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gregregegg wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 02:24 If i were bill gates/ elon musk/ amazon man this is how i would find out.

-Beterb vs Bivol + Yard vs Buatsi. + Canelo vs GGG
-Russia winner vs england winner + canelo vs Zuro
-Russia/england winner vs Mexico winner.

All excelent meaningfull fights that really really should make everyone involved money. yet seemingly a pipedream.

daz74 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 03:37 Beterbiev was knocked down by Callum Johnson,
Has Bivol ever been knocked down ?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 00:49 zurdo, lol, what a guy zurdo is

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 01:20 id take bivol over gvozdyk, more accurate, more fluid. good enough defensively to avoid KO shots. while not as hard a puncher, he's a better boxer, you'd never see him dropped by a C level guy like tommy karpency

bert and bivol probably are undefeated against each others opposition. against opponents they can both easily hit, bert will pretty much always look more impressive because he has a lot more power. i think atm its only them who could beat each other. maybe canelo could as well considering that he'd basically only need to actually win 4 rounds to get a decision

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 01:20 id take bivol over gvozdyk, more accurate, more fluid. good enough defensively to avoid KO shots. while not as hard a puncher, he's a better boxer, you'd never see him dropped by a C level guy like tommy karpency

bert and bivol probably are undefeated against each others opposition. against opponents they can both easily hit, bert will pretty much always look more impressive because he has a lot more power. i think atm its only them who could beat each other. maybe canelo could as well considering that he'd basically only need to actually win 4 rounds to get a decision

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 21:32 disagree.........gvodzyk had good but defo not huge power, he was easier to hit than bivol, and less fluid and accurate. bigger guy and bigger puncher, but bivol the better boxer

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 22:08 serious ring injuries and fatalities are usually an accumulation and exhaustion thing, not a huge power thingy. they virtually never happen early from a single big shot flattening someone, and often the winning fighter has average power at best, hence why their opponent stayed up to take such a beating.. hannah rankin just put an opponent in a coma too, is she a huge puncher now as well?

gvo-steve ended in the 11th of a tough fight. if gvo had huge power and laid adonis flat in round 1 it's highly unlikely he would've suffered such serious long term injury


good puncher, but not a great one who i think could one shot bomb out bivol

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 22:53

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 22:08 serious ring injuries and fatalities are usually an accumulation and exhaustion thing, not a huge power thingy. they virtually never happen early from a single big shot flattening someone, and often the winning fighter has average power at best, hence why their opponent stayed up to take such a beating.. hannah rankin just put an opponent in a coma too, is she a huge puncher now as well?

gvo-steve ended in the 11th of a tough fight. if gvo had huge power and laid adonis flat in round 1 it's highly unlikely he would've suffered such serious long term injury


good puncher, but not a great one who i think could one shot bomb out bivol

Lol accumulation. Stevenson got laid out, wtf are you talking about!?

So a 70% stoppage ratio doesn't mean anything unless you lay out a reigning champion in 1 round . I guess Deontay Wilder was only a good puncher since he couldn't KO Fury in one round. Klitschko wasn't a huge puncher either because he "accumulated" a KO win over Pulev.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 23:12

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 22:53

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 22:08 serious ring injuries and fatalities are usually an accumulation and exhaustion thing, not a huge power thingy. they virtually never happen early from a single big shot flattening someone, and often the winning fighter has average power at best, hence why their opponent stayed up to take such a beating.. hannah rankin just put an opponent in a coma too, is she a huge puncher now as well?

gvo-steve ended in the 11th of a tough fight. if gvo had huge power and laid adonis flat in round 1 it's highly unlikely he would've suffered such serious long term injury


good puncher, but not a great one who i think could one shot bomb out bivol

Lol accumulation. Stevenson got laid out, wtf are you talking about!?

So a 70% stoppage ratio doesn't mean anything unless you lay out a reigning champion in 1 round . I guess Deontay Wilder was only a good puncher since he couldn't KO Fury in one round. Klitschko wasn't a huge puncher either because he "accumulated" a KO win over Pulev.

steve got laid out at the end of a long tough fight, is hannah rankin a huge puncher too just because she put someone in a coma? seems like it if we go by 'omg they almost killed them!'

gvo had good but not great power. the guys he flattened were mostly 3rd tier opposition and then he went long in his fights vs world class opponents, not putting a dent in bert (who'd been dropped not many fights before) and needing 11 rounds and plenty of right hands to wear down old steve. he didnt hurt medhi amar or ngumbu either in his other wbc title fights either. i think he'd have the power to make bivol cautious but not to ko him or shut down his counters

wilder-fury and wlad-pulev are weird cases to mention. wlad dropped pulev within a minute with pretty much the first power shot he threw, had him down and hurt repeatedly, and stopped him way faster than gvo stopped stevenson. wilder hardly landed anything yet still manged to put fury down twice and nearly ko him