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BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 07:43
by Ruthless-RKO
1.
Tyson Fury -
32(23) 0 1 - next fight:
TBA
2.
Oleksandr Usyk -
19(13) 0 0 - next fight:
TBA
3.
Anthony Joshua -
24(22) 2(1) 0 - next fight:
TBA
4.
Deontay Wilder -
42(41) 2(2) 1 - next fight:
TBA
5.
Dillian Whyte -
28(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight:
TBA
6.
Joseph Parker -
30(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight:
TBA
7.
Andy Ruiz Jr -
34(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight:
TBA
8.
Joe Joyce -
13(12) 0 0 - next fight:
TBA
9.
Luis Ortiz -
33(28) 2(2) 0 - next fight:
TBA
10.
Kubrat Pulev -
28(14) 2(2) 0 - next fight:
TBA
11.
Tony Yoka -
11(9) 0 0 - next fight:
14.04.2022 vs.
Martin Bakole -
17(13) 1(1) 0 - (unranked)
12.
Otto Wallin -
22(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight:
TBA
13.
Robert Helenius -
31(20) 3(2) 0 - next fight:
TBA
14.
Frank Sanchez -
20(13) 0 0 - next fight:
TBA
15.
Dereck Chisora -
32(23) 12(3) 0 - next fight:
TBA
Question: How are the rankings affected by
Tyson Fury's -
31(22) 0 1 (#1) win over
Dillian Whyte -
28(19) 2(2) 0 (#5)?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 07:44
by Ruthless-RKO
Getting voting guys.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 08:14
by joshj909
Controversially:
- Fury down to #2 based on Usyk having a better recent win than Fury.
- Whyte up to #4 based on Whyte having a better record than Wilder despite the loss.
A few noteworthy HW fights scheduled or in discussion:
Parker/Joyce
Ruiz/Ortiz
Yoka/Bakole
Zhang/Hrgovic
Pulev/Forrest
Bryan/Dubois
There's also a slight possibility of Rivas Vs Babic/Rozanski at Bridgerweight but not yet in the works.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 08:19
by oogiebe
Whyte to 10
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 09:09
by tiny_acres
Whyte to 9
Fury remains #1
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 10:47
by George_Jones88
no change
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 10:58
by Ruthless-RKO
Keep Fury where he is.
He has fought twice since Usykโs win over AJ and heโs fought Wilder and Whyte both top 5 and KOโd them both.
Iโm undecided about Whyte yet.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 10:59
by Ruthless-RKO
joshj909 wrote: โ25 Apr 2022, 08:14
A few noteworthy HW fights scheduled or in discussion:
Parker/Joyce
Ruiz/Ortiz
Yoka/Bakole
Zhang/Hrgovic
Pulev/Forrest
Bryan/Dubois
Bryan-Dubois should be at announcing stage but shame itโs King in charge.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 11:40
by Perkin Warbeck
Whyte down to 10 (two stoppage losses in his past 3 fights, displayed poor stamina against Fury)
Fury should remain at # 1
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 11:42
by margaret thatcher
fury no change
whyte to 6 (switches with parker)
i just cant move whyte down too far considering how inactive or unimpressive a lot of these guys have been
like if we take ruiz, he hasnt fought in a year since the unimpressive points win over a waaaay shopworn arreola. in the past 2 years before that, all he had was the wide loss to josh.
joyce hasnt fought in almost a year
etc
i dont want to punish a lost to the #1 too harshly when other dudes just be sitting on their arses. whyte is still very accomplished compared to most of these guys
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 12:07
by Ruthless-RKO
Iโve put it to a poll.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 12:09
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: โ25 Apr 2022, 11:42
fury no change
whyte to 6 (switches with parker)
i just cant move whyte down too far considering how inactive or unimpressive a lot of these guys have been
like if we take ruiz, he hasnt fought in a year since the unimpressive points win over a waaaay shopworn arreola. in the past 2 years before that, all he had was the wide loss to josh.
joyce hasnt fought in almost a year
etc
i dont want to punish a lost to the #1 too harshly when other dudes just be sitting on their arses. whyte is still very accomplished compared to most of these guys
I understand what you mean. Not moving him down too much.
Before Whyte fights again, a few of the lower guys should surely fight.
For example winner of Parker-Joyce should move above Whyte for sure.
If Ruiz-Ortiz gets made, again the winner of that will likely move up.
Letโs see what the majority think.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 12:48
by cpx2
Kept him at 5 for now, but he's a comprehensive Ruiz victory against Ortiz from going down to 7.
