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Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 09:01
by Ruthless-RKO
Eddie Hearn makes official offer for Andy Ruiz Jr vs Derek Chisora, but says Al Haymon’s PBC want ‘more money’
Eddie Hearn has revealed that he’s now made an official offer to Andy Ruiz Jr’s representatives for a fight with Derek Chisora next.
Chisora is now 38 and on a run of three consecutive defeats – to Oleksandr Usyk and Joseph Parker, twice.
However, he has insisted that he intends to keep fighting following his most recent loss to Parker.
There has even been talk of Chisora facing Deontay Wilder, though his own coach Dave Coldwell opined that he did not want to see this happen.
Now, the suggestion of a bout with Ruiz Jr has emerged.
On Twitter, the Mexican-American asked:
“Who should I fight next? Let me see in the comments.”
Chisora replied:
“Want to come to London?”
Matchroom promoter Hearn has revealed that he’s submitted an official offer to try and make this a reality.
“When is Chisora out next?” Hearn said,
“I wanna make Chisora against Andy Ruiz Jr.
“I made PBC an offer for that fight on Friday.
“They want more money, understood.
“But I wanna make Chisora vs Ruiz, that’s a great fight.”
Ruiz Jr has fought just once since his rematch defeat to Anthony Joshua in 2019.
He took 18 months out of the ring and then returned with new trainer Eddy Reynoso in May 2021.
Ruiz Jr was floored by Chris Arreola in this fight, but got up and ultimately won on points.
It was hoped that he would build on this momentum and quickly return to the ring again, but this has turned out not to be the case.
Instead, in August, Ruiz Jr underwent surgery on his right knee to deal with long-standing issues that he’d been struggling with for the last three years.
As a result, he has not fought since the Arreola bout and still does not have anything scheduled.
He is now back in the gym though, and little-known coach Alfredo Osuna has posted clips of himself taking Ruiz Jr on the pads.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 09:03
by Ruthless-RKO
I'd rather see Chisora win a fight.
He's lost his last 3 in a row.
No wonder Al wants more money.
Ruiz beating Chisora does NOTHING for him.
Del should get back in the win column.
Can't see them selling PPV's on back to back to back losses.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 09:28
by digzee
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 09:03
I'd rather see Chisora win a fight.
He's lost his last 3 in a row.
No wonder Al wants more money.
Ruiz beating Chisora does NOTHING for him.
Why would Al want big money when this should be a routine win for Ruiz? It's a perfect comeback fight for Ruiz fighting against a old shopworn fighter who he should look good against.
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 09:03
Del should get back in the win column.
Can't see them selling PPV's on back to back to back losses.
I agree with you here. Del should fight a soft touch after all the tough fights he's been taking but the problem is he doesn't want to as he loves being the main event in big fights.
It wouldn't be on PPV it'd be on DAZN like the Parker fight.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 09:44
by Ruthless-RKO
digzee wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 09:28
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 09:03
I'd rather see Chisora win a fight.
He's lost his last 3 in a row.
No wonder Al wants more money.
Ruiz beating Chisora does NOTHING for him.
Why would Al want big money when this should be a routine win for Ruiz? It's a perfect comeback fight for Ruiz fighting against a old shopworn fighter who he should look good against.
Who knows if it's big money. Eddie said 'more money'..
Depends what Hearn offered.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 09:55
by margaret thatcher
not interested in this one really
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 09:57
by Ruthless-RKO
That's not like you Mags!!
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 09:58
by margaret thatcher
del looked punchy last fight, legs were awful
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 10:11
by IRONFIST
Stick Chizza in with Joshua instead if Joshua still hasn't got an interim opponent.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 20:07
by digzee
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 09:44
digzee wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 09:28
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 09:03
I'd rather see Chisora win a fight.
He's lost his last 3 in a row.
No wonder Al wants more money.
Ruiz beating Chisora does NOTHING for him.
Why would Al want big money when this should be a routine win for Ruiz? It's a perfect comeback fight for Ruiz fighting against a old shopworn fighter who he should look good against.
Who knows if it's big money. Eddie said 'more money'..
Depends what Hearn offered.
Yes we don't know, which is why I was surprised you said "No wonder Al wants more money.".
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 20:12
by Coco
digzee wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 20:07
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 09:44
digzee wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 09:28
Why would Al want big money when this should be a routine win for Ruiz? It's a perfect comeback fight for Ruiz fighting against a old shopworn fighter who he should look good against.
