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Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 05 Feb 2022, 18:34
by Crease
So who would make your British & Irish top 10 of this century, only those fighters who gave never held a World Championship...
Should make for interesting reading...
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 05 Feb 2022, 19:30
by margaret thatcher
eubank jr? unless you count ibo or interim belts
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 05 Feb 2022, 19:32
by knockout
Some names to start Macklin , Murray , Ryder, Whyte, Joyce , Mitchell, Brodie
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 05 Feb 2022, 20:05
by dr_devious
Howard Eastman
Luke Campbell
Michael Brodie
Jamie Moore
Ryan Rhodes
Matthew Hatton
Matthew Macklin
Martin Murray
Kevin Mitchell
Andrew Selby
Ten names off the top of my head, probably not the definitive top 10
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 05 Feb 2022, 20:08
by emallini
Micheal Brodie
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 05 Feb 2022, 20:16
by gregregegg
or the current ones Whyte has to be up there (not on tallent on resume though), joyce two while sticking to current heavys. Eubank Jr for sure up there.
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 05 Feb 2022, 20:19
by Coco
Esham Pickering
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 06 Feb 2022, 05:41
by dan28uk
ola ofalavbi , think he only won ibo
stephen smith
paul smith
michael gomez
gary lockett
carl johannsen
liam walsh
just naming names here

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 06 Feb 2022, 05:45
by Counter-puncher
knockout wrote: ↑05 Feb 2022, 19:32
Some names to start Macklin , Murray , Ryder, Whyte, Joyce , Mitchell, Brodie
Murray too high

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 06 Feb 2022, 05:47
by knockout
Luke Campbell got to be top? I missed him from my list but Dr Devious came through :)
Ovill McKenzie was good too
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 06 Feb 2022, 05:47
by knockout
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑06 Feb 2022, 05:45
knockout wrote: ↑05 Feb 2022, 19:32
Some names to start Macklin , Murray , Ryder, Whyte, Joyce , Mitchell, Brodie
Murray too high
Wasn’t in any particular order was just throwing some names out there
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 06 Feb 2022, 06:08
by Ruthless-RKO
knockout wrote: ↑06 Feb 2022, 05:47
Luke Campbell got to be top? I missed him from my list but Dr Devious came through :)
Ovill McKenzie was good too
Maybe on his whole career. But as a pro, Campbell shouldn’t be at the top of the list.
He is in the top 10 though yes.
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 06 Feb 2022, 06:44
by knockout
Dean Francis another name
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 06 Feb 2022, 06:49
by dan28uk
knockout wrote: ↑06 Feb 2022, 06:44
Dean Francis another name
good shout that

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 06 Feb 2022, 10:48
by Counter-puncher
knockout wrote: ↑06 Feb 2022, 05:47
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑06 Feb 2022, 05:45
knockout wrote: ↑05 Feb 2022, 19:32
Some names to start Macklin , Murray , Ryder, Whyte, Joyce , Mitchell, Brodie
Murray too high
Wasn’t in any particular order was just throwing some names out there
Sorry mate it was an old forum in joke from when horse used to do his British p4p list
Someone always had to say ‘Murray too high’. Cos he always was.
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 06 Feb 2022, 14:05
by knockout
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑06 Feb 2022, 10:48
knockout wrote: ↑06 Feb 2022, 05:47
Wasn’t in any particular order was just throwing some names out there
Sorry mate it was an old forum in joke from when horse used to do his British p4p list
Someone always had to say ‘Murray too high’. Cos he always was.
Ah sorry dude, I didn’t get the reference :)) I am laughing now I know the background.
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 08:36
by stujones
I like Joe Joyce, but at the same time I think the calls are a little premature - he's fought one ambitious guy and he was losing at the time of the stoppage.
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 09:55
by mickey1975
610567 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2022, 19:22
1 Martin Murray
2 Luke Campbell
3 Matthew Macklin
4 Jamie Moore
5 Ryan Rhodes
6 Kevin Mitchell
7 John Murray
8 Ola Afolabi
9 John Ryder
10 Andrew Selby
11 Michael Brodie
12 Michael Gomez
13 Joe Joyce
14 Dillian Whyte
15 Chris Eubank Jr
Murray too high.
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 10:02
by Ruthless-RKO
I don't understand Andrew Selby..
He did fight decent op, was dropped but beat Rosales, before he became a world champion, and then got KO'd by Martinez..
Won a couple more before retiring.
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 10:02
by Ruthless-RKO
Are we looking at boxing ability?
How close they came to a world title? resume?
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 15:19
by stujones
mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Feb 2022, 09:55
610567 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2022, 19:22
1 Martin Murray
2 Luke Campbell
3 Matthew Macklin
4 Jamie Moore
5 Ryan Rhodes
6 Kevin Mitchell
7 John Murray
8 Ola Afolabi
9 John Ryder
10 Andrew Selby
11 Michael Brodie
12 Michael Gomez
13 Joe Joyce
14 Dillian Whyte
15 Chris Eubank Jr
Murray too high.
Yes Murray is way to high - almost like a "Frank Bruno" of the Middleweights - gave good accounts of himself at world leve, but no world level wins himself really.
I'd have Mitchell ahead of Campbell - did better vs Linares and did a better job with "cleaning up" domestically. Campbell should have fought Liam Walsh - infact I'd say Walsh has a better resume than Campbell.
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 15:57
by Wee Tommy
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑06 Feb 2022, 05:45
knockout wrote: ↑05 Feb 2022, 19:32
Some names to start Macklin , Murray , Ryder, Whyte, Joyce , Mitchell, Brodie
Murray too high

Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 16:59
by Coco
Ryder's best win was against Jamie Cox
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:01
by margaret thatcher
arguably, though a few other guys on his record who might have beaten cox
if he got the decision over cal it wouldnt have been unfair tbf
Re: Top 10 P4P since 2000: Non Champ
Posted: 07 Feb 2022, 17:07
by Coco
Mackinaw above Moore?