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Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 17 Nov 2021, 13:20
by apollo creed
Anyway, Makuba is a small CW and he's looking more accessible size-wise to Canelo but anyway it would be a good win for him.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 17 Nov 2021, 13:40
by peter barlow
I would like Bivol to face Beterbiev in a unification in Moscow. Then we'll know which is the real deal. Quite unlikely though.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 17 Nov 2021, 13:48
by Cent0089
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 17 Nov 2021, 14:55
by gregregegg
I can see why they want it now rather than waiting, Might be the easiest cruiserweight shot for a long while. Id rather him fight benivedez, then go for undisputed at 175, then look at cruiser. But by then who knows who the cruiser champ will be in 2 years time, so if canelo wants to snipe this then back to 175 (or 168) then fair enough.
What would canelo weigh in at? surely he wouldent put on much more than he is now, but what is he now? 180ish?
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 17 Nov 2021, 14:58
by apollo creed
peter barlow wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 13:40
I would like Bivol to face Beterbiev in a unification in Moscow. Then we'll know which is the real deal. Quite unlikely though.
That would be awesome but ain't gonna happen. Both fighters are coddling their belts for Canelo payday.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 17 Nov 2021, 15:03
by HomicideHenry
He'll do what he did with Kovalev, beat the champ and then go back down in weight. He's not sticking around at cruiserweight. But quite frankly I am tired of Canelo getting all of these title shots that he hasn't earned and I hope that he gets knocked on his ass by someone he perceives to be no threat.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 17 Nov 2021, 15:05
by apollo creed
gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 14:55
I can see why they want it now rather than waiting, Might be the easiest cruiserweight shot for a long while. Id rather him fight benivedez, then go for undisputed at 175, then look at cruiser.
But by then who knows who the cruiser champ will be in 2 years time, so if canelo wants to snipe this then back to 175 (or 168) then fair enough.
What would canelo weigh in at? surely he wouldent put on much more than he is now, but what is he now? 180ish?
Yup. Makabu is there to be taken and he would look good as a win on Canelo's resume. Makabu would be a better win than Kovalev or Callum Smith. I wonder if it would be a rehydration clause?
Anyway Makabu would have plenty of time to get ready for Canelo.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 17 Nov 2021, 15:17
by apollo creed
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:03
He'll do what he did with Kovalev, beat the champ and then go back down in weight. He's not sticking around at cruiserweight. But quite frankly I am tired of Canelo getting all of these title shots that he hasn't earned and I hope that he gets knocked on his ass by someone he perceives to be no threat.
Well he's the money man and even if he'd get KTFO, he'd have a rematch clause.
Imo if Canelo would beat Makabu, Beterbiev, Bivol and Joe Smith would be hands down an ATG.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 17 Nov 2021, 15:18
by apollo creed
I think Makabu may fight first Thabiso Mchunu.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 17 Nov 2021, 19:05
by Mexi-Box
apollo creed wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:18
I think Makabu may fight first Thabiso Mchunu.
Yeah, risk it against Mchunu for peanuts instead of making his highest payday against Canelo. You can't be serious right now, man.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 00:14
by margaret thatcher
very good case you can make for the thread title being true, but all would be good wins so im good with any of them
my preference would be to him to focus on being undisputed at 175 - bert, bivy, big bangin' salami joe
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 03:56
by DrDuke
Picking Makabu at CW is like picking Kovalev at LHW back then. Canelo picked the most vulnerable champions in these divisions.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 05:26
by apollo creed
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 19:05
apollo creed wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:18
I think Makabu may fight first Thabiso Mchunu.
Yeah, risk it against Mchunu for peanuts instead of making his highest payday against Canelo. You can't be serious right now, man.
Well, business wise you're right, it's common sense, but Mchunu may be his mandatory first. It depends on wbc's boss.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 05:28
by apollo creed
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 00:14
very good case you can make for the thread title being true, but all would be good wins so im good with any of them
my preference would be to him to focus on being undisputed at 175 -
bert, bivy, big bangin' salami joe
Indeed bc those guys are more proven and they have better wins.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 05:31
by Enlightened-One
It’s kind of weird to see Canelo receive criticism for the calibre of opposition he’s facing, with people saying there are better fighters out there he could be fighting, which is an opinion I can appreciate.
However, why aren’t the same people applying the same high standards to Beterbiev, Bivol & Benavidez… or for that matter Charlo and Andrade?
Am I missing something?
• Why aren’t Charlo and Andrade facing each other to earn the right to fight Canelo?
