BoxRec

giacomino wrote: ↑13 Apr 2022, 18:08 I will start the bidding at Robert Stieglitz. Held a super MW belt for the better part of four years. Fought a past his prime Abraham three times but the rest of his defenses bordered on shameful.
Also, Shumenov. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/427368. Lost to old man Hopkins the only time he fought anyone with much of a pulse over the course of two divisions and eight years.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Apr 2022, 18:13

giacomino wrote: ↑13 Apr 2022, 18:08 I will start the bidding at Robert Stieglitz. Held a super MW belt for the better part of four years. Fought a past his prime Abraham three times but the rest of his defenses bordered on shameful.
Also, Shumenov. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/427368. Lost to old man Hopkins the only time he fought anyone with much of a pulse over the course of two divisions and eight years.

campillo had a pulse too........of course he also beat shumenov and got horribly robbed in the rematch

something was always very shady about shumenov's relationship with the wba, he is reported to come from a very wealthy oil family. wonder if that had something to do with it lol

the funny thing is.....when he started his career he showed loads of ambition and was very easy to like. but then he seemed to realize what his level was and eventually became a bit of a laughing stock due to the robbery + soft fights

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Apr 2022, 18:32 campillo-cloud also a lesson in how a guy can be dropped multiple times but still clearly deserve the decision. poor gabe didnt have the judges on his side

Controversial wrote: ↑13 Apr 2022, 09:14 Any era or division and they needed to make at least 2 defences. Poorest level of opposition.

dagosd2000 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2022, 23:40 Joe Frazier surprised me when he opted for Terry Daniels and then Ron Stander for defenses. These two weren't even ranked in the top 10 when they stepped in the ring.I remember before the Foreman fight they thought Frazier would win that one pretty easily. No one had yet stood up to Frazier's left hook. One column said that George's best weapon was his jab.After Foreman gave Joe such a bad drubbing it's hard to think that George was the underdog in that fight.

Controversial wrote: ↑13 Apr 2022, 09:14 Any era or division and they needed to make at least 2 defences. Poorest level of opposition.

scartissue wrote: ↑15 Apr 2022, 14:59

Controversial wrote: ↑13 Apr 2022, 09:14 Any era or division and they needed to make at least 2 defences. Poorest level of opposition.

If I'm reading this post correctly, I would say probably Tommy Hearns and Milt McCrory had probably two of the worst reigns I've seen. After beating Cuevas, so many great things were expected of Tommy but he defended against Luis Primera, Randy Shields and Pablo Baez. Primera was 15-0 against no rated opposition. He himself was unrated but I'm sure the WBA would have had him as their #1 contender. Pablo Baez was nothing but a club fighter. Randy Shields was OK, but I don't think it would be possible to find a safer opponent with a name. Randy had no punch and a great jaw. This adds up to Randy taking a solid beating and nothing but. Which is exactly what happened. After those 3 'defenses', Tommy met his Waterloo in a unification against Leonard.

McCrory defended against Milton Guest, Giles Elbillia, Pedro Vilella and Carlos Trujillo. Guest was OK, but he was just a prospect, really nothing more. Elbilia and Vilella found themselves quite lucky to be immediately tapped to fight for the title after lucky wins over Nino LaRocca and Marlon Starling respectively. Now those would have been impressive defenses, but Emmanuel Steward jumped at the chance to fight these two 'contenders' instead. And lastly Carlos Trujillo, a Panamanian of absolutely no threat was McCrory's last defense before he too met his Waterloo in a unification match against Curry. To sum up how bad Milt's opposition was, not one of them ever one another fight again.

As the specter of a unification match was on the horizon and Emmanuel steward wanted to take absolutely no chances to upset the applecart by fighting a live opponent, then he did his job. Unfortunately history will look at those defenses as dire.