bugner vs aj
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 00:07
it's been said that bugner losing to joe fraazier tops everything joshua has done, so would he beat the big man?
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Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 09:51
Bugner was a weird one. As he was, it would be tough to pick. If he was able to fully engage when stepping up, Joe has the goods to easily beat AJ. Unfortunately Joe would be happy to lose a UD to AJ and call it a day.
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 11:17
Bugner by UD
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 12:54
3 years ago numerous people on this forum were calling Joshua an all time great.
Now he is seen losing to Joe Bugner,
I find the flip flopping hilarious
Now he is seen losing to Joe Bugner,
I find the flip flopping hilarious
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 13:05
I remember calling AJ "Bruno 2.0" and getting attacked!!tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 12:54 3 years ago numerous people on this forum were calling Joshua an all time great.
Now he is seen losing to Joe Bugner,
I find the flip flopping hilarious
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 13:10
I was there with you. I did not see what others see.oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 13:05I remember calling AJ "Bruno 2.0" and getting attacked!!tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 12:54 3 years ago numerous people on this forum were calling Joshua an all time great.
Now he is seen losing to Joe Bugner,
I find the flip flopping hilarious
I also do not understand the Fury is a top 10 all time heavyweight hype either.
Before Klitschko fight people called hi a bum who couldn't box. Then he was a master boxer in the mold of Ali. When knocked down by cunningham he was called chinny and couldn't take a punch. Then gets knocked down numerous times by Wilder and people are like look how he recovered he has a chin of granite.
WTF is going on with this?
Why not let their careers play out before claiming they are an all time great? Let's see how it plays out. At least wait until their careers are winding down before making such insane comparisons
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 13:13
It'll always happen. Fights aren't like team sports. We have way more time to chat and less time to watch. Baseball; Basketball; Football, etc. play every other day or every week, so less time to think about things.tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 13:10I was there with you. I did not see what others see.oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 13:05I remember calling AJ "Bruno 2.0" and getting attacked!!tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 12:54 3 years ago numerous people on this forum were calling Joshua an all time great.
Now he is seen losing to Joe Bugner,
I find the flip flopping hilarious
I also do not understand the Fury is a top 10 all time heavyweight hype either.
Before Klitschko fight people called hi a bum who couldn't box. Then he was a master boxer in the mold of Ali. When knocked down by cunningham he was called chinny and couldn't take a punch. Then gets knocked down numerous times by Wilder and people are like look how he recovered he has a chin of granite.
WTF is going on with this?
Why not let their careers play out before claiming they are an all time great? Let's see how it plays out. At least wait until their careers are winding down before making such insane comparisons
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 15:41
Never was sold on Joshua, but Bugner wouldn't win him.
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 16:38
Draw
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 17:21
Must be AJ on points.
Bugner had the chin/skills to survive and in very elite company - win some rounds too - but not nearly enough pop on his punches to impose himself or look good with the judges.
At a domestic level he stepped-in and banged over a few guys.
It is the same old story with Joe......everything was there apart from a hook or uppercut that dissuaded the very top guys from moving to the middle of the ring and which grabbed Joe some extra rounds with a hard, clean shot.
Bugner had the chin/skills to survive and in very elite company - win some rounds too - but not nearly enough pop on his punches to impose himself or look good with the judges.
At a domestic level he stepped-in and banged over a few guys.
It is the same old story with Joe......everything was there apart from a hook or uppercut that dissuaded the very top guys from moving to the middle of the ring and which grabbed Joe some extra rounds with a hard, clean shot.
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 20:23
Great point!tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 12:54 3 years ago numerous people on this forum were calling Joshua an all time great.
Now he is seen losing to Joe Bugner,
I find the flip flopping hilarious
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 21 Feb 2022, 11:51
I think some people "flip flop". They realize that they overrated a guy (Joshua in this case) after they see him/look bad.
Other people just never said much about him earlier. They realized that he was untested.
Other people just never said much about him earlier. They realized that he was untested.
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 21 Feb 2022, 12:02
I agree that people rush to judgement way too early for active fighters.tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 13:10I was there with you. I did not see what others see.oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 13:05I remember calling AJ "Bruno 2.0" and getting attacked!!tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 12:54 3 years ago numerous people on this forum were calling Joshua an all time great.
Now he is seen losing to Joe Bugner,
I find the flip flopping hilarious
I also do not understand the Fury is a top 10 all time heavyweight hype either.
Before Klitschko fight people called hi a bum who couldn't box. Then he was a master boxer in the mold of Ali. When knocked down by cunningham he was called chinny and couldn't take a punch. Then gets knocked down numerous times by Wilder and people are like look how he recovered he has a chin of granite.
WTF is going on with this?
Why not let their careers play out before claiming they are an all time great? Let's see how it plays out. At least wait until their careers are winding down before making such insane comparisons
Agree that we should wait until their careers are winding down before rating them among the greats. It actually takes longer to figure how good a fighter actually is nowadays. The top guys often avoid each other like the plague. Contenders don't fight other contenders like they used to. Look at Joshua. After all this time, he still never fought Wilder or Fury.
We simply don't have enough information to go on a lot of the time.
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 21 Feb 2022, 22:54
only 1 person actually outright picked bugner, so what's all the flip flopping talk about? and did they even call aj a great before?
i'd go with aj too, bug would be put into his shell and not do enough
i'd go with aj too, bug would be put into his shell and not do enough
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 21 Feb 2022, 23:02
ya agree with all thisBodyshot3 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 17:21 Must be AJ on points.
Bugner had the chin/skills to survive and in very elite company - win some rounds too - but not nearly enough pop on his punches to impose himself or look good with the judges.
At a domestic level he stepped-in and banged over a few guys.
It is the same old story with Joe......everything was there apart from a hook or uppercut that dissuaded the very top guys from moving to the middle of the ring and which grabbed Joe some extra rounds with a hard, clean shot.
Re: bugner vs aj
Posted: 22 Feb 2022, 06:21
AJ by either decision or late round stoppage after throwing and landing more punches than Bugner.