Winner of Joyce-Parker will definitely overtake him when that fight happens; and probably overtake Wilder too.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 13:00
by HomicideHenry
Fury #1 and Whyte #7, bumping Ruiz to #6 and Parker to #5

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 13:07
by Pukka Cheese
cpx2 wrote: โ25 Apr 2022, 12:48
Kept him at 5 for now, but he's a comprehensive Ruiz victory against Ortiz from going down to 7.
Winner of Joyce-Parker will definitely overtake him when that fight happens; and probably overtake Wilder too.
I agree with this
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 13:36
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: โ25 Apr 2022, 11:42
fury no change
whyte to 6 (switches with parker)
i just cant move whyte down too far considering how inactive or unimpressive a lot of these guys have been
like if we take ruiz, he hasnt fought in a year since the unimpressive points win over a waaaay shopworn arreola. in the past 2 years before that, all he had was the wide loss to josh.
joyce hasnt fought in almost a year
etc
i dont want to punish a lost to the #1 too harshly when other dudes just be sitting on their arses. whyte is still very accomplished compared to most of these guys
I put him at 10 considering he's 1-2 (2 KO losses) in his last three.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 13:39
by margaret thatcher
on the other hand, in almost the last 3 years andy ruiz (who hasnt fought in a year) has only beaten a totally shopworn chris arreola, while whyte has beaten rivas, povetkin, and wach
whyte lost to the #1, i dont think that should slide him below guys who aint being doing sh!t lately
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 13:42
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: โ25 Apr 2022, 13:39
on the other hand, in almost the last 3 years andy ruiz (who hasnt fought in a year) has only beaten a totally shopworn chris arreola, while whyte has beaten rivas, povetkin, and wach
whyte lost to the #1, i dont think that should slide him below guys who aint being doing sh!t lately
Based on one fight I agree. Just saying I took his last three into consideration.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 13:43
by margaret thatcher
sheeyat, you moved him below ortiz too?
since 2018 all ortiz has beaten alex flores, chrissy hammer, and needed to get up twice to beat chuck martin.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 13:43
by Tony1244
Whyte to 10, he was too high to begin with.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 13:43
by margaret thatcher
oogiebe wrote: โ25 Apr 2022, 13:42
margaret thatcher wrote: โ25 Apr 2022, 13:39
on the other hand, in almost the last 3 years andy ruiz (who hasnt fought in a year) has only beaten a totally shopworn chris arreola, while whyte has beaten rivas, povetkin, and wach
whyte lost to the #1, i dont think that should slide him below guys who aint being doing sh!t lately
Based on one fight I agree. Just saying I took his last three into consideration.
why cut it at the last 3 though?
basically this rewards a guy like andy ruiz who has done jackshit for about 3 years
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 13:45
by margaret thatcher
see, i think this is the type of stuff that results in inactive/lacklustre guys ending too high. andy ruiz will be climbing the rankings at this rate having not fought in a year (and he was very unimpressive at that...his only win in just about 3 years)
luis ortiz since 2018 will have only beaten alex flores, chris hammer, and charles martin, yet somehow dudes are wanting him to get a bump now. in the same period whyte beat parker, povetkin, rivas, chisora, and wach. wach is the worst there yet still ko'd hammer i might point out
for the guys plumetting whyte to something like #10, what did you rank him going into the fight?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 14:04
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: โ25 Apr 2022, 13:43
oogiebe wrote: โ25 Apr 2022, 13:42
margaret thatcher wrote: โ25 Apr 2022, 13:39
on the other hand, in almost the last 3 years andy ruiz (who hasnt fought in a year) has only beaten a totally shopworn chris arreola, while whyte has beaten rivas, povetkin, and wach
whyte lost to the #1, i dont think that should slide him below guys who aint being doing sh!t lately
Based on one fight I agree. Just saying I took his last three into consideration.
why cut it at the last 3 though?
basically this rewards a guy like andy ruiz who has done jackshit for about 3 years
They weren't up for vote today. Don't be so dramatic boyo!
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 14:06
by margaret thatcher
just saying, andy ruiz has 1 unimpressive win over about the last 3 years. inactive for a year
ortiz since 2018 has only beaaten florez, hammer, and martin, none of whom we ranked at the time. whytes beaten parker, rivas, povetkin, chisora, and wach. 4 of the 5 we ranked and the other ko'd one of ortiz's guys
just seems odd to me that whyte would plummet below guys like this off the loss to #1. we arent voting on these guys but we can factor them in when deciding where to place whyte
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte
Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 15:19
by DrDuke
It's arguable with Parker, but Ruiz did more than Whyte in the last 3 bouts. It's also arguable with Joyce, but he will beat them all. Whyte to the 8th.