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BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:06
by Ruthless-RKO
1. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Tyson Fury - 32(23) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Oleksandr Usyk - 19(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBC vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 2(1) 0 (#3)

3. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBC vs. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Oleksandr Usyk - 19(13) 0 0 (#2)

4. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Joseph Parker - 30(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBC vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 13(12) 0 0 (#8)

6. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Dillian Whyte - 28(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 13(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBC vs. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Joseph Parker - 30(21) 2(0) 0 (#5)

9. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท Tony Yoka - 11(9) 1 0 - next fight: TBA

12. ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช Otto Wallin - 22(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 26.05.2022 vs. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Rydell Booker - 26(13) 5(1) 1 - (unranked)

13. ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ Robert Helenius - 31(20) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Frank Sanchez - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 12(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

Questions: How are the rankings affected by:

๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท Tony Yoka - 11(9) 1 0 (#11) losing to ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฉ Martin Bakole - 18(13) 1(1) 0 (Unranked)

and

๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ Kubrat Pulev's - 29(14) 2(2) 0 (#10) dominant win over ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Jerry Forrest - 26(20) 5(1) 2 (Unranked) ?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:09
by Ruthless-RKO
I know a couple of fights haven't yet been confirmed, but I wanted the list to look lively.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:10
by Ruthless-RKO
My vote

Bakole to 10

Pulev to 11

Yoka to 15

Chisora out.

Will add some polls one by one.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:21
by margaret thatcher
yoka out
bakole to 10
pulev to 11
forrest still out

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:24
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: โ†‘15 May 2022, 08:21 yoka out
bakole to 10
pulev to 11
forrest still out
I didnโ€™t even bother commenting on Forrest.

Just the fact he lost and wasnโ€™t even in the top 15 haha.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:25
by margaret thatcher
you need another option in the voting - there's nothing to put him at 10, just above 10

yoka took too much of a battering (from an unranked fighter) for me to keep in him

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:31
by joshj909
Bakole in at 9
Pulev drops to 13
Yoka drops to 15
Forrest remains out

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:31
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: โ†‘15 May 2022, 08:25 you need another option in the voting - there's nothing to put him at 10, just above 10
Missed it.

Sorted.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:31
by margaret thatcher
just cant keep yoka in after that battering, he was lower to 15 to start and bakole was unranked

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:32
by margaret thatcher
Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘15 May 2022, 08:31
margaret thatcher wrote: โ†‘15 May 2022, 08:25 you need another option in the voting - there's nothing to put him at 10, just above 10
Missed it.

Sorted.
:salut:

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:35
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: โ†‘15 May 2022, 08:31 just cant keep yoka in after that battering, he was lower to 15 to start and bakole was unranked
I understand that.

My view was Chisora hasnโ€™t had a good win in 4 years, and been lingering down there a while.

Thatโ€™s why my vote was Yoka replacing him.

Tbh, I canโ€™t see Bakole being put above 10, no matter how dominating.

Itโ€™s where he goes from here will determine if he can enter top 10.

But letโ€™s see what the majority think.

Will be an interesting one.

I voted Bakole above Pulev, simply because a win over Yoka is better than a win over Forrest.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:37
by margaret thatcher
he took a pounding and looked really weak in there vs a guy we didnt even rank, wasnt like yoka had been an established contender for years either or had beaten another guy we ranked at the time.

i dunno, to me he just looks out of place still being top 15 after that

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 08:43
by margaret thatcher
i get you about chis, but on the other hand he basically fought 50-50 with our #5 two fights ago, a split decision that many people had him winning

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 09:36
by gregregegg
bakolie to 9. Initialy said 10, but i think yoka might be better than ortizs best carrer win, and bakole on the up more than ortiz so ill nudge him above.

yoka to 14.

Pulev to 11. amazingly pulev gets leapfrogged by bakolie but other than that remains well ranked... hard to get overtaken when Otto is bellow you fighting booker..

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 09:42
by CMCanavessi
I agree with some guys above

Bakole to 9
Pulev to 10
Ortiz to 11 (Pulev looked in better shape than Ortiz did in his last fight)
Yoka and Chisora out, we'll need to decide which 2 fighters replace them.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 09:44
by DrDuke
Yoka out.

Wallin automatically moves 1 place higher.

Bakole to 12th.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 09:44
by DrDuke
Pulev stays.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 09:50
by ironbeard
Yoka out
Bakole to 12
Pulev no change

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 09:53
by Ruthless-RKO
CMCanavessi wrote: โ†‘15 May 2022, 09:42 I agree with some guys above

Bakole to 9
Pulev to 10
Ortiz to 11 (Pulev looked in better shape than Ortiz did in his last fight)
Yoka and Chisora out, we'll need to decide which 2 fighters replace them.
Well Bakole would replace one of them, itโ€™s just the case of adding another.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 09:53
by Ruthless-RKO
gregregegg wrote: โ†‘15 May 2022, 09:36 bakolie to 9. Initialy said 10, but i think yoka might be better than ortizs best carrer win, and bakole on the up more than ortiz so ill nudge him above.

yoka to 14.

Pulev to 11. amazingly pulev gets leapfrogged by bakolie but other than that remains well ranked... hard to get overtaken when Otto is bellow you fighting booker..
So due to Bakole entering. Who would you have drop from the ranking?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 09:54
by Ruthless-RKO
Make sure you get ur votes in the poll guys.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 10:09
by CMCanavessi
Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘15 May 2022, 09:53
CMCanavessi wrote: โ†‘15 May 2022, 09:42 I agree with some guys above

Bakole to 9
Pulev to 10
Ortiz to 11 (Pulev looked in better shape than Ortiz did in his last fight)
Yoka and Chisora out, we'll need to decide which 2 fighters replace them.
Well Bakole would replace one of them, itโ€™s just the case of adding another.
True, Hrgovic or Makhmudov may squeeze in.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 12:39
by cpx2
Bakole to 11. Yoka out altogether.

Can't really see Bakole to 9 or 10. He has a loss to Hunter (consensus top-20/25 heavy), who Forrest arguably beat. Forrest just got convincingly beaten by Pulev, so Pulev ought to remain at 10. I prefer the Yoka win to anything Wallin has achieved recently (he's fighting horrendous opposition), so I'd put him at 11.
The manner of Yoka's defeat was far worse than Chisora's in the first Parker fight, and no less convincing than Chisora's in the second, and Parker is a top-6 heavy. On that basis, Yoka drops out altogether.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 13:28
by oogiebe
Yoka out
bakole to 15
Pulev to 9 (best he's looked in quite some time)

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

Posted: 15 May 2022, 14:24
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: โ†‘15 May 2022, 08:25 you need another option in the voting - there's nothing to put him at 10, just above 10

yoka took too much of a battering (from an unranked fighter) for me to keep in him
There has always been a question mark over Yoka, as in why an Olympic gold medalist wasn't fighting anyone of note. And finally he has been exposed by a third tier plodder.
Job done, bump him off the list, everyone saw what he is now.