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Bandog wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 17:47 https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/02/da ... r-lemieux/

Boxers that are willing to fight will find a way. Both seem to want it. Credit to both if it happens.

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 04:59
I doubt it would happen. Both guys are with different boxing platforms and they have different plans.

Charlo and maybe Benavidez may be pampered for Canelo.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 05:23

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 04:59
I doubt it would happen. Both guys are with different boxing platforms and they have different plans.

Charlo and maybe Benavidez may be pampered for Canelo.

I agree.

Charlo and Benavidez are both ahead of Demetrius Andrade in the Canelo mega-payday queue.

And Showtime desperately want Canelo to appear on their platform. And the only viable opponents within the PBC stable they can match him against are Charlo and Benavidez.

I think we’re more likely to see Benavidez-Charlo than Benavidez-Andrade, because they’re both stablemates and if Jermall gets the Canelo bout next and loses, then facing David would be another big payday and a shot at redemption.

I think we also need to ignore Eddie Hearn’s recent claims, based on Andrade’s personal lack of interest in facing Benavidez if a world title isn’t on the line.

Bandog wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 11:05 It would literally crush Andrade haters if he fought Benevidez, after accusing him of ducking a no name guy at the weight below.

Bandog wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 11:05 It would literally crush Andrade haters if he fought Benevidez, after accusing him of ducking a no name guy at the weight below.

Bandog wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 11:05 It would literally crush Andrade haters if he fought Benevidez, after accusing him of ducking a no name guy at the weight below.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 12:26

Bandog wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 11:05 It would literally crush Andrade haters if he fought Benevidez, after accusing him of ducking a no name guy at the weight below.

I think it’s impossible to “hate” something or someone if you couldn’t care less about it.

Andrade hasn’t done anything to compel me to either love him or loathe him.

After a few rounds, he usually resorts to employing an ugly fighting style, which means he's not entertaining from the fourth rounds onwards.

And the opponents he faces are usually very lacklustre.

If Andrade did end up facing David Benavidez next, then I’d be surprised. I’d probably watch that bout live.

But we both know that Andrade and Benavidez aren’t facing each other anytime soon.

I’d love to be proven wrong, because I’d love to see both overly-hyped guys face each other, but Andrade’s track-record from the last 13½ years suggests I won’t be.

For the record, Demetrius Andrade only made the jump to 168lbs to avoid facing Zhanibek Alimkhanuly. And even Eddie Hearn has openly admitted to this being the case.

Bandog wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 18:33

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 12:26

Bandog wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 11:05 It would literally crush Andrade haters if he fought Benevidez, after accusing him of ducking a no name guy at the weight below.

I think it’s impossible to “hate” something or someone if you couldn’t care less about it.

Andrade hasn’t done anything to compel me to either love him or loathe him.

After a few rounds, he usually resorts to employing an ugly fighting style, which means he's not entertaining from the fourth rounds onwards.

And the opponents he faces are usually very lacklustre.

If Andrade did end up facing David Benavidez next, then I’d be surprised. I’d probably watch that bout live.

But we both know that Andrade and Benavidez aren’t facing each other anytime soon.

I’d love to be proven wrong, because I’d love to see both overly-hyped guys face each other, but Andrade’s track-record from the last 13½ years suggests I won’t be.

For the record, Demetrius Andrade only made the jump to 168lbs to avoid facing Zhanibek Alimkhanuly. And even Eddie Hearn has openly admitted to this being the case.

This is where your obvious ignorance comes in., Hearn has admitted that Andrade is only moving up to avoid Zhan?

Not sure what you look like, but am guessing you are dumber than you look, if that's possible.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 20:02

Bandog wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 18:33

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 12:26
I think it’s impossible to “hate” something or someone if you couldn’t care less about it.

Andrade hasn’t done anything to compel me to either love him or loathe him.

After a few rounds, he usually resorts to employing an ugly fighting style, which means he's not entertaining from the fourth rounds onwards.

And the opponents he faces are usually very lacklustre.

If Andrade did end up facing David Benavidez next, then I’d be surprised. I’d probably watch that bout live.

But we both know that Andrade and Benavidez aren’t facing each other anytime soon.

I’d love to be proven wrong, because I’d love to see both overly-hyped guys face each other, but Andrade’s track-record from the last 13½ years suggests I won’t be.

