Anderson is the most promising out of this three. He seems to be the most technical, fluid and versatile.
Torrez is like a strong bull, a limited one. The question is, how good he will be with his game against the tougher opponents.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 11:47
by Tony1244
DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Aug 2022, 11:41
Anderson is the most promising out of this three. He seems to be the most technical, fluid and versatile.
Torrez is like a strong bull, a limited one. The question is, how good he will be with his game against the tougher opponents.
Agree, Anderson is the most promising. Torrez's style does look very amateurish but it obviously works on this level. Never heard of Milton until today, but I threw him in there because he's undefeated and that was the most casual KO I've ever seen.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 13:19
by Boxingguru75
Anderson looks really solid. I like his switch hitting style and body punching. All that work with Fury is great for his confidence. Torres to early but that style worked against Olympic level amateurs to the tune of a silver medal. A big strong dude who comes like Marciano. We haven’t seen him in with anyone dangerous yet. Ajagba looked calm and deadly but against not the best comp. He could really make for a fun contender in big fights. Milton to early and is a bit older than most young contenders but his power makes him fun to watch. Will need to be busier on a higher level.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 13:29
by oogiebe
Boxingguru75 wrote: ↑28 Aug 2022, 13:19
Anderson looks really solid. I like his switch hitting style and body punching. All that work with Fury is great for his confidence. Torres to early but that style worked against Olympic level amateurs to the tune of a silver medal. A big strong dude who comes like Marciano. We haven’t seen him in with anyone dangerous yet. Ajagba looked calm and deadly but against not the best comp. He could really make for a fun contender in big fights. Milton to early and is a bit older than most young contenders but his power makes him fun to watch. Will need to be busier on a higher level.
He held his own in the second fight vs Jalalov. He'll be a Baby Joe Mesi type maybe.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 13:30
by oogiebe
Jared is the prospect here. The other two need plenty of work, and Milton doesn't have time.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 13:31
by oogiebe
Wouldn't mind seeing Jared vs Simon Kean.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 14:58
by punchoutsb
Anderson is the most polished. He and Torrez are the only two HWs on that card that will make noise on the world level. I’m leaning towards Torrez being the best in time given his amateur results, but if they fought right now it’d be Anderson.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 15:03
by oogiebe
punchoutsb wrote: ↑28 Aug 2022, 14:58
Anderson is the most polished. He and Torrez are the only two HWs on that card that will make noise on the world level. I’m leaning towards Torrez being the best in time given his amateur results, but if they fought right now it’d be Anderson.
interesting. I don't see Torrez getting near the level that Anderson will at pro.
punchoutsb wrote: ↑28 Aug 2022, 14:58
Anderson is the most polished. He and Torrez are the only two HWs on that card that will make noise on the world level. I’m leaning towards Torrez being the best in time given his amateur results, but if they fought right now it’d be Anderson.
interesting. I don't see Torrez getting near the level that Anderson will at pro.
I’ll freely admit it’s just wild speculation from me at this point. Call it a gut feeling, and I might be way off.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 15:08
by CMCanavessi
Anderson has literally ZERO footwork. Yesterday he was planted in the ring without moving. Maybe he didn't need to though, so he gets a free pass... for now.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 15:41
by Tony1244
oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Aug 2022, 13:31
Wouldn't mind seeing Jared vs Simon Kean.
For the North American Heavyweight Championship. There used to be a US champion but he was never the world champion.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 16:38
by oogiebe
CMCanavessi wrote: ↑28 Aug 2022, 15:08
Anderson has literally ZERO footwork. Yesterday he was planted in the ring without moving. Maybe he didn't need to though, so he gets a free pass... for now.
He does have decent footwork. You're right that he didn't need it here.
oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Aug 2022, 13:31
Wouldn't mind seeing Jared vs Simon Kean.
For the North American Heavyweight Championship. There used to be a US champion but he was never the world champion.
Who was never world champion? I'm confused.
