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Heavyweights: Zora Folley vs. Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams

Posted: 17 Jul 2022, 08:24
by scorpio83
15 Rounds Heavyweight Bout

They never fought each other in the same era, but Folley would have the boxing tools to outbox the Big Cat behind his jabs, right hands and combinations on the outside to either take a decision or late round stoppage. The Big Cat would have the puncher's chance to take Folley out with his big left hook in the late rounds, but Folley would be too quick for the Big Cat to handle by jabbing his face all night to take a decision like I said earlier. What do you guys think and who do you got?

Re: Heavyweights: Zora Folley vs. Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams

Posted: 17 Jul 2022, 20:02
by goose 5
I think you're right.

Re: Heavyweights: Zora Folley vs. Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams

Posted: 18 Jul 2022, 12:16
by scorpio83
Thanks Goose :TU:

Re: Heavyweights: Zora Folley vs. Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams

Posted: 22 Jul 2022, 10:45
by Ambling Alp II
This could have gone either way. Easy to imagine either guy winning. Too bad it never happened.

Re: Heavyweights: Zora Folley vs. Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams

Posted: 24 Jul 2022, 20:58
by punchoutsb
Funny, my dad and I were just discussing this one. I'm a big Williams fan, but I'd give Foley a slight edge. One of the few missed matches of the 70's.

Re: Heavyweights: Zora Folley vs. Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams

Posted: 25 Jul 2022, 07:32
by scorpio83
punchoutsb wrote: 24 Jul 2022, 20:58 Funny, my dad and I were just discussing this one. I'm a big Williams fan, but I'd give Foley a slight edge. One of the few missed matches of the 70's.
You meant the 60s because in the 70s they were over past their prime.

Re: Heavyweights: Zora Folley vs. Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams

Posted: 25 Jul 2022, 09:39
by punchoutsb
scorpio83 wrote: 25 Jul 2022, 07:32
punchoutsb wrote: 24 Jul 2022, 20:58 Funny, my dad and I were just discussing this one. I'm a big Williams fan, but I'd give Foley a slight edge. One of the few missed matches of the 70's.
You meant the 60s because in the 70s they were over past their prime.
Yes, not sure why I wrote 70’s :doh:

Re: Heavyweights: Zora Folley vs. Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams

Posted: 25 Jul 2022, 15:48
by Ambling Alp II
These guys careers paralleled each other, each fought for so long, had several opponents, it has always seemed odd that they they never fought each other.
They each not only fought Ali and Liston, but Terrell, Machen, Cleroux, Daniels, Miteff, Young Jack Johnson, Daniels, and Bethea. (Sometimes multiple times). Yet they somehow missed each other.

They seem to be about as even as you can get.

Re: Heavyweights: Zora Folley vs. Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams

Posted: 26 Jul 2022, 07:01
by scorpio83
punchoutsb wrote: 25 Jul 2022, 09:39
scorpio83 wrote: 25 Jul 2022, 07:32
punchoutsb wrote: 24 Jul 2022, 20:58 Funny, my dad and I were just discussing this one. I'm a big Williams fan, but I'd give Foley a slight edge. One of the few missed matches of the 70's.
You meant the 60s because in the 70s they were over past their prime.
Yes, not sure why I wrote 70’s :doh:
Boxing fans like us may not know which decade that they fought best, but nice discussion. :TU:

Re: Heavyweights: Zora Folley vs. Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams

Posted: 26 Jul 2022, 07:02
by scorpio83
Ambling Alp II wrote: 25 Jul 2022, 15:48 These guys careers paralleled each other, each fought for so long, had several opponents, it has always seemed odd that they they never fought each other.
They each not only fought Ali and Liston, but Terrell, Machen, Cleroux, Daniels, Miteff, Young Jack Johnson, Daniels, and Bethea. (Sometimes multiple times). Yet they somehow missed each other.

They seem to be about as even as you can get.
Folley and Big Cat Williams also fought Mac Foster at the end of their careers.

Re: Heavyweights: Zora Folley vs. Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams

Posted: 26 Jul 2022, 16:11
by Ambling Alp II
There may be someone else as well.

Re: Heavyweights: Zora Folley vs. Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams

Posted: 26 Jul 2022, 16:12
by Ambling Alp II
scorpio83 wrote: 26 Jul 2022, 07:01
punchoutsb wrote: 25 Jul 2022, 09:39
scorpio83 wrote: 25 Jul 2022, 07:32

You meant the 60s because in the 70s they were over past their prime.
Yes, not sure why I wrote 70’s :doh:
Boxing fans like us may not know which decade that they fought best, but nice discussion. :TU:
Really, they were both contenders by the late 1950s, they could have fought then as well. Each fought for a long time.