For the record, Demetrius Andrade only made the jump to 168lbs to avoid facing Zhanibek Alimkhanuly. And even Eddie Hearn has openly admitted to this being the case.

This is where your obvious ignorance comes in., Hearn has admitted that Andrade is only moving up to avoid Zhan?

Not sure what you look like, but am guessing you are dumber than you look, if that's possible.

I actually posted Eddie Hearn’s words verbatim from an interview at least four times to this forum.

I even posted the actual video itself

Would you like me to post this information for a fifth time?

Who is dumber? The person that provides proof or the mentally-deranged emotionally-disturbed individual that ignores information when they’re being spoon-fed?

Come on kid! Let me post this information for a fifth time?

In fact, let’s play a game, shall we, of information ping pong, where you keep ignoring real-world facts, despite me constantly posting proof?

Bandog wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 07:39

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 20:02

Bandog wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 18:33

This is where your obvious ignorance comes in., Hearn has admitted that Andrade is only moving up to avoid Zhan?

Not sure what you look like, but am guessing you are dumber than you look, if that's possible.

I actually posted Eddie Hearn’s words verbatim from an interview at least four times to this forum.

I even posted the actual video itself

Would you like me to post this information for a fifth time?

Who is dumber? The person that provides proof or the mentally-deranged emotionally-disturbed individual that ignores information when they’re being spoon-fed?

Come on kid! Let me post this information for a fifth time?

In fact, let’s play a game, shall we, of information ping pong, where you keep ignoring real-world facts, despite me constantly posting proof?

Hearn never said Andrade was moving up because he was afraid of Alimkhanuly. He simply said they had to make something happen, and he can't keep taking low-level fights with no unification bouts, or big money fights in sight. He also said he was struggling to make 160. It's an obvious case of risk vs reward. Risk against a quality boxer that offers no reward money-wise, and he's still in the same spot.

NateJR wrote: ↑16 Feb 2022, 10:43 There's a better chance the earth is actually flat than the likely hood of this fight actually happen.

apollo creed wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022, 02:53 “[The fight with Andrade] can be [on] either [network], but the money needs to be superior, much more than to fight Canelo.”

Lewkowicz added, “It needs to be much more than that [$7 million].”

“Yes,” Lewkowicz said when asked to reiterate his request for a high purse. “Because it’s not an easy fight. He’s [Andrade] a great fighter. Whoever wants to put that fight [on], it’s most likely not [going to be] so attractive. That one needs to be for the money.”

“No, because this is what [Benavidez] deserves when he fights a guy who brings nothing to the table,” Lewkowicz said, referring to Andrade.

“People [don’t] pay to see [Andrade],” Lewkowicz added.




So basically it ain't gonna happen and btw who beat Benavidez to deserve a big payday? He's an unproven fighter at the top level with no big profile. Indeed he's young and that's a very big advantage.

Andrade should've fought Janibek. Also at least at 160 he had a title and some good names like Mung, GGG and Eubank Jr.

Atm his career looks like Sven Otke's career.

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022, 03:29

apollo creed wrote: ↑17 Feb 2022, 02:53 “[The fight with Andrade] can be [on] either [network], but the money needs to be superior, much more than to fight Canelo.”

Lewkowicz added, “It needs to be much more than that [$7 million].”

“Yes,” Lewkowicz said when asked to reiterate his request for a high purse. “Because it’s not an easy fight. He’s [Andrade] a great fighter. Whoever wants to put that fight [on], it’s most likely not [going to be] so attractive. That one needs to be for the money.”

“No, because this is what [Benavidez] deserves when he fights a guy who brings nothing to the table,” Lewkowicz said, referring to Andrade.

“People [don’t] pay to see [Andrade],” Lewkowicz added.




So basically it ain't gonna happen and btw who beat Benavidez to deserve a big payday? He's an unproven fighter at the top level with no big profile. Indeed he's young and that's a very big advantage.

Andrade should've fought Janibek. Also at least at 160 he had a title and some good names like Mung, GGG and Eubank Jr.

Atm his career looks like Sven Otke's career.

It’s weird that Benevidez essentially calls out Andrade and then his promoter comes out and says he doesn’t really have any interest in the fight and he’d need to be paid well in excess of $7m for it to happen. Not on the same page at all and it doesn’t reflect well on Lewkowicz that he talks like this and then matches Benevidez, at least recently, with poor opposition.