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Spoke to Lovemore again last night
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 04:19
by DavidPayne
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 05:19
by J
bugger, what a shame.
thanks tho David your been A1 on this one mate, cheers for the constant updates! Good work fella even if it is a bringing bad news

Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 05:38
by jomothepure
You can see it from N'Dou's point of view if he is serious about his ambition and wants the WBC eliminator.
Still, you'd think Hennessay would have such a thing as a fax machine to make clear the position before N'Dou squandered his Quantas airmiles
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 06:38
by knockout
great work David!!!
N'dou makes a good point about the shit contract... i think once he was in LA they thought that he would sign anything "as he was already there and in training"... not saying this is what happened or that if that is what happend only Hennesey would do that. i think it is a powerful tool used by promoters...
Universum have used it to there advantage in recent years.... Branco was due to fight Ulrich, Ulrich was sick..... so they offered Branco a replacement in Drews.... A shit fight for branco but they knew after all the training expenses and the like he wouldnt turn it down..... same thing happened in another universum fight but it escapes me at the moment.
obviously N'dou is string enough to turn it down!!! good luck to him!!
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 07:10
by Matchfixer
Hmm not convinced. I can understand is anger if the situation is as described but why request an eliminator - does he deserve one (possibly) and would he win the title anyway (Not likely)?
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 09:42
by knockout
at the end of the day Ndou owes hennesey, witter or us guys fornicate ALL!!!!
its his choice, sure it would have been a great match.... but its his career..... he has fought at last minute against top names before and lost close decisions..... he has shown his heart and bravery
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 09:52
by lirva33
What the hell is Witter wanting rematch clauses for? What happened to his confidence. 20 grand for ndou? That is an insult to him.
No wonder he fucked off.
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 10:07
by jamesmcdonnell
The rematch clause if at all, was probably the promoter's idea, not Witter's. I can understand N'dou's decision
20 grand is not a bad paday, Pinto was offered $50,000 to fight Hatton, so 20 grand isn't bad at all, as this isn't the main event.
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 10:11
by DavidPayne
$20k for aknown name to fly half way round the world for a supposed WBC eliminator is shit.
He'll be lucky to break even on the trip.
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 10:26
by Kilburn
It's a big shame but all things considered this match shouldn't happen and that's the end of it. If N'Dou took the fight and lost everyone would be saying how foolish he'd been.
Hopefully they will get it on down the line seeing as there doesn't appear to be much of a rift between the promoters. It's the perfect step up for Witter, the kind Ricky Hatton should be taking IMO rather than leaping right up to King Kostya in one go.
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 10:52
by jamesmcdonnell
DavidPayne wrote:$20k for aknown name to fly half way round the world for a supposed WBC eliminator is shit.
He'll be lucky to break even on the trip.
It happens all the time, it may be shit, but there's nothing unusual about it. N'dou is a name, but not a ticket seller.
Look how much DLH gave Yori Boy Campas, $50,000 I seem to recall, DLH got 20 times that much, and that was a main event.
I thought he was offered £20,000 which is $40,000. .
As I said, Witter is not the big name on the bill, it's a supporting fight.
To be honest though, I think N'dou has done the right thing by himself, if he lost again, he really does just become a stepping stone. He needs to actually take a fight and win it, instead of always coming in at short notice, it's career suicide.
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 11:05
by Freiheit
DavidPayne wrote:$20k for aknown name to fly half way round the world for a supposed WBC eliminator is shit.
He'll be lucky to break even on the trip.
Johnny Bredahl got $10k for fighting Paulie Ayala (Ayala got $1,5mill)
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 11:05
by DavidPayne
Nope it was $20k
I know what your saying, opponents get peanuts but even on that basis I think $20k on 21 days notice for an Eliminator was shallow.
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 11:06
by jamesmcdonnell
Yeah. That is pretty tight. Then again, who is to say Witter is on a fat wedge?
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 11:10
by DavidPayne
Freiheit wrote:DavidPayne wrote:$20k for aknown name to fly half way round the world for a supposed WBC eliminator is shit.
He'll be lucky to break even on the trip.
Johnny Bredahl got $10k for fighting Paulie Ayala (Ayala got $1,5mill)
Well Bredahl is dafter than he looks then.
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 11:26
by Kilburn
Freiheit wrote:
Johnny Bredahl got $10k for fighting Paulie Ayala (Ayala got $1,5mill)
You'd have to be on drugs to accept a deal like that.
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 11:53
by Freiheit
He tourght that he would have a good chance of winning, and it could have been his only chance for winning a world title. I think he got at least the danish TV rights also.
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 12:03
by knockout
like Freiheit suggests it wouldnt have been stupid if he won and defended at home for $500000 a go....
Judah did something similar recently and won...... Bredhal took a risk and it didnt pay off
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 12:04
by hitterwitter
Has Mick Hennesay said anything about this yet?? I've got a feelin witter my do what n'dous done and go home with out fighting.
I thought n'dou stepping in for branco was to good to be true.
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 13:11
by Kilburn
Judah got $100,000 to face Spinks again. Not a lot but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have fought for 10k.
Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 15:46
by knockout
Kilburn wrote:Judah got $100,000 to face Spinks again. Not a lot but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have fought for 10k.
true, but Judah was getting huge purses before so relatively there probably isnt much difference
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Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 16:33
by nickd
Kilburn wrote:Freiheit wrote:
Johnny Bredahl got $10k for fighting Paulie Ayala (Ayala got $1,5mill)
You'd have to be on drugs to accept a deal like that.
Paulie Ayala v Pete Doherty anyone?

Posted: 17 Feb 2005, 16:45
by Nels
007 wrote...
>> Paulie Ayala versus Pete Doherty
I'd pay to watch that; I think Ayala would do him. Actually I'd pay more to see Vitali Klitkenstein against Doherty.
I had to interview the little twat back when he was in that awful Jam covers band (oops, I mean the Libertines) and he hadn't sold any records and he was a complete cretin then.