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Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 08:23
by Steveh583
What names spring to mind? For me, lee Haskins deserved more credit for his achievements. He won so much.
Willie limonds another.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 08:35
by garethhop
Rendell Munroe.
Forget his last few as a Featherweight, but he was a very solid European Super Bantam champ with a pair of lovely looking wins over Kiko.
Determination to make the absolute most of his ability.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 10:10
by Coco
Domestic level fighters rarely get wider acclaim.
The CAT for me springs to mind, although much better than domestic level and gets the love from the anoraks, he nowhere near gets the credit he deserves.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 10:35
by littlepug
Jamie McDonnell
Ricky Burns
Gary Jacobs
Herbie Hide
Billy Hardy
Sorry wasn’t sure if it meant domestic level or just from UK, anyway these boys all deserve more acclaim.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 10:43
by Steveh583
garethhop wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022, 08:35
Rendell Munroe.
Forget his last few as a Featherweight, but he was a very solid European Super Bantam champ with a pair of lovely looking wins over Kiko.
Determination to make the absolute most of his ability.
Good call
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 10:58
by nobleart1978
Colin Dunne
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 11:03
by coneye
Literally HUNDREDS ,,, past , present and future... Hate derogrotory names and remarks being used to describe ANY BOXER , it commands respect for getting in there from a 13 year old juniour to a fully fledged experienced pro .
There are of course the exception and thats being the Conor Benn types ,, but its no disrespect regards his heart , guts and skill ,, just when you hit a high profile and demand and command millions along with that comes the status which is almost movie star , pop star like , ,,, and then its not so much disrespect thats aimed at them its more personal dislike ,, just like actors some you like some you don't
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 12:21
by JWA31
littlepug wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022, 10:35
Jamie McDonnell
Ricky Burns
Gary Jacobs
Herbie Hide
Billy Hardy
Sorry wasn’t sure if it meant domestic level or just from UK, anyway these boys all deserve more acclaim.
Add Kevin lueshing to that list
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 12:44
by emallini
The 154 lot from the early 2000s. Alexander, Takaloo, Williams etc.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 12:45
by JamesPhilips
Horace Notice
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 17:32
by wrighty
Terry Dunstan, Jon Thaxton was also good and achieved a lot
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 17:42
by Old bones Ian
Possibly any British champion at this time, they hardly get a mention in national papers/news web pages.
Could you name the British Champions at each weight?
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 18 Aug 2022, 04:24
by Steveh583
Old bones Ian wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022, 17:42
Possibly any British champion at this time, they hardly get a mention in national papers/news web pages.
Could you name the British Champions at each weight?
Really good point, the domestic level gets bypassed by the mainstream media completely now. Have those titles been cheapened by the silly ‘wbo European’ trinkets I wonder? It’s a real shame. I wish an outlet would back a small hall promoter and put the show’s on late at night. The closest we have is 5 I suppose.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 18 Aug 2022, 05:54
by Ruthless-RKO
Current champions
Flyweight: Tommy Frank
Bantamweight: Lee Mcgregor
Super Bantamweight: Liam Davies
Super Featherweight: Anthony Cacace
Lightweight:Gavin Gwynne
Super Lightweight: Dalton Smith
Welterweight: Ekow Essuman
Super Welterweight: Troy Williamson
Middleweight: Dezel Bentley
Super Middleweight: Mark Heffron
Light Heavyweight: Dan Azeez
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 18 Aug 2022, 06:41
by Lenny Cravats
JWA31 wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022, 12:21
littlepug wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022, 10:35
Jamie McDonnell
Ricky Burns
Gary Jacobs
Herbie Hide
Billy Hardy
Sorry wasn’t sure if it meant domestic level or just from UK, anyway these boys all deserve more acclaim.
Add Kevin lueshing to that list
You read his book? It's not a bad read, really. I mean, it's depressing as fvck, but it's emotional.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 05:34
by bennie
Horace was a late starter to boxing and raised a few eyebrows when he flattened Gloucester's Harold Hylton in the first round in the ABA heavyweight final at Wembley back in 1983, particularly as Hylton held a win over the big Brummie. Horace suddenly found himself in demand and was called up to represent Great Britain against America at the Grosvenor House Hotel in London in July 1983.
With a year to go before the Los Angeles Olympics, it proved a disastrous night for Britain as the likes of Tony Wilson, Keith Ferdinand, Peter Bradley, Steve Nolan and Orrie Jones were all soundly beaten, although Wilson nearly stopped Chicago's Johnny Williams at light-heavyweight before punching himself out in a thrilling contest. Flyweight Nolan had just won the ABA title with an easy decision over Pat Clinton, who froze on the night, but Paul Banke pushed the Londoner back and pinned him on the ropes for long periods on the way to a unanimous decision. Banke, the pick of the Americans, would win the WBC super-bantamweight title as a pro.
Scottish hope Bradley, another reigning ABA champion, was bombed out in the first round by featherweight Joe Loving, while lanky Tim Rabon also needed less than a round to dispose of the outgunned Jones at light-welterweight. Ferdinand lost to blubbery Kimmuel Odom in a super-heavyweight maul. Danny Porter, Roy Hutchinson, Danny Lee and Welshman Tony Price were other British losers on the night.
