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I’ve got a lot of respect for Mike, but he must have been taking testosterone and all sorts of PED’s, because Tyson claimed he completely stopped working out for more than a decade after his retirement and he’s only recently regained his athletic physique within the last couple of years.

He Looks Awesome !
Honestly though, I Don't think that he should Be Boxing anymore.
55,soon to be turning 56(This June) is just pushing it Too Far, at least imo.
All that muscle on his frame,and a 55 year old cardiovascular system,just simply isn't made to be in a standard rules boxing match. I'd be concerned about over-stressing my Heart, if I were in his shoes.

That said, yeah, if we're talking about something along the lines of Tough-Man rules, (3 - one minute rounds) against similiarly aged opposition, then, by all means, keep on keeping on, till 65 !
Even though,like I stated,his Physique Looks Awesome, Absolutely Awesome !...The obvious biological Fact remains, that being 55 means that Things ""Need"" to be Modified, as far as still competing in a fighting sport. I keep thinking about Kimbo for some reason. And Randy Couture as well. Kimbo was only 42, and built similarly to Mike Tyson, and he passed due to his Heart failing him.

42 is Much Younger than 55 obviously. When you have all of that extra muscle though, and you have a natural propensity to get overzealous in you're sport, this type of thing(Combination of factors) is A Big-Time Risk for a Coronary episode, whether it's a fatal one, or a survivable one, in which was the case for Randy Couture, who was 54 or 55 at the time of his H.A a few years ago. That said, I am Sincerely and Genuinely Concerned for Mike at this point in time. It would be So Sad to see something like that happen to him.

He will choose to do what he will want to choose to do though, obviously.
My sincere advice to him would be to keep on working out, but with discernment. There is no such thing as Truly turning back the clock. You may "Look Awesome", at 55,65,75,etc,etc, but when all is said and done,competing in standard boxing matches is Way Too Risky to his Coronary system at this point in time. Especially while carrying around all of that Extra Muscle Weight.

Getting old is simply terrible. Even worse for those that once strode the world like gods.

We are now in the age of routine plastic surgery and the chase for eternal youth is stronger that ever. There's folks in their 70s climbing mountains and some in their 90s doing aerobics. Good for them.

Good for Mike too to get himself in shape. Wouldn't anyone in their mid fifties want to be in as good a physical condition?

As long as people want to see him gently spar a few rounds, then why not?

Of course, Mike can't ever again get in the ring with a heavy puncher, but hey, what's wrong with a bit of self indulgence now and then?

I'd rather stay young on the in side than the outside.

(Below) is how Mike Tyson spent his evening last night. Just another classic ... crazy Iron Mike story.

MIKE TYSON
GUY PULLS GUN ...
After Trying to Fight at Comedy Show

TMZ obtained this insane video of what we're told was a small comedy show Tuesday night on a rooftop bar in Hollywood, and MT was in attendance with a few friends.

At first you see Mike seated calmly at his front row table taking in the show -- but the whole thing was interrupted by a random guy who approached Mike and co. and attempted to chat him up, disrupting a comedian's set and everyone's good time.

While you can't hear exactly what was being said in the footage, eyewitnesses tell us the man was actually challenging Mike to a fight -- suggesting he wanted to elevate his "status."

Mike, of course, kept it chill and didn't engage with the man ... mostly just letting him talk. Eventually, though, another man intervenes and tells the dude to scram. We're told this was actually the host/MC of the night.

That pissed off the guy challenging Mike ... who threatened to shoot the host, and then pulled out a gun from his waistband and cocked it in front of everyone. Naturally, everyone gasped and started ducking under tables.

Luckily, he never fired and put the gun away. He once again approached Mike, and asked him not to call the cops. Once again, Mike just sat there in relative silence, heard the guy out and in the end, embraced him.

