after all.

B. Does Tyson Fury owe Dillian something? Hell no. He is the champ and the belt is meaningless.

C. Against who would this well deserved title shot be? Someone who would obviously brutalize him? So you are saying that the fellow needs a beating?

I think that Dillian has participated in good fights and gotten overpaid for doing so. Some would say that someone owes him something for participating in those fights, if he is owed the wbc belt then in my opinion he can have it along with the IBU belt. He and Charr can talk about how they are these great champions with Shannon Briggs and Fres Oquendo.

Other than Usyk, who would you recommend Fury fight next?

Whyte's fought quite a few tough fights over the last few years.

Yes he does deserve his chance,not like he'd be the first with a previous ko loss

ortiz had 2 goes.
Breazeale had 2 goes
Wilder had 1 go after getting ko'd
Joshu had 1 shot after getting ko'd
Molina had 2 goes
Stiverne,Arreola etc etc

Sanity and reason restored to a thread that threatened to go wayward.

Of course Whyte has earned his shot.
Everyone knows. He put everything on the line in the Povetkin rematch. A fight he could easily have ducked in the first place.

To say otherwise would give even more powder to all the duckers and cherry pickers.

This is still supposedly a sport, isn't it?

Whether Whyte will get it or not is another matter.

Such is this dirty business of boxing.

Just more devaluing of the abc belt process, gives me an idea ...

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 06:09

H8Usernames wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:58All these nutthugging idiots saying that Dillian deserves this or that. Fool doesn't deserve anything, but if he does then feel free to send him Your cash.

I’m sorry, perhaps something has been lost in translation.

Are you saying that fighters that work their way to the top of the rankings, emerging victorious in multiple eliminators, capturing multiple secondary titles, beating multiple top-ten world-rated opponents, whilst also paying millions of dollars to the WBC in sanctioning fees, don’t deserve to receive world title shots?

Yeah, he's an idiot.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 14:17

H8Usernames wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 11:54

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 06:09
I’m sorry, perhaps something has been lost in translation.

Are you saying that fighters that work their way to the top of the rankings, emerging victorious in multiple eliminators, capturing multiple secondary titles, beating multiple top-ten world-rated opponents, whilst also paying millions of dollars to the WBC in sanctioning fees, don’t deserve to receive world title shots?

For sure, Dillian Whyte has earned a lot of money, because he regularly competes against the very best available opponents, but imagine what he could have earned had he been given his well-deserved world title shot four years ago?

Guy just lost by ko and he deserves a title shot so much?

What did Dillian do when he got his shot vs Joshua? Get koed and humiliated?

There are a few questions here.

A. Should abc organizations force obvious mandatory mismatches? I don't think they should. Or perhaps RJjr vs Richard Frazier was a great idea after all.

B. Does Tyson Fury owe Dillian something? Hell no. He is the champ and the belt is meaningless.

C. Against who would this well deserved title shot be? Someone who would obviously brutalize him? So you are saying that the fellow needs a beating?

I think that Dillian has participated in good fights and gotten overpaid for doing so. Some would say that someone owes him something for participating in those fights, if he is owed the wbc belt then in my opinion he can have it along with the IBU belt. He and Charr can talk about how they are these great champions with Shannon Briggs and Fres Oquendo.

Other than Usyk, who would you recommend Fury fight next?

Whyte's fought quite a few tough fights over the last few years.

In all honesty I would rather not see Usyk vs Fury.

If I was to make a hitlist for Fury it would go like this:

1. Joyce
2. AJ
3. Filip Hrgovic
4. Jared Anderson
5. Arslanbek Makhmudov

But to see Whyte's lame ass get koed by Fury just cause he allegedly fulfilled some conditions to get a title shot. Why would anyone want to see that formality take place?

H8Usernames wrote: ↑19 Nov 2021, 05:49

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 14:17

H8Usernames wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 11:54

Guy just lost by ko and he deserves a title shot so much?

What did Dillian do when he got his shot vs Joshua? Get koed and humiliated?

There are a few questions here.

A. Should abc organizations force obvious mandatory mismatches? I don't think they should. Or perhaps RJjr vs Richard Frazier was a great idea after all.

B. Does Tyson Fury owe Dillian something? Hell no. He is the champ and the belt is meaningless.

C. Against who would this well deserved title shot be? Someone who would obviously brutalize him? So you are saying that the fellow needs a beating?