In the end we only had one winner: Notice destroyed Tim Fryerson of Indianapolis in the first round.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 06:58
by peter barlow
Ricky Burns a good shout
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 08:20
by THEBUTCH
Clinton Woods' name immediately springs to mind.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 08:38
by Spud
I honestly feel Clinton Woods didnt get the
Credit he deserved .
He went the traditional route before winning the world title.
Would have loved it if he got the Joe Calzaghe fight. I am not saying he would have won but would have given the welshman a tough fight.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 09:04
by stujones
There are definitely some world champions who probably do not get the respect they deserve.
Someone has mentioned already - but Terry Flanaghan - think he can pass most streets without being recognised.
Murray Sutherland - yes his name pops up often in the "worst world champs" lists - but his record is like a whose who of Middles / Light Heavies of the 80s. Yes, he lost most of the big ones, but he gave great accounts and was worthy of calling himself a world champion.
Chris Pyatt
Jason Matthews
Glenn Catley (especially - he "beat" Woodhall and held some very meaningful other wins)
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 09:06
by stujones
Steveh583 wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 04:24
Old bones Ian wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022, 17:42
Possibly any British champion at this time, they hardly get a mention in national papers/news web pages.
Could you name the British Champions at each weight?
Really good point, the domestic level gets bypassed by the mainstream media completely now. Have those titles been cheapened by the silly ‘wbo European’ trinkets I wonder? It’s a real shame. I wish an outlet would back a small hall promoter and put the show’s on late at night. The closest we have is 5 I suppose.
Yes - I would really struggle to name all the British champions and following boxing is my hobby. I really think the move of Eddie to Dazn has marginalised the sport.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 09:36
by JamesPhilips
bennie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 05:34
Horace was a late starter to boxing and raised a few eyebrows when he flattened Gloucester's Harold Hylton in the first round in the ABA heavyweight final at Wembley back in 1983, particularly as Hylton held a win over the big Brummie. Horace suddenly found himself in demand and was called up to represent Great Britain against America at the Grosvenor House Hotel in London in July 1983.
With a year to go before the Los Angeles Olympics, it proved a disastrous night for Britain as the likes of Tony Wilson, Keith Ferdinand, Peter Bradley, Steve Nolan and Orrie Jones were all soundly beaten, although Wilson nearly stopped Chicago's Johnny Williams at light-heavyweight before punching himself out in a thrilling contest. Flyweight Nolan had just won the ABA title with an easy decision over Pat Clinton, who froze on the night, but Paul Banke pushed the Londoner back and pinned him on the ropes for long periods on the way to a unanimous decision. Banke, the pick of the Americans, would win the WBC super-bantamweight title as a pro.
Scottish hope Bradley, another reigning ABA champion, was bombed out in the first round by featherweight Joe Loving, while lanky Tim Rabon also needed less than a round to dispose of the outgunned Jones at light-welterweight. Ferdinand lost to blubbery Kimmuel Odom in a super-heavyweight maul. Danny Porter, Roy Hutchinson, Danny Lee and Welshman Tony Price were other British losers on the night.
In the end we only had one winner: Notice destroyed Tim Fryerson of Indianapolis in the first round.
thanks for that. Shame he had to retire early as a pro.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 10:10
by Flump
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 09:36
bennie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 05:34
Horace was a late starter to boxing and raised a few eyebrows when he flattened Gloucester's Harold Hylton in the first round in the ABA heavyweight final at Wembley back in 1983, particularly as Hylton held a win over the big Brummie. Horace suddenly found himself in demand and was called up to represent Great Britain against America at the Grosvenor House Hotel in London in July 1983.
With a year to go before the Los Angeles Olympics, it proved a disastrous night for Britain as the likes of Tony Wilson, Keith Ferdinand, Peter Bradley, Steve Nolan and Orrie Jones were all soundly beaten, although Wilson nearly stopped Chicago's Johnny Williams at light-heavyweight before punching himself out in a thrilling contest. Flyweight Nolan had just won the ABA title with an easy decision over Pat Clinton, who froze on the night, but Paul Banke pushed the Londoner back and pinned him on the ropes for long periods on the way to a unanimous decision. Banke, the pick of the Americans, would win the WBC super-bantamweight title as a pro.
Scottish hope Bradley, another reigning ABA champion, was bombed out in the first round by featherweight Joe Loving, while lanky Tim Rabon also needed less than a round to dispose of the outgunned Jones at light-welterweight. Ferdinand lost to blubbery Kimmuel Odom in a super-heavyweight maul. Danny Porter, Roy Hutchinson, Danny Lee and Welshman Tony Price were other British losers on the night.
In the end we only had one winner: Notice destroyed Tim Fryerson of Indianapolis in the first round.
thanks for that. Shame he had to retire early as a pro.
Yes great read bennie. Notice was going well, but I think size would have been an issue beyond Euro level. But that said, its a real shame he and us never got to find out.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 12:20
by Dioufy
Martin Gethin…
Bang average but got some good wins for his tenacity.
Re: Domestic fighters that never got the respect they deserved
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 12:21
by Dioufy
As someone said the boxing bin man
Loved the Friday fight nights like 4x a year and he was still employed full time!
2 tone baby!