Mike actually hugged the man, at which point he finally left without further incident. We're told people started to trickle out after that with some trepidation -- not knowing if the dude was lurking somewhere down below in the streets. After a bit of time, Mike departed too.

https://www.tmz.com/2022/03/23/mike-tys ... medy-show/

Mike looked incredible last year in that training video before he sparred Roy Jones. He could beat Trevor Bryan easily if there were 30 second rounds. King met with Tyson a year ago in Boca Raton or Fort Lauderdale to pitch Mike the Bryan fight but the wba couldn't get rid of Charr and now Dubois is in the picture. Mike still could get a big fight with Bryan (who would dive) and then AJ or Fury. Don't rule it out.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Mar 2022, 11:29

I’ve got a lot of respect for Mike, but he must have been taking testosterone and all sorts of PED’s, because Tyson claimed he completely stopped working out for more than a decade after his retirement and he’s only recently regained his athletic physique within the last couple of years.

Taking Steroids didn’t get him that physique… you can smash testosterone sitting in your armchair all day long but it won’t get you looking like that. PEDs help along the way, but they’re useless unless the individual is training to their max and has the right nutrition.

Personally I don’t care if people outside combat sports take PEDs. They’ll only benefit if they’re training like fornicate.
To save the controversy We should have a steroid olympics… let’s see how fast we can really run.


However - it bugs me how boxing blatantly ignores the steroid issue.

1) fighters that don’t take them
2) fighters that take them and get away with it
3) fighters that take them, get caught, slap on the wrist and it’s brushed under the carpet

Question

Is it illegal for a normal person to take steroids in the US?

Oddly in the UK it’s illegal to sell them, but perfectly legal to take them

Wales wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 21:31 Question

Is it illegal for a normal person to take steroids in the US?

Oddly in the UK it’s illegal to sell them, but perfectly legal to take them

Does that depend on the steroids?

Anabolic? Or whatever else there is.

Where is one supposed to get them from in the UK legally? Prescribed?

TBH, it’s illegal to sell anything in the UK.

You can’t sell fake designer wear, but you can certainly wear it.

Wales wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 21:29

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Mar 2022, 11:29

I’ve got a lot of respect for Mike, but he must have been taking testosterone and all sorts of PED’s, because Tyson claimed he completely stopped working out for more than a decade after his retirement and he’s only recently regained his athletic physique within the last couple of years.

Taking Steroids didn’t get him that physique… you can smash testosterone sitting in your armchair all day long but it won’t get you looking like that. PEDs help along the way, but they’re useless unless the individual is training to their max and has the right nutrition.

Of course, a person can’t build a significant amount of muscle without an intensive training regimen that causes hypertrophy.

But most human males, regardless of age, can’t gain a significant amount of muscle mass within a very short timescale without consuming PED’s.

And it’s simply impossible for males in their mid-fifties to increase muscle bulk, strength and reduce body fat (to Tyson-esque levels), within a short timescale, without consuming PED's and also undergoing some form of testosterone replacement therapy.

To be fair, I’m wholeheartedly against PED’s, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with older men undergoing testosterone injections to retain their lean body mass and athleticism, even if it reduces their lifespan by a few years.

Because it’s all about quality of life, since I’d rather be strong and athletic in my old age, than live longer and be frail.

And Tyson physically looks far better than most men in their twenties.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Mar 2022, 07:10

Wales wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 21:29

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Mar 2022, 11:29

I’ve got a lot of respect for Mike, but he must have been taking testosterone and all sorts of PED’s, because Tyson claimed he completely stopped working out for more than a decade after his retirement and he’s only recently regained his athletic physique within the last couple of years.

Taking Steroids didn’t get him that physique… you can smash testosterone sitting in your armchair all day long but it won’t get you looking like that. PEDs help along the way, but they’re useless unless the individual is training to their max and has the right nutrition.

Of course, a person can’t build a significant amount of muscle without an intensive training regimen that causes hypertrophy.

But most human males, regardless of age, can’t gain a significant amount of muscle mass within a very short timescale without consuming PED’s.

And it’s simply impossible for males in their mid-fifties to increase muscle bulk, strength and reduce body fat (to Tyson-esque levels), within a short timescale, without consuming PED's and also undergoing some form of testosterone replacement therapy.

To be fair, I’m wholeheartedly against PED’s, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with older men undergoing testosterone injections to retain their lean body mass and athleticism, even if it reduces their lifespan by a few years.

Because it’s all about quality of life, since I’d rather be strong and athletic in my old age, than live longer and be frail.