I think that Dillian has participated in good fights and gotten overpaid for doing so. Some would say that someone owes him something for participating in those fights, if he is owed the wbc belt then in my opinion he can have it along with the IBU belt. He and Charr can talk about how they are these great champions with Shannon Briggs and Fres Oquendo.

Other than Usyk, who would you recommend Fury fight next?

Whyte's fought quite a few tough fights over the last few years.

In all honesty I would rather not see Usyk vs Fury.

If I was to make a hitlist for Fury it would go like this:

1. Joyce
2. AJ
3. Filip Hrgovic
4. Jared Anderson
5. Arslanbek Makhmudov

But to see Whyte's lame ass get koed by Fury just cause he allegedly fulfilled some conditions to get a title shot. Why would anyone want to see that formality take place?

Excluding AJ, Whyte has done way more than the rest of those named combined to deserve a title shot.
Why all of the Whyte hate?

tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Nov 2021, 21:26

H8Usernames wrote: ↑19 Nov 2021, 05:49

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 14:17

Other than Usyk, who would you recommend Fury fight next?

Whyte's fought quite a few tough fights over the last few years.

In all honesty I would rather not see Usyk vs Fury.

If I was to make a hitlist for Fury it would go like this:

1. Joyce
2. AJ
3. Filip Hrgovic
4. Jared Anderson
5. Arslanbek Makhmudov

But to see Whyte's lame ass get koed by Fury just cause he allegedly fulfilled some conditions to get a title shot. Why would anyone want to see that formality take place?

Excluding AJ, Whyte has done way more than the rest of those named combined to deserve a title shot.
Why all of the Whyte hate?

This Whyte has done stuff. Whyte has also exposed himself beyond repair by losing to Chisora and getting koed by Povetkin. It's childish to claim that he hasn't.

Whyte vs Fury is the equivalent of LL vs Byrd. Byrd had some great wins on his resume and was a good little fighter but nobody wanted to see Byrd fight LL, the sleezy promoters could even have promoted the bout as a Unification! fight since Byrd held some title but it would have been a horrible mismatch. Same applies for a Whyte vs Fury bout, its not a fight it's a pointless mismatch.

Acctually I'd like to see Whyte take part in good fights like against Joyce, that Swede or other contenders but I wouldn't waste my time tuning in to see him get sparked by Fury.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑20 Nov 2021, 04:42

tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Nov 2021, 21:26

H8Usernames wrote: ↑19 Nov 2021, 05:49

In all honesty I would rather not see Usyk vs Fury.

If I was to make a hitlist for Fury it would go like this:

1. Joyce
2. AJ
3. Filip Hrgovic
4. Jared Anderson
5. Arslanbek Makhmudov

But to see Whyte's lame ass get koed by Fury just cause he allegedly fulfilled some conditions to get a title shot. Why would anyone want to see that formality take place?

Excluding AJ, Whyte has done way more than the rest of those named combined to deserve a title shot.
Why all of the Whyte hate?

This Whyte has done stuff. Whyte has also exposed himself beyond repair by losing to Chisora and getting koed by Povetkin. It's childish to claim that he hasn't.

Whyte vs Fury is the equivalent of LL vs Byrd. Byrd had some great wins on his resume and was a good little fighter but nobody wanted to see Byrd fight LL, the sleezy promoters could even have promoted the bout as a Unification! fight since Byrd held some title but it would have been a horrible mismatch. Same applies for a Whyte vs Fury bout, its not a fight it's a pointless mismatch.

Acctually I'd like to see Whyte take part in good fights like against Joyce, that Swede or other contenders but I wouldn't waste my time tuning in to see him get sparked by Fury.

Well Whyte beat Chisora twice once by knock out. And yes he did get caught and knocked out by Povetkin but came back and won the rematch.
I'm not even a fan of Whyte's and I can not come up with a reason he would not deserve the first shot at Tyson.

Whyte would be an underdog but he has as much chance against Fury as almost anyone, and better than most.

Yes he lost to Povetkin but he was suckered onto a perfect shot by a wily old fox who has been avoided by most heavyweights throughout his career. He had been looking like stopping Povetkin in the first fight right up until the one shot finish, and he put that right in the rematch.

The record book shows he wasn't beaten by Chisora but I can see why many thought Chisora won the first one. It was undeniably close and Chisora will always be a difficult fight for a fighter like Whyte who is not fleet of foot.

Whyte crushed Chisora in the second fight, there can be no argument, even if he was behind on points at the time.

He has some good names on his resume in fact the only fighters with a better resume are Joshua and arguably Fury and Usyk. He deserves a shot at the title and anyone who disagrees with that cleary has an agenda.