Daniel Dubois vs. Kevin Lerena | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Who wins?

Poll runs till 04 Dec 2022, 05:05

Dubois - Decision
4
16%
Dubois - T/KO
21
84%
DRAW
0
No votes
Lerena - T/KO
0
No votes
Lerena - Decision
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 25

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Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Yarde will return on this card. A warm up fight.

His fight with Beterbiev has been pushed back to Feb 23.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Manuel Charr 😂
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

Post by Kit »

I’d like to see Daniel Dubois fulfil the obligation to defend against all the long standing WBA regular mandatory challengers, now the drug bans have expired and before inactivity catches out Fred, its time do the right thing. Take all of these in any particular order.

Manuel Charr
Harrell Miller
Shannon Briggs
Lucas Browne
Fred Oquendo
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Kit wrote: 18 Sep 2022, 19:43 I’d like to see Daniel Dubois fulfil the obligation to defend against all the long standing WBA regular mandatory challengers, now the drug bans have expired and before inactivity catches out Fred, its time do the right thing. Take all of these in any particular order.

Manuel Charr
Harrell Miller
Shannon Briggs
Lucas Browne
Fred Oquendo
He can probably do two on the same night.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Sep 2022, 19:46
Kit wrote: 18 Sep 2022, 19:43 I’d like to see Daniel Dubois fulfil the obligation to defend against all the long standing WBA regular mandatory challengers, now the drug bans have expired and before inactivity catches out Fred, its time do the right thing. Take all of these in any particular order.

Manuel Charr
Harrell Miller
Shannon Briggs
Lucas Browne
Fred Oquendo
He can probably do two on the same night.
He could do them all in a night.. (would be a spectical.). I dont know if they would let someone book 60 rounds of boxing for a night, but he would only need a few.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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gregregegg wrote: 18 Sep 2022, 22:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Sep 2022, 19:46
Kit wrote: 18 Sep 2022, 19:43 I’d like to see Daniel Dubois fulfil the obligation to defend against all the long standing WBA regular mandatory challengers, now the drug bans have expired and before inactivity catches out Fred, its time do the right thing. Take all of these in any particular order.

Manuel Charr
Harrell Miller
Shannon Briggs
Lucas Browne
Fred Oquendo
He can probably do two on the same night.
He could do them all in a night.. (would be a spectical.). I dont know if they would let someone book 60 rounds of boxing for a night, but he would only need a few.
He could get Fres, Browne and Briggs out in about 1 round combined. Charr might take 3. Miller could go to the distance. Honestly think Dubois could actually do that :lol:
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 20 Sep 2022, 14:04
What are the best or likely candidates left?

Best likely case: Bakole, Wallin, Kabayel, Kossobutskiy? Chisora or Pulev?

Worst likely case: Lerena, Pero, Browne, Charr, McKean, Miller?

Worst case: Someone like Akpejiori, El Scheich, Ljungquist?
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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joshj909 wrote: 20 Sep 2022, 14:46
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 20 Sep 2022, 14:04
What are the best or likely candidates left?

Best likely case: Bakole, Wallin, Kabayel, Kossobutskiy? Chisora or Pulev?

Worst likely case: Lerena, Pero, Browne, Charr, McKean, Miller?

Worst case: Someone like Akpejiori, El Scheich, Ljungquist?
I think it depends what they’re trying to do. Hopefully they’re not planning it as a PPV. I’d love the Bakole fight.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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plz not another can for dubby
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Hard to imagine anything but Lucus brown at this point…

Bakolie would be a nice touch.

Mak truck would be a nice wildcard.

But I’m think with lucus brown or some 20-0 no one airdropped into wba rankings 6 hours befor it a anounced.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Think Whyte was always wishful thinking by the fans. He would no doubt have been asking the earth of Warren after he got screwed on the split against Tyson.

Don't know about you lot, but if someone messes with my pay. I'll do the initial job, but sod working with them again.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Finkel wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 04:45 Think Whyte was always wishful thinking by the fans. He would no doubt have been asking the earth of Warren after he got screwed on the split against Tyson.

Don't know about you lot, but if someone messes with my pay. I'll do the initial job, but sod working with them again.
He got 6.5m! And wasn't worth a 10th of that.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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mickey1975 wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 05:04
Finkel wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 04:45 Think Whyte was always wishful thinking by the fans. He would no doubt have been asking the earth of Warren after he got screwed on the split against Tyson.

Don't know about you lot, but if someone messes with my pay. I'll do the initial job, but sod working with them again.
He got 6.5m! And wasn't worth a 10th of that.
He got 20% as mandatory challenger and interim champion, after waiting in line for years and holding multiple WBC titles. The WBC went against their own guidelines at the request of Fury's promoters. i.e. Warren and Arum.