And Tyson physically looks far better than most men in their twenties.

To be fair, he really didn't increase in muscle size. He always was naturally muscular, the fat just sat on top of it for the last 10 years. All he really did was trim the fat.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Mar 2022, 11:29

I’ve got a lot of respect for Mike, but he must have been taking testosterone and all sorts of PED’s, because Tyson claimed he completely stopped working out for more than a decade after his retirement and he’s only recently regained his athletic physique within the last couple of years.

So what?

Wales wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 21:31 Question

Is it illegal for a normal person to take steroids in the US?

Oddly in the UK it’s illegal to sell them, but perfectly legal to take them

Yes, depending on the state. Unless it’s been prescribed by a doctor, which in the US is simply a matter of paying the right doc

bjornborgbook wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 21:10 Mike looked incredible last year in that training video before he sparred Roy Jones. He could beat Trevor Bryan easily if there were 30 second rounds. King met with Tyson a year ago in Boca Raton or Fort Lauderdale to pitch Mike the Bryan fight but the wba couldn't get rid of Charr and now Dubois is in the picture. Mike still could get a big fight with Bryan (who would dive) and then AJ or Fury. Don't rule it out.

Tyson wouldn't last three rounds with Trevor Bryan.

He's an old man, in sporting terms, plain simple and no amount of edited and sped up 5 second sparring clips can change that.

bjornborgbook wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 21:10 Mike looked incredible last year in that training video before he sparred Roy Jones. He could beat Trevor Bryan easily if there were 30 second rounds. King met with Tyson a year ago in Boca Raton or Fort Lauderdale to pitch Mike the Bryan fight but the wba couldn't get rid of Charr and now Dubois is in the picture. Mike still could get a big fight with Bryan (who would dive) and then AJ or Fury. Don't rule it out.

100 percent ruled out. not happening. reason: ridiculousness. absolute bullcrap.

he has zero business in a boxing ring at pro level anymore. zip.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Mar 2022, 05:04

Wales wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 21:31 Question

Is it illegal for a normal person to take steroids in the US?

Oddly in the UK it’s illegal to sell them, but perfectly legal to take them

Does that depend on the steroids?

Anabolic? Or whatever else there is.

Where is one supposed to get them from in the UK legally? Prescribed?

It’s a strange one …

Basically you can be prescribed them by a pharmacy or doctor obviously.

You can also legally import them for personal use, as long as it’s in person. So you can go and buy them abroad for yourself and bring them in the country in person. legally . However it’s illegal to buy them abroad and have them sent to you (sent via postal mail etc…)

Legal to have them for personal use. Illegal to sell or give them for free to anybody.

Syntax Error wrote: ↑24 Mar 2022, 18:37

bjornborgbook wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 21:10 Mike looked incredible last year in that training video before he sparred Roy Jones. He could beat Trevor Bryan easily if there were 30 second rounds. King met with Tyson a year ago in Boca Raton or Fort Lauderdale to pitch Mike the Bryan fight but the wba couldn't get rid of Charr and now Dubois is in the picture. Mike still could get a big fight with Bryan (who would dive) and then AJ or Fury. Don't rule it out.

Tyson wouldn't last three rounds with Trevor Bryan.

He's an old man, in sporting terms, plain simple and no amount of edited and sped up 5 second sparring clips can change that.

King could rig it. King knows Tyson vs Joshua or Fury makes a lot more money then Bryan vs AJ or Fury. King could easily rig Tyspn the shot like they did Foreman in the 90s. Yes they did.

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑24 Mar 2022, 14:25

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Mar 2022, 07:10

Wales wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 21:29

Taking Steroids didn’t get him that physique… you can smash testosterone sitting in your armchair all day long but it won’t get you looking like that. PEDs help along the way, but they’re useless unless the individual is training to their max and has the right nutrition.

Of course, a person can’t build a significant amount of muscle without an intensive training regimen that causes hypertrophy.

But most human males, regardless of age, can’t gain a significant amount of muscle mass within a very short timescale without consuming PED’s.

And it’s simply impossible for males in their mid-fifties to increase muscle bulk, strength and reduce body fat (to Tyson-esque levels), within a short timescale, without consuming PED's and also undergoing some form of testosterone replacement therapy.

