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Great advert! I can't help but root for Joe.

Me too.

Too slow.

Dent boxes his head off.

I think Joyce is overrated on here. First top 6/7 fighter he faces beats him up.

Joyce criticising Joshua for getting beaten up by a cruiser when forgetting what Usyk did to him makes me believe he believes his own hype a little bit too much.

Don’t think he will ever be a world champion unless he gets a vacant shot vs a spud or gets Charles Martin in an IBO contest.

Dioufy wrote: ↑28 May 2022, 16:55 I think Joyce is overrated on here. First top 6/7 fighter he faces beats him up.

Joyce criticising Joshua for getting beaten up by a cruiser when forgetting what Usyk did to him makes me believe he believes his own hype a little bit too much.

Don’t think he will ever be a world champion unless he gets a vacant shot vs a spud or gets Charles Martin in an IBO contest.

Great point
I recall that fight well, it was my first look at Uysk.
He ran rings around Joyce, boxed his ears off- and since that fight Uysk has got better, and from what I can make of Joyce from his 3rd tier matches, Joyce is about the same.
So yeah, it rankled me no end to hear him mouthing off about AJ losing to a guy that beat Joyce conclusively
Lost a bit of respect for him about that, kicking a fellow countryman while he is down is an arsehole move

To be fair to Joyce he had had about 20 fights when they met and Usyk was well into treble figures.
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deadpan wrote: ↑28 May 2022, 18:12 To be fair to Joyce he had had about 20 fights when they met and Usyk was well into treble figures.
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And you think that fight would go differently now?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 May 2022, 18:19

deadpan wrote: ↑28 May 2022, 18:12 To be fair to Joyce he had had about 20 fights when they met and Usyk was well into treble figures.
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And you think that fight would go differently now?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 May 2022, 18:19

deadpan wrote: ↑28 May 2022, 18:12 To be fair to Joyce he had had about 20 fights when they met and Usyk was well into treble figures.
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And you think that fight would go differently now?

Sorry to query your opinion with actual context.
I think Joyce is a much tougher fight for Usyk than Joshua will ever be.

usyk decisions jj handily i think, i dont think jj would get to him enough to make the size and strength count. i think a constant mauling come forward style like chisora's actually makes usyk work harder. joyce is more measured and stand offish, and usyk will have more time to find openings to move

deadpan wrote: ↑28 May 2022, 18:26

KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 May 2022, 18:19

deadpan wrote: ↑28 May 2022, 18:12 To be fair to Joyce he had had about 20 fights when they met and Usyk was well into treble figures.
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And you think that fight would go differently now?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 May 2022, 18:19

deadpan wrote: ↑28 May 2022, 18:12 To be fair to Joyce he had had about 20 fights when they met and Usyk was well into treble figures.
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And you think that fight would go differently now?

Sorry to query your opinion with actual context.
I think Joyce is a much tougher fight for Usyk than Joshua will ever be.

Ok, fair enough. I hope we get to see it.
Their pro resumes are a bit different though.
Uysk cleaned out the Cruiserweight division, won all four belts, defended them, and the Ail Trophy, then won 3/4 heavyweight belts and is odds on to win the rematch.
Joe Joyce beat Stiverne.

Is this an advert or something?

Joyce is a clown. First time he comes up against a top , he gets schooled. He moves with glacial slowness.

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 12:04 Is this an advert or something?

Yep.

deadpan wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 13:25

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 12:04 Is this an advert or something?

Yep.

That is absolutely fucken bazzing

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 12:22 Joyce is a clown. First time he comes up against a top , he gets schooled. He moves with glacial slowness.

That is true, but it's also a bit deceptive. He is slow footed, but he can fire off punches with power and accuracy. He has caught out almost every opponent by giving them the false sense of security to open up - then he pops them. He also has the chin to take a decent shot, which helps a lot when he can't quite move out of the way in time.
Of course I doubt that will work on the very top guys, and we will have to wait and see...

KiwiRider wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 15:23

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 12:22 Joyce is a clown. First time he comes up against a top , he gets schooled. He moves with glacial slowness.

That is true, but it's also a bit deceptive. He is slow footed, but he can fire off punches with power and accuracy. He has caught out almost every opponent by giving them the false sense of security to open up - then he pops them. He also has the chin to take a decent shot, which helps a lot when he can't quite move out of the way in time.
Of course I doubt that will work on the very top guys, and we will have to wait and see...

Top post, Kiwi.

When I saw him in the Olympics I thought he was too slow, lacked power, and most of all lacked aggression. At the time, I'd have bet on AJ to stop him in the pros.

But since then I feel like most other pros have shown weaknesses and/or regressed, while Joe's improved and been reliable in what he brings. His mental strength and chin seem world class. I think he'd give Fury a horrible night, but that Usyk could find a way past him if they meet again.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 14:36

deadpan wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 13:25

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 12:04 Is this an advert or something?

Yep.

That is absolutely fucken bazzing

Weird ad….

yeah it's probably a bit too subtle for some

Joe is a tough fight for anyone in the division in any era.

My biggest fear is he ships too many right hands early in a fight with a big puncher. JJ v AJ would be a great fight. As would JJ v Wilder and JJ v Ruiz.

Ezzard wrote: ↑30 May 2022, 05:58 Joe is a tough fight for anyone in the division in any era.

My biggest fear is he ships too many right hands early in a fight with a big puncher. JJ v AJ would be a great fight. As would JJ v Wilder and JJ v Ruiz.

will ever see any of these fights though? JJ and Wilder stomping towards 40

Always thought she was bang tidy, posh totty, 57 she is.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑31 May 2022, 14:00 Always thought she was bang tidy, posh totty, 57 she is.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... years.html

And getting divorced it seems.