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philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 00:01
by margaret thatcher
saw this term used to describe edgar berlanga's attempts to use it in a previous fight
and indeed so many fighters who try it fail miserably
who besides floyd was/is good at it?
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 00:22
by Monzon83
George Benton/James Toney were good at it. Benton pretty much patented it.
Anthony Yarde is pretty bad at it but it doesn't stop him doing his Floyd impression.
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 01:13
by margaret thatcher
ah yes, toney was good for sure
havent seen much of benton, but if the man invented it he must be good
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 01:26
by oogiebe
kenny norton, no?
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 01:47
by DrDuke
Broner and Kudryashov definitely failed using it.
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 01:52
by margaret thatcher
kud was the last guy who should ever try it
berto pulled some awful ones too, it led to this
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 01:56
by DrDuke
Yeah. Btw, last night he has finally won. Although it was against some sh!thouse, a local MMA fighter, who decided to try boxing.
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 01:58
by margaret thatcher
from 2014 to 2017 or so he had a fun career, a lot of forums loved him. but then he stepped beyond his level and became a punchbag. vs the right opposition i enjoyed watching him though
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 02:01
by DrDuke
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 01:58
from 2014 to 2017 or so he had a fun career, a lot of forums loved him. but then he stepped beyond his level and became a punchbag. vs the right opposition i enjoyed watching him though
It was the same last night. He fought a nobody again and finally scored the 1st round KO. Also, he bulked to 105 kg. However, hardly he'll face a decent HW, probably he'll take part in local freakshows in the nearest future.
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 03:33
by Frostieballs
Ian Napa!
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 03:35
by high tower 1
Pretty sure AJ briefly tried it
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 06:02
by dookus
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 12 Jun 2022, 10:29
by Frostieballs
dookus wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 06:02
Beat me to it!
Loved watching Napa
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 13 Jun 2022, 09:31
by GreenLightning
Philly shell was coined as a term by the fight night games I think, it was just called the crab defence
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 13 Jun 2022, 11:32
by jameswilson
George Foreman.
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 13 Jun 2022, 12:26
by orbtastic
Foreman’s defence was more in the mould of Archie Moore’s cross arm defence. Frazier used a variant of it at times too.
Hopkins as boring as he could be at times used a decent Philly shell in his bag of tricks. He was very good at nullifying and drawing the sting out of opponents.
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 13 Jun 2022, 12:27
by margaret thatcher
and making fights stinky
move around a bit, single pot shot. hold. whine about something. repeat. win a decision. that was most of post middle weight hopkins fights in a nutshell. i dont see how even purists could be entertained by that.
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 13 Jun 2022, 12:31
by orbtastic
Ring mag even gave him a regular “tactics” spread where he would explain with photos how to tie someone up. It was even more boring than the letters page.
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 13 Jun 2022, 12:55
by oogiebe
orbtastic wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 12:26
Foreman’s defence was more in the mould of Archie Moore’s cross arm defence. Frazier used a variant of it at times too.
Hopkins as boring as he could be at times used a decent Philly shell in his bag of tricks. He was very good at nullifying and drawing the sting out of opponents.
Exactly right.
Re: philly shell fails
Posted: 17 Jun 2022, 15:13
by brilo33
got popular from you tube coachs like coach anthony, i think you have to be gifted fighter to fight in those stances and have success