As I said, they messed with his earnings.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Finkel wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 15:09
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 05:04
Finkel wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 04:45 Think Whyte was always wishful thinking by the fans. He would no doubt have been asking the earth of Warren after he got screwed on the split against Tyson.

Don't know about you lot, but if someone messes with my pay. I'll do the initial job, but sod working with them again.
He got 6.5m! And wasn't worth a 10th of that.
He got 20% as mandatory challenger and interim champion, after waiting in line for years and holding multiple WBC titles. The WBC went against their own guidelines at the request of Fury's promoters. i.e. Warren and Arum.

As I said, they messed with his earnings.
He also got knocked out whilst waiting in line.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Hearing Wallin is an option.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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mickey1975 wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 15:40
Finkel wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 15:09
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 05:04
He got 6.5m! And wasn't worth a 10th of that.
He got 20% as mandatory challenger and interim champion, after waiting in line for years and holding multiple WBC titles. The WBC went against their own guidelines at the request of Fury's promoters. i.e. Warren and Arum.

As I said, they messed with his earnings.
He also got knocked out whilst waiting in line.
That isn't really relevant. My point was about consistency of paying fees to the WBC. I guess I should have been clearer. Anyway, you seem to think Whyte should be happy with what he received from Warren. He understandably wasn't:

WBC minimum split guideline was 25%.
Warren/Arum got the WBC to reduce it to 20%.
Most onlookers expected a 30% ruling.
(90% of the bid is split, 10% goes to the winner)

Queensbury bid $41m at 20% (of 90%)= $7.56m

Matchroom said they were limited in their bid by the split. However let's for arguments sake say that was just hot air from matchroom.
We know that Matchroom bid $32m, and so we can assume that would be their minimum bid whatever the split.

$32m at 25% (of 90%) = $7.2m

$32m at 30% (of 90%) = ...

So straight away we can see the issue there.

Plus, this is without even mentioning the months leading up to the fight, which Warren spent, not promoting the fight itself, but using his Talk Sport soapbox to bad mouth Whyte.

As I said in my initial post, I can't speak for others (and yourself), but I would not be too happy doing business a second time.

edit: adjusted for 10% withheld.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 16:04 Hearing Wallin is an option.
Wallin would be a great opponent, and a step up from Bryan. Hope it can get made.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Whyte is likely to fight on this same date but under the Matchroom banner on DAZN.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Sep 2022, 07:44 Whyte is likely to fight on this same date but under the Matchroom banner on DAZN.
Wonder who will have the better opponent. Would be disappointing if Dubois, an up and comer with a plastic belt looking to prove himself, can't get a better opponent than Whyte who will be looking for a comeback fight after getting humiliated.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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joshj909 wrote: 26 Sep 2022, 07:47
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Sep 2022, 07:44 Whyte is likely to fight on this same date but under the Matchroom banner on DAZN.
Wonder who will have the better opponent. Would be disappointing if Dubois, an up and comer with a plastic belt looking to prove himself, can't get a better opponent than Whyte who will be looking for a comeback fight after getting humiliated.
Yeh, that would make most sense. Dub to making forward moves.. and Whyte can be slightly let off if he fights someone outside the top 15.. But I reckon it'll still be a decent opponent.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Sep 2022, 07:51
joshj909 wrote: 26 Sep 2022, 07:47
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Sep 2022, 07:44 Whyte is likely to fight on this same date but under the Matchroom banner on DAZN.
Wonder who will have the better opponent. Would be disappointing if Dubois, an up and comer with a plastic belt looking to prove himself, can't get a better opponent than Whyte who will be looking for a comeback fight after getting humiliated.
Yeh, that would make most sense. Dub to making forward moves.. and Whyte can be slightly let off if he fights someone outside the top 15.. But I reckon it'll still be a decent opponent.
I can see Wallin being the opponent for one of them. Hopefully the other is someone like Bakole, or Kabayel. Wouldn't be disappointed to see Whyte Vs Pulev tbh.

With Whyte and Joshua losing recently and the prospect of Fury retiring within the next year or so, Dubois has to try and take the opportunity to fill that British Heavyweight void if he can otherwise Joyce will take it all for himself.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Wallin would be a good opponent for Whyte or Dubois. Chisora would be a good fight as well.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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According to Charr, he has signed a contract with Frank to fight either Dubois, Joyce or Fury..

I doubt it's Joyce due to him next fighting in March/April 2023.

I wouldn't mind Charr replacing TBA in this.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. TBA - 26 November 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Sep 2022, 05:07 According to Charr, he has signed a contract with Frank to fight either Dubois, Joyce or Fury..

I doubt it's Joyce due to him next fighting in March/April 2023.

I wouldn't mind Charr replacing TBA in this.
Why Warren needed Charr? Everyone of the mentioned three destroys Charr. Pointless fight for all them.
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