To be fair, I’m wholeheartedly against PED’s, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with older men undergoing testosterone injections to retain their lean body mass and athleticism, even if it reduces their lifespan by a few years.

Because it’s all about quality of life, since I’d rather be strong and athletic in my old age, than live longer and be frail.

And Tyson physically looks far better than most men in their twenties.

To be fair, he really didn't increase in muscle size. He always was naturally muscular, the fat just sat on top of it for the last 10 years. All he really did was trim the fat.

To be fair, by his own admission, Tyson didn’t frequent a gym for roughly fifteen years.

Normal human beings can’t retain muscle mass without working out.

Mike is currently 55 years of age and has a physique most 20 year old men would envy.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Mar 2022, 14:03

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑24 Mar 2022, 14:25

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Mar 2022, 07:10
Of course, a person can’t build a significant amount of muscle without an intensive training regimen that causes hypertrophy.

But most human males, regardless of age, can’t gain a significant amount of muscle mass within a very short timescale without consuming PED’s.

And it’s simply impossible for males in their mid-fifties to increase muscle bulk, strength and reduce body fat (to Tyson-esque levels), within a short timescale, without consuming PED's and also undergoing some form of testosterone replacement therapy.

To be fair, I’m wholeheartedly against PED’s, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with older men undergoing testosterone injections to retain their lean body mass and athleticism, even if it reduces their lifespan by a few years.

Because it’s all about quality of life, since I’d rather be strong and athletic in my old age, than live longer and be frail.

And Tyson physically looks far better than most men in their twenties.

To be fair, he really didn't increase in muscle size. He always was naturally muscular, the fat just sat on top of it for the last 10 years. All he really did was trim the fat.

To be fair, by his own admission, Tyson didn’t frequent a gym for roughly fifteen years.

Normal human beings can’t retain muscle mass without working out.

Mike is currently 55 years of age and has a physique most 20 year old men would envy.

Depends on genetics which Tyson has in his favor. He's always had a muscular build even at 13 before he was a gym rat.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Mar 2022, 05:04

Wales wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 21:31 Question

Is it illegal for a normal person to take steroids in the US?

Oddly in the UK it’s illegal to sell them, but perfectly legal to take them

Does that depend on the steroids?

Anabolic? Or whatever else there is.

Where is one supposed to get them from in the UK legally? Prescribed?

TBH, it’s illegal to sell anything in the UK.

You can’t sell fake designer wear, but you can certainly wear it.

Can you still buy rolex watches in the pubs for a fiver

A lot of people take testosterone and work out. Who cares hes not competing

Clinics exist where a male can go and get testosterone treatment, all legit. They diagnose you with "low t" so its legal

They advertise all over the radio for these clinics

does anyone know if tyson is training at the moment?

i thought he retired a few weeks ago, but now i read this: https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxin ... s-30-days/

and saw a video which is maybe a current one where he is trainin g with cardeiro...

Mike is a genetic freak even if he was a small hw. When he was 14-15 y/o Mike looked like a tank for that age.





His body must be made of titanium considering how much industrial quantities of bad-toxic stuff he has consumed.

Its a big pity that he didn't rematch Buster Douglas immediately and avenge his first loss, then fight a younger Holyfield.

Tyson was strong physically, no doubt. He still is.

In his prime he could also take opponents with blinding speed with either hand, at anytime, but the thing that made him a legend was his ferocious 'seek and destroy' mentality.

No wonder he liked to compare himself to Jack Dempsey and Sonny Liston.

Other fighters may have been bigger and stronger, for example Frank Bruno, but they didn't have anything like Tyson's mentality.

Unfortunately, after the introduction of Givens and King and especially after the exit of Rooney, neither did Mike. Some essential piece of programming seemed to have gotten lost amidst all the turmoil.

Buster Douglas just happened to be in the right place at the right time and the rest was history.

The Mike Tyson that eventually followed was still a great fighter but no longer firing on all cylinders.

Nevermind, the 'deprogrammed' Mike we see nowadays seems to be a lot more mature and at peace with himself.

Still a legend all over the world.