Who knows if it's big money. Eddie said 'more money'..
Depends what Hearn offered.
Yes we don't know, which is why I was surprised you said "No wonder Al wants more money.".
Apparently he offered him 1200 quid plus expenses
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 20:16
by digzee
Coco wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 20:12
digzee wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 20:07
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 09:44
Who knows if it's big money. Eddie said 'more money'..
Depends what Hearn offered.
Yes we don't know, which is why I was surprised you said "No wonder Al wants more money.".
Apparently he offered him 1200 quid plus expenses
If the expenses included Snickers on demand that equates to around £3.4m. Fair offer imo.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 22:10
by Wales
Ruiz (reportedly) got £1m for the arreola fight. Chisora 2.5m for Parker 2.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 07:42
by dookus
I do not see that going well for Chisora
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 08:51
by stujones
Interesting fight I would say - stylewise I think Chisora is taylor made for Ruiz's slow legs. However, we don't know 1) Really how good Ruiz is and 2) What condition Ruiz will be in and if that is of benefit
Chris Arreola is, lets be honest, a pretty poor fighter who has been incredibly lucky to have world title fights - poor defence, poor condition and is getting older. He gave Ruiz fits - and perhaps it was the weight loss that impacted on his performance.
I think we are still possibly holding too much onto the first AJ fight - he was losing up and got nearly KTFO himself before he landed a humdinger which changed the course of the fight and AJ aint got good stamina anyway as we have since seen.
Chisora will test the power and stamina of Ruiz if nothing else.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 09:00
by polecateddy
Is Chisora starting to edge into the Danny Williams zone? Becoming something of a strong punchbag.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 10:30
by stujones
polecateddy wrote: ↑22 Mar 2022, 09:00
Is Chisora starting to edge into the Danny Williams zone? Becoming something of a strong punchbag.
Not quite yet - perhaps another wide points defeat and we start to question it. At the moment I feel people are more inclined to go down the "improvements in Parker" as opposed to "Chisora has slowed up" mode and only a fight ago people thought he should have beaten a top 10 Heavyweight.
I would also say Danny Williams was never a "punch bag" - he just couldn't take a shot. Actually for the moments he is up he is comeptitive, but it doesn't take alot for him to do a funny dance.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 11:17
by mickey1975
Presuming that he earned an absolute fortune for AJ in Saudi, will a million turn his head?
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 11:52
by Ruthless-RKO
As per thread on CS
Thanks Josh
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 00:05
by nmhz
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 09:03
Ruiz beating Chisora does NOTHING for him.
Agree with this. I would much rather see Chisora vs Ortiz
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 00:35
by Wales
mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 Mar 2022, 11:17
Presuming that he earned an absolute fortune for AJ in Saudi, will a million turn his head?
He made huge money for the AJ fight, but prior to that he’d never made more than half a million.
A million got him into the ring to fight arreola last time out.
I’m sure he’s holding out for more that a million but where and against who does he get it if not here
Say it’s upped to 1.5m
1.5m to fight a guy that’s 38, is 38-12, has lost his last 3, lost 4 of his last 7.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 00:37
by margaret thatcher
andy has like 6-7 kids already and loves to spend his money (or at least show it off) , dont be surprised if he's one of these guys who blows it. just a divorce away
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 00:54
by Wales
After beating AJ he was quoted as saying
"I bought four cars, two types of Mercedes G-Wagons, a brand new Rolls Royce and a Lamborghini truck, an SUV. I also bought my mum and dad a truck, we have been having fun.”
Says it all about how much money he’ll have at the end of it All
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 02:25
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 09:58
del looked punchy last fight, legs were awful
Well he did take quite a beating.
I want him to retire. He must be the richest gatekeeper in the history of HW boxing
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 04:38
by Ruthless-RKO
Wales wrote: ↑24 Mar 2022, 00:54
After beating AJ he was quoted as saying
"I bought four cars, two types of Mercedes G-Wagons, a brand new Rolls Royce and a Lamborghini truck, an SUV. I also bought my mum and dad a truck, we have been having fun.”
Says it all about how much money he’ll have at the end of it All
He made $7m the first time against AJ.
He also bought a big house too.
Hardly broke the bank. Made it all back in the rematch no doubt.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Derek Chisora - Offer Made
Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 04:38
by Ruthless-RKO
PPV gatekeeper.