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Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 14:49
by 595179
Some people in the media are completely writing off Anthony Joshua if he loses the rematch to Usyk, I think he does lose to Usyk, but that is far from the end of the road. AJ will come back against lesser opponents, knock them out and look to get back to the top.
My question for you BoxRec Boxing Historians is....
Which great fighters have suffered back to back defeats against the same opponent and gone on to achieve great things?
Shane Mosley comes to mind for me and to a certain extent, Floyd Patterson.
Any others?
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 15:30
by Perseus
Bernard Hopkins
Probably didn't "achieve great things" but Arturo Gatti did some of his best work after losing two straight to Ivan Robinson.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 15:33
by oogiebe
Joe Walcott was my first thought.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 16:41
by Ambling Alp II
Marco Antonio Barrera lost to Junior Jones twice and went on to have a great career.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 17:06
by 595179
Terry Norris..... technically.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 20:59
by Perseus
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 02:14
by DrDuke
Archie Moore couldn't handle Ezzard Charles, went 0-3 vs him.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 08:21
by bwu
Mike Weaver started his career with two losses to Howard Smith.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 08:26
by Ruthless-RKO
Roman Chocolatito Gonzalez lost two in a row to Rungvisai.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 08:29
by Ruthless-RKO
Was gonna say Roy Jones, against Tarver, but he had a KO loss against Glen Johnson in between.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 10:12
by Ambling Alp II
595179 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2022, 14:49
Some people in the media are completely writing off Anthony Joshua if he loses the rematch to Usyk, I think he does lose to Usyk, but that is far from the end of the road. AJ will come back against lesser opponents, knock them out and look to get back to the top.
My question for you BoxRec Boxing Historians is....
Which great fighters have suffered back to back defeats against the same opponent and gone on to achieve great things?
Shane Mosley comes to mind for me and to a certain extent, Floyd Patterson.
Any others?
595179- seems to be some confusion.
If Fighter A loses to Fighter B, beat someone else, then loses to fighter B again, then goes on to achieve great things, does that count?
i.e. Archie Moore losing to Ezzard Charles.
Or does it literally have to be two fights in a row?
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 15:01
by 595179
DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Jan 2022, 02:14
Archie Moore couldn't handle Ezzard Charles, went 0-3 vs him.
But he didn't lose back to back fights against him.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 15:03
by 595179
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑28 Jan 2022, 10:12
595179 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2022, 14:49
Some people in the media are completely writing off Anthony Joshua if he loses the rematch to Usyk, I think he does lose to Usyk, but that is far from the end of the road. AJ will come back against lesser opponents, knock them out and look to get back to the top.
My question for you BoxRec Boxing Historians is....
Which great fighters have suffered back to back defeats against the same opponent and gone on to achieve great things?
Shane Mosley comes to mind for me and to a certain extent, Floyd Patterson.
Any others?
595179- seems to be some confusion.
If Fighter A loses to Fighter B, beat someone else, then loses to fighter B again, then goes on to achieve great things, does that count?
i.e. Archie Moore losing to Ezzard Charles.
Or does it literally have to be two fights in a row?
Two fights in a row Mr Alp, hence the back to back in the title.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 15:12
by dan28uk
tyson to holyfield
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 15:17
by Perseus
dan28uk wrote: ↑28 Jan 2022, 15:12
tyson to holyfield
What did Mike accomplish after the losses to Evander?
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 15:24
by DrDuke
Perseus wrote: ↑28 Jan 2022, 15:17
dan28uk wrote: ↑28 Jan 2022, 15:12
tyson to holyfield
What did Mike accomplish after the losses to Evander?
Iced Etienne with a thpinal injury.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 15:25
by 595179
mercman wrote: ↑28 Jan 2022, 06:15
Alan Minter lost twice in succession to fellow Brit Jan Magdziarz.
Minter went on to become undisputed world champion; Magdziarz won an area title and finished with a record of 15-10-1.
Good call sir.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 15:25
by oogiebe
DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Jan 2022, 15:24
Perseus wrote: ↑28 Jan 2022, 15:17
dan28uk wrote: ↑28 Jan 2022, 15:12
tyson to holyfield
What did Mike accomplish after the losses to Evander?
Iced Etienne with a thpinal injury.
And he was ethtatic about it.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 15:55
by dan28uk
Perseus wrote: ↑28 Jan 2022, 15:17
dan28uk wrote: ↑28 Jan 2022, 15:12
tyson to holyfield
What did Mike accomplish after the losses to Evander?
did he not go on to challenge for the world title again ?
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 21:59
by Perseus
That is not an accomplishment.
He got that title shot because he is Mike Tyson.
The Mike Tyson of world wide fame.
He was that Mike Tyson long before he lost two in a row to Holyfield.
What did he accomplish after losing two in a row to Holyfield?
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 29 Jan 2022, 06:32
by giacomino
Carlos Baldomir lost consecutive fights to Ariel Gabriel Chaves for the Argentine welterweight belt early in his career and went on the win the WBC WW belt about a decade later
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 29 Jan 2022, 09:18
by elmersalsa
The great Muhammad Ali lost twice in a row to Ken Norton in my view and achieved great things when he beat the great George Foreman.
To me, Norton won the 3 fights with The Greatest.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 29 Jan 2022, 09:40
by bwu
Lew Jenkins suffered back to back split decision losses to Willie Joyce in ‘39. Jenkins won the world lightweight title the next year.
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 29 Jan 2022, 10:42
by giacomino
Ike Williams, while the world lightweight champ, lost consecutive decisions to Kid Gavilan, who was a welterweight, but went on to defend his lightweight title several more times
Re: Back To Back Defeats To The Same Opponent
Posted: 29 Jan 2022, 17:14
by Roco
Mancini lost to Bramble twice.