I could have explained that better. I remember when Foreman was world champion, Ali was considered the "American Champion" I believe it was called. The when Ali won the real title, I think Foreman got the American belt.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 18:31
by margaret thatcher
quite the can crushing there
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 18:32
by margaret thatcher
jah's a great prospect, but jeez bruh, the huge furry skirts were bad enough, but now you're wearing tights with them? has oscar been advising him on fashion?
what's that cross dresser rappers name? lil nas x? giving me serious vibes of that
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 18:46
by margaret thatcher
as for all 3
love myself some ricky t, dude's got heart and comes to throw down. he's short but i wouldnt say he's particularly small for a hw, built like an absolute bull at 230ish. ya his style aint pretty but he's very strong and has pop, he might shine more in longer fights tbh with that type of grinding style
jah's obviously a stud. very comfortable and natural in there. the body punching, stance switching, and combos are all stuff that few heavys do. he's like the opposite of a wilder in terms of being a guy who looks like he grew up with it and can do it all. can obviously punch some too. my biggest critcism is he can get sloppy , could be down to not feeling challenged
milton looks solid but unspectacular to me. he's also already 28 and only has 6 fights vs limited opposition. kinda reminds me of ajagba (who 1 punch flattened the same opponent in like a minute years back) but not sure he'll make that level tbh
punchoutsb wrote: ↑28 Aug 2022, 14:58
Anderson is the most polished. He and Torrez are the only two HWs on that card that will make noise on the world level. I’m leaning towards Torrez being the best in time given his amateur results, but if they fought right now it’d be Anderson.
interesting. I don't see Torrez getting near the level that Anderson will at pro.
Torez will fight for the Bridgerweight title before Anderson challenges for the Heavyweight title. If that means anything.
I think they both will get belts
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 18:51
by margaret thatcher
btw, milton turned pro at 226 and has gained weight every fight since, thought he was starting to look a bit soft
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 19:14
by gregregegg
Just watched the highlights. 2 points.
Bob needs to get out his wallet and give Torrezes opponent a lil bonus. Got hit when down, and instead of acting like he was shot as some would he got up and took his beating no arguments (and took a good enough beating that he will be back laboring or somthing for the next 6 months...)
Anderson is mabey regressing?. Reminds me of hrgovic a bit, just in the fact that by having it his own way he is not using his skills, and i think that sets up bad habbits. That didnt look like a top prospect in there to me, I belive he is a top prospect but needs live opponents to bring it out in him and needs them regualry.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 19:16
by margaret thatcher
this is hardly the first time jah has gotten sloppy in there, he needs more of a challenge to keep him honest. i dont like this talk of taking the next 2 years slow. why the f@ck do that when he's absolutely steamrolling everyone he faces? not saying he needs to fight a contender next, but every time he blows a dude out he should be gradually stepped up within the next fight or two. give him guys who will require a bit more from him
i get he's only 22, but why put limits on an obviously very talented, potentially special guy, that he doesn't need? going by age rather than ability will just hold him back, since he's well above any other hws his age
what about johnny rice next? since becoming a full time boxer he easily beat polite coffee twice. lasted 7 with big mak.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 19:51
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Aug 2022, 19:16
this is hardly the first time jah has gotten sloppy in there, he needs more of a challenge to keep him honest. i dont like this talk of taking the next 2 years slow. why the f@ck do that when he's absolutely steamrolling everyone he faces? not saying he needs to fight a contender next, but every time he blows a dude out he should be gradually stepped up within the next fight or two. give him guys who will require a bit more from him
i get he's only 22, but why put limits on an obviously very talented, potentially special guy, that he doesn't need? going by age rather than ability will just hold him back, since he's well above any other hws his age
what about johnny rice next? since becoming a full time boxer he easily beat polite coffee twice. lasted 7 with big mak.
Quite agree. He has lapses of focus on defense. And it's time to step up to top 50 and maybe 30 by mid 2023. He'll be 24 by the end of 2023 so it's time to make a move.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 20:19
by gregregegg
Anderson dosent have to go crazy, just find some people that can give him rounds with some offencive threat coming back...
-couple of Hammer, Wach, Soko, Daweko types is a start. They dont get ya dick hard but they keep you honest to a degree.
-Rice, forrest, Balogun, Shaw, franklin, morre, coffie, chaney, in USA.
-any of australias top 8 heavies on the Haney vs Kambo card.
Just not euros with shiny records with zero name recognition... please.
Re: American Heavyweights. 3 Prospects
Posted: 29 Aug 2022, 12:32
by Perkin Warbeck
gregregegg wrote: ↑28 Aug 2022, 20:19
Anderson dosent have to go crazy, just find some people that can give him rounds with some offencive threat coming back...
-couple of Hammer, Wach, Soko, Daweko types is a start. They dont get ya dick hard but they keep you honest to a degree.
-Rice, forrest, Balogun, Shaw, franklin, morre, coffie, chaney, in USA.
-any of australias top 8 heavies on the Haney vs Kambo card.
Just not euros with shiny records with zero name recognition... please.
I agree, I'd like to see him in with a decent journeyman like Forrest, Kabayel, Balogun or Rice. He won't improve much fighting stiffs like Teslenko and Rovcanin.