• Why aren’t Beterbiev and Bivol facing each other to earn the right to fight Canelo?
• Why does Benavidez keep throwing away his world title and facing lacklustre opposition?
It seems that fight fans no longer care about fighters earning their opportunities nowadays.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 05:37
by apollo creed
DrDuke wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 03:56
Picking Makabu at CW is like picking Kovalev at LHW back then. Canelo picked the most vulnerable champions in these divisions.
Well yes, Makabu is aint Usyk, Gassiev or Mairis Briedis but he's a strong CW champion. He's a much stronger fighter than the version of Kovalev that fought Canelo. Also Makabu will have plenty of time to get ready for Canelo.
As I said Makabu would be a better win tha Kovalev or Callum Smith.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 05:40
by Enlightened-One
apollo creed wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 05:37He's a much stronger fighter than the version of Kovalev that fought Canelo. Also Makabu will have plenty of time to get ready for Canelo.
To be fair, discussions for the Canelo-Kovalev bout commenced eight months prior and terms were agreed roughly three months later.
Krusher claimed he wanted to maintain a busy schedule prior to facing Canelo.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 08:15
by apollo creed
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 05:31
It’s kind of weird to see Canelo receive criticism for the calibre of opposition he’s facing, with people saying there are better fighters out there he could be fighting, which is an opinion I can appreciate.
However, why aren’t the same people applying the same high standards to Beterbiev, Bivol & Benavidez… or for that matter Charlo and Andrade?
Am I missing something?
• Why aren’t Charlo and Andrade facing each other to earn the right to fight Canelo?
• Why aren’t Beterbiev and Bivol facing each other to earn the right to fight Canelo?
• Why does Benavidez keep throwing away his world title and facing lacklustre opposition?
It seems that fight fans no longer care about fighters earning their opportunities nowadays.
True, and believe me I'd like to see those guys mixing up each other in fights but tbh it's all about the big paydays of Canelo. Business wise those guys would be reckless to risk their belts in some "peanuts" money fights and not wait for Canelo's call. Also Bivol, Beterbiev and Joe have good resumes. They have no poor resumes like Charlo, Andrade or Benavidez.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 11:01
by bobcatbox
It’s this pound for pound era. That’s the only reason Makabu is appealing.
That being said I will buy the fight, and I will love it.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 12:15
by apollo creed
Would this fight be at 200lbs or 190 lbs with an obvious rehydration clause?
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 13:14
by Bandog
Canelo vs one of the Paul brothers would be PPV worthy, much more than Ortiz vs Martin.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 13:52
by jamesmcdonnell
bobcatbox wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 11:01
It’s this pound for pound era. That’s the only reason Makabu is appealing.
That being said I will buy the fight, and I will love it.
Agreed, because there's a fair chance that Canelo gets caught and stopped at that weight division. He will be in against a much naturally bigger man.
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 20:37
by watsupdoc87
apollo creed wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:17
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑17 Nov 2021, 15:03
He'll do what he did with Kovalev, beat the champ and then go back down in weight. He's not sticking around at cruiserweight. But quite frankly I am tired of Canelo getting all of these title shots that he hasn't earned and I hope that he gets knocked on his ass by someone he perceives to be no threat.
Well he's the money man and even if he'd get KTFO, he'd have a rematch clause.
Imo if Canelo would beat Makabu, Beterbiev, Bivol and Joe Smith would be hands down an ATG.
He will not beat Smith jr, the Irish bomber will take his fukin head clean off
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 19 Nov 2021, 01:36
by bobcatbox
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 13:52
bobcatbox wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 11:01
It’s this pound for pound era. That’s the only reason Makabu is appealing.
That being said I will buy the fight, and I will love it.
Agreed, because there's a fair chance that Canelo gets caught and stopped at that weight division. He will be in against a much naturally bigger man.
Yeah man it’s pure intrigue more than a great boxing match. Would love to see CA do it though. That’ll be sick. Then he can fight the best at 175. Or hell idk is there any stopping this man? Is he the future of Bridgerweight?
Re: Makabu would get stopped by Canelo. It would be a good win, but imo Bivol or Beterbiev would be better wins.
Posted: 19 Nov 2021, 01:45
by Enlightened-One
apollo creed wrote: ↑18 Nov 2021, 12:15
Would this fight be at 200lbs or 190 lbs?
190lbs, because that's the WBC's official weight limit for the cruiserweight division.
Canelo told the media he'll enter the ring around the 180lbs mark.
