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Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 01 Jan 2022, 06:44
by apollo creed
“That fight has really no pizzazz to it,” Arum told IFL TV. “Bivol is a very good boxer. Sort of [a] boring fighter.”
“You know, again, people look at the light heavyweight division, they want to see shootouts,” Arum said. “[For example], Beterbiev’s last fight with Browne. Like this upcoming Smith fight with Callum Johnson.
“Bivol is an excellent boxer, but he’s sort of boring to watch.” @ bs
Thats very disappointing. So we may see Beterbiev staying safe till Canelo is calling him out. Beterbiev is getting old and he looks more inactive inside the ring being reluctant in throwing punches. Canelo would stop him, easy.
I hope Bivol would fight Zurdo Ramirez in 2022.
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 01 Jan 2022, 06:59
by lazboy
Sick of Arum.
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 01 Jan 2022, 07:15
by apollo creed
Its a really pity that the best fighters at 175 would not face each other.
Bivol's boxing skills would trouble Beterbiev.
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 01 Jan 2022, 07:46
by DrDuke
Another matchup out of the best possible today that ain't gonna happen. A common thing with good fights.

Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 01 Jan 2022, 08:19
by apollo creed
DrDuke wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 07:46
Another matchup out of the best possible today that ain't gonna happen. A common thing with good fights.
Maybe it would be Beterbiev vs Joe Smith Jr but probably not before both would get the Canelo big payday.
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 01 Jan 2022, 10:27
by Enlightened-One
Anonymous world champions that don’t generate much revenue rarely cross to the other side of the proverbial street (i.e. ESPN/Top Rank vs. DAZN/Matchroom), especially when there’s every likelihood of receiving a mega Canelo payday within the next twelve months.
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 01 Jan 2022, 10:52
by apollo creed
So they would keep their belts safe and wait for Canelo's call.

Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 01 Jan 2022, 12:58
by ironbeard
The sight of Arum reeks. His words scream creep, especially in his slimy voice.
Other than that . . .
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wtf is he talking about?
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 01 Jan 2022, 13:18
by gregregegg
Fuk. This is the type of statement that makes me sad to follow boxing. Even if its not the fight you want to make at least talk it up rather than shit on it.
Its a unification, 1 vs 2, russia vs russia, KO artist vs technician, in the division with the money man so that brings extra intrest (most likely next year or 2)... if it has no pizzazz its because the promoters havent given it any pizzazz.
I mean i obviously expect both to wait for the canelo pay day, but at least tease us a little.
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 01 Jan 2022, 13:41
by Thomastearns
Arum is an obsessed avaricious businessman.
His relationship to boxing is purely coincidental.
He'd be just as problematic selling used cars.
Or trading in horse meat.
Perhaps somewhere in his labrynthian mind he believes what he's doing is best for the sport, but the fact remains he's just another aging creep with serious delusional problems, not to mention huge OCD issues.
Yep, he's boxings version of Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, Killary Clinton, Joe Brandon etc.
Someone should have a quiet word with him.
They really should.
I guess someone like Eddie Hearn may have to eventually do it. Security at the ready.
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 01 Jan 2022, 14:03
by giacomino
Eff Arum. Beterbiev v Bivol is the fight between the two best lt. heavyweights. Canelo is the money fight for both but I’m not really interested in another few years of Beterbiev and Bivol slapping around obviously inferior opponents in “title defenses” when they should be fighting each other. We had the same thing in the late 1990s, early 2000s with Roy Jones and Michalczewski beating up lt. heavy opponents for years but not fighting each other
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 01 Jan 2022, 20:26
by Enlightened-One
apollo creed wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 10:52
So they would keep their belts safe and wait for Canelo's call.
I’m not saying that’s what they SHOULD do, but I am claiming that’s ACTUALLY what they ARE DOING.
The middleweight and light heavyweight divisions are appalling at the moment.
There are far too many fighters taking easy fights to avoid risking the Canelo payday.
Benavidez, Charlo, Bivol, Andrade, and based on Arum’s recent comments, we might as well include Beterbiev amongst that group too.
I don’t know how you feel about it, but all those fighters pïśś me off, but if you want to continue supporting them, then that’s your prerogative.
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 02 Jan 2022, 02:26
by Evander
Bob is just putting his pizzazz on it.
It really is a good match up for many reasons.
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 02 Jan 2022, 09:05
by Lackeos
I get that it probably won't draw a whole lot of money relative to their p4p statuses, when you consider that they're both Russians who haven't build-up really big profiles. But this fight would be a big deal for boxing fans. The winner would be an immensely considerable threat for Alvarez. And the Alvarez - winner fight would be a very important boost for Alvarez's legacy. Pretty much the most important storyline that could play out in boxing right now along with Fury - Usyk and Crawford - Spence.
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 02 Jan 2022, 09:18
by NateJR
So the best possible fight between the 2 best guys in the divison has no "PIZZAZZ"? GTFO of here Arum, this is what's wrong with this sport in a nutshell. No governing body looking out for the sport to prevent leeches like Arum blocking the best fights from happening.
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 02 Jan 2022, 12:13
by apollo creed
giacomino wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 14:03
Eff Arum. Beterbiev v Bivol is the fight between the two best lt. heavyweights. Canelo is the money fight for both but I’m not really interested in another few years of Beterbiev and Bivol slapping around obviously inferior opponents in “title defenses” when they should be fighting each other. We had the same thing in the late 1990s, early 2000s with Roy Jones and Michalczewski beating up lt. heavy opponents for years but not fighting each other
Its sad to see that. We know that its a business and every fighter wants to get that big payday asap to secure his financial future but c'mon, boxing fans should open their eyes and stop paying their hard earned money forever for “title defenses” poor fights.
Many people are risking their health and their lives doing their hard jobs for a living but ain't get NO M's and some of them not even H's(100's).
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Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 02 Jan 2022, 12:22
by apollo creed
Lackeos wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 09:05
I get that it probably won't draw a whole lot of money relative to their p4p statuses, when you consider that they're both Russians who haven't build-up really big profiles. But this fight would be a big deal for boxing fans. The winner would be an immensely considerable threat for Alvarez. And the Alvarez - winner fight would be a very important boost for Alvarez's legacy. Pretty much the most important storyline that could play out in boxing right now along with Fury - Usyk and Crawford - Spence.
True.
This is what is killing the sport. Beterbiev vs Bivol winner; Benavidez vs Andrade/Charlo winner would be some legit-proven opponents for Canelo.
Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 02 Jan 2022, 12:27
by apollo creed
NateJR wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 09:18
So the best possible fight between the 2 best guys in the divison has no "PIZZAZZ"? GTFO of here Arum, this is what's wrong with this sport in a nutshell. No governing body looking out for the sport to prevent leeches like Arum blocking the best fights from happening.
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Re: Arum on a Beterbiev vs Bivol fight : “That fight has really no pizzazz to it”
Posted: 02 Jan 2022, 12:37
by apollo creed
gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 13:18
Fuk. This is the type of statement that makes me sad to follow boxing. Even if its not the fight you want to make at least talk it up rather than shit on it.
Its a unification, 1 vs 2, russia vs russia, KO artist vs technician, in the division with the money man so that brings extra intrest (most likely next year or 2)... if it has no pizzazz its because the promoters havent given it any pizzazz.
I mean i obviously expect both to wait for the canelo pay day, but at least tease us a little.
When cherrypicking goes wrong, then they hurry to cash in. So, cherrypicking going wrong its a good thing for boxing especially when we see fighters protecting their 0 or their trinkets so badly.
