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Leo Randolph,he's a fighter that so much was talked about his potential,then after he lost and retired,it's like he never existed.

Sugar Ray Seales is another. It seems the most he's mentioned is about him fighting while blind,not a lot about his fights.

Joe Mesi

There's also a white light heavyweight
I remember featured in a boxing magazine,they compared to Muhammad Ali. Much hyperbole im sure but I cant remember his name? Maybe James Salerno?

zuru wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 22:41

There's also a white light heavyweight
I remember featured in a boxing magazine,they compared to Muhammad Ali. Much hyperbole im sure but I cant remember his name? Maybe James Salerno?

This guy?

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=52607&start=25


I done below post about him in 2014 but it never got a response...

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=178223

Controversial wrote: ↑27 Dec 2021, 09:29

zuru wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 22:41

There's also a white light heavyweight
I remember featured in a boxing magazine,they compared to Muhammad Ali. Much hyperbole im sure but I cant remember his name? Maybe James Salerno?

This guy?

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=52607&start=25


I done below post about him in 2014 but it never got a response...

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=178223

Controversial
Yes sir,thank you. That is him.
Off my head I remember him being 6'3',a fast handed Muhammad Ali box alike.
It wasn't uncommon in those magazines to feature and hype up and coming fighters that you never heard of again. But Salerno stuck out for some reason.
As did Dorian Melamed,who I forgot but just saw his name in the amateur section.

zuru wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 22:41 Leo Randolph,he's a fighter that so much was talked about his potential,then after he lost and retired,it's like he never existed.

Sugar Ray Seales is another. It seems the most he's mentioned is about him fighting while blind,not a lot about his fights.

Joe Mesi

There's also a white light heavyweight
I remember featured in a boxing magazine,they compared to Muhammad Ali. Much hyperbole im sure but I cant remember his name? Maybe James Salerno?

Randolph quit at 22 after being plastered by a relatively light-punching Sergio Palma. Really too bad because his title winning fight with Cardona was really good, but Palma hurt him early and seemed to hurt Randolph throughout. I seem to remember Randolph decided he didn’t have the killer instinct for boxing, despite his stellar amateur career and a nice TKO to win a belt at 122

Giving this a bump. Expand the fighter topic. It’s interesting to hear about guys who may have been overlooked or forgotten. The ultra big names are interesting also but there’s a lot more

Jackie Beard. Seemed like a can’t miss. Fought on a card with him too. I thought for sure he was headed for huge success also. That night he beat Victor Flores by decision I believe. Flores showed a lot of heart hanging tough with Jackie.

Pete Ranzany. Real solid contender back in the 70s -80s. Fought Benitez, Cuevas, Mccrory, shields, Ogrady. Always brought it.

zuru wrote: ↑26 Dec 2021, 22:41 Leo Randolph,he's a fighter that so much was talked about his potential,then after he lost and retired,it's like he never existed.

Sugar Ray Seales is another. It seems the most he's mentioned is about him fighting while blind,not a lot about his fights.

Joe Mesi

There's also a white light heavyweight
I remember featured in a boxing magazine,they compared to Muhammad Ali. Much hyperbole im sure but I cant remember his name? Maybe James Salerno?

It sounds shocking today but Seales almost got a shot at Marvin Hagler for the undisputed world middleweight title. Seales, of course, had held Hagler to a 10-round draw in 1974, having previously dropped a 10-round decision to the Marvelous one. They met a third time in 1979 and this time Hagler made no mistake as he destroyed Sugar Ray inside a round. A year later, Seales looked just about finished when the strong and rangy Dwight Davison stopped him in 10 rounds but then Davison got bumped off by Tony Sibson in a world title eliminator and Seales started winning, including fine wins over the dangerous duo of Sammy Nesmith and John LoCicero. Ray was back in the rankings and Marvin was up for a defence against him.
Fortunately, a young James Shuler did everyone a favour when he outscored Seales over 12 rounds in late 1982 and by early 1983, the revelation that the fighter's eyesight was in a terrible state broke in the boxing press and the former Olympic champion has struggled ever since. By all accounts, Seales can see out of one eye with thick glasses on and at times out of both eyes but the vision in one eye comes and goes. They say he still drives. To quote the doctor who first confirmed Ray's limited vision in 1983: "He probably shouldn't be driving."

Mexican fighter Quirino Garcia (sometimes spelt Kirino Garcia). He lost his first 18 fights but ended up in a few title fights and ended up with wins over Jorge Vaca, Terrance Alli, Frankie Randell, Meldrick Taylor and Simon Brown. Albeit most were near the end of their careers but Garcia also lost decisions to highly touted David Reid and Danny Green. I think the decision lost to Reid was an unpopular decision too.

Record recorded as 40(29)-28-4 but I think he fought a lot more under other names.

Controversial wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 08:20 Mexican fighter Quirino Garcia (sometimes spelt Kirino Garcia). He lost his first 18 fights but ended up in a few title fights and ended up with wins over Jorge Vaca, Terrance Alli, Frankie Randell, Meldrick Taylor and Simon Brown. Albeit most were near the end of their careers but Garcia also lost decisions to highly touted David Reid and Danny Green. I think the decision lost to Reid was an unpopular decision too.

Record recorded as 40(29)-28-4 but I think he fought a lot more under other names.

I remember Garcia. It’s unreal to turn it around like that. I was just looking at his record after you posted this. It’s interesting that he was thrown in against an undefeated guy in a ten rounder and lost a decision. He must have performed well in that fight because subsequently he was still given decent fights that he could win. Sure enough, he did a helluva lot better. Most fighters after losing their first dozen or so fights, are gonna find themselves thrown to the wolves in overmatched out of town fights.

Expug wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 09:24

Controversial wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 08:20 Mexican fighter Quirino Garcia (sometimes spelt Kirino Garcia). He lost his first 18 fights but ended up in a few title fights and ended up with wins over Jorge Vaca, Terrance Alli, Frankie Randell, Meldrick Taylor and Simon Brown. Albeit most were near the end of their careers but Garcia also lost decisions to highly touted David Reid and Danny Green. I think the decision lost to Reid was an unpopular decision too.

Record recorded as 40(29)-28-4 but I think he fought a lot more under other names.

I remember Garcia. It’s unreal to turn it around like that. I was just looking at his record after you posted this. It’s interesting that he was thrown in against an undefeated guy in a ten rounder and lost a decision. He must have performed well in that fight because subsequently he was still given decent fights that he could win. Sure enough, he did a helluva lot better. Most fighters after losing their first dozen or so fights, are gonna find themselves thrown to the wolves in overmatched out of town fights.

I'm guessing it was a mixture of home town decisions and maybe him deliberately acting the role of the journeyman and holding back so he could get regular fights. Interesting career no doubt.

That sounds likely. He reminds me a bit of the start Freddie Pendleton had also. First 25 or so fights he looked to be up and down. Looking like a journey man but really caught fire after.

Randy Leaks

Expug wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 14:43 That sounds likely. He reminds me a bit of the start Freddie Pendleton had also. First 25 or so fights he looked to be up and down. Looking like a journey man but really caught fire after.

What happened with Freddie against Ed Pollard? Freddie was the reigning IBF lightweight champ when he ticked over in a non-title fight with Pollard, a southpaw who goads Freddie at the end of the third round and Freddie just loses it. See from the 9:55 mark.

Don't hear much about the first "Billion $Dollar Athlete" either.

Benny Deathpaine.
He was a great puncher
( 15 one-round knock-outs)

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/61044

I would have never heard of him if Archie Moore
hadn't mentioned his name as amongst the greatest lightning-fast punchers
in his 1971 autobiography