Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

#1 P4P

Canelo
5
12%
TCraw
7
16%
Haney
0
No votes
Inoue
8
19%
Lomassiah
0
No votes
Shakur
1
2%
Spence
0
No votes
Usyk
18
42%
Other
4
9%
 
Total votes: 43

ironbeard
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Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by ironbeard »

Just give your list and (if you feel it necessary) a brief reasoning behind it.

PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT ON OTHER LISTS

This is pure opinion. Make your P4P list and your reasoning for it your lone argument, please.

Usyk
Inoue
Canelo
TCraw
Spence
Haney
Shakur
3G
Chocolatito
Tank
DrDuke
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by DrDuke »

1. Crawford
2. Inoue
3. Usyk
4. Bivol
5. Spence
6. Haney
7. Shakur
8. Canelo
9. Davis
10. Lil' Charlo
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by ironbeard »

Thanks for participating DrDuke.
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Inoue could be #1 for me tbh..

1. Oleksandr Usyk
2. Naoya Inoue
3. Terence Crawford
4. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez
5. Errol Spence Jr.
6. Dmitry Bivol
7. Jermell Charlo
8. Artur Beterbiev
9. Devin Haney
10. Shakur Stevenson
The Asleep Lamps
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by The Asleep Lamps »

Usyk is #1 for me although Inoue may eventually claim that spot. Comparing other rankings, why nobody ranks Estrada? He is about to retire Chocolatito. But before that, Bivol vs Ramirez has the potential to upend these rankings. This is the next underlined fight on my schedule. :box: It better not get cancelled. :lol:
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by SendoTakeshi »

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bud
4. EJ
5. Bivol
6. Clenelo
7. Beterbiev
8. Loma
9. Davis
10. Stevenson

It was pretty tough to place 6.-10, the first 4-5 guys were no brainers, though.
Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

The Asleep Lamps wrote: 27 Oct 2022, 10:39 Usyk is #1 for me although Inoue may eventually claim that spot. Comparing other rankings, why nobody ranks Estrada? He is about to retire Chocolatito. But before that, Bivol vs Ramirez has the potential to upend these rankings. This is the next underlined fight on my schedule. :box: It better not get cancelled. :lol:
He probably dropped from a lot of rankings because he was very inactive since he 'beat' Choco..

Then he fought like 18+ months later (Sept 22) against an unknown Argi Cortes.. Probably wasn't enough to rank him again.
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by margaret thatcher »

The Asleep Lamps wrote: 27 Oct 2022, 10:39 Usyk is #1 for me although Inoue may eventually claim that spot. Comparing other rankings, why nobody ranks Estrada? He is about to retire Chocolatito. But before that, Bivol vs Ramirez has the potential to upend these rankings. This is the next underlined fight on my schedule. :box: It better not get cancelled. :lol:
estrada got a gift over little chocolate and i generally dont find him to be stand out impressive. he barely won his last fight, vs a fringe contender id never heard of
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by The Asleep Lamps »

margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Oct 2022, 19:13
The Asleep Lamps wrote: 27 Oct 2022, 10:39 Usyk is #1 for me although Inoue may eventually claim that spot. Comparing other rankings, why nobody ranks Estrada? He is about to retire Chocolatito. But before that, Bivol vs Ramirez has the potential to upend these rankings. This is the next underlined fight on my schedule. :box: It better not get cancelled. :lol:
estrada got a gift over little chocolate and i generally dont find him to be stand out impressive. he barely won his last fight, vs a fringe contender id never heard of
I didn't see that Cortes fight, but the comments I read sound like people liked it.
Granted he had a whole career before his last fight :roll: . That is why Canelo is still top 3 for me. So he lost against a natural 175lber. I give him credit for attempting to lift that belt.
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by KiwiRider »

ironbeard wrote: 26 Oct 2022, 12:01 Just give your list
But it's sooo much work :witzend:
Can't you just do the definitive list then go off line for another month so no one can argue it, or something?
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by giacomino »

Inoue
Chocolatito
Crawford
Spence
Bivol
Canelo
Usyk
Haney
Shakur (who could be #1 a year from now)
Estrada or Junto Nakatani (toss up)
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by ironbeard »

KiwiRider wrote: 27 Oct 2022, 23:10
ironbeard wrote: 26 Oct 2022, 12:01 Just give your list
But it's sooo much work :witzend:
Can't you just do the definitive list then go off line for another month so no one can argue it, or something?
:lol: Calm down Kiwi. You know that I know that you know who you think are the top 10 p4p fighters in the world.
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by JackSprocket »

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Chocolatito
9. Haney
10. Teraji
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by CMCanavessi »

Usyk is not even number 1 in his own division. Inoue #1.
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by margaret thatcher »

CMCanavessi wrote: 10 Nov 2022, 11:01 Usyk is not even number 1 in his own division. Inoue #1.
where do you rate uzzy p4p ?
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by gilgamesh »

Usyk is #1 P4P with a bullet right now.

And I don't think it's out of the question at all that he could beat Fury. Obviously it's not a sure thing, but I think he could do it.

I have little doubt he could beat Wilder. He'd need to avoid the bomb, but other than that he'd win virtually every moment of the fight he wasn't hurt or downed in.
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by JackSprocket »

JackSprocket wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:01 1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Chocolatito
9. Haney
10. Teraji
1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by JackSprocket »

JackSprocket wrote: 08 Dec 2022, 16:35
JackSprocket wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:01 1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Chocolatito
9. Haney
10. Teraji
1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney
1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by JackSprocket »

JackSprocket wrote: 20 Dec 2022, 14:00
JackSprocket wrote: 08 Dec 2022, 16:35
JackSprocket wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:01 1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Chocolatito
9. Haney
10. Teraji
1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney
1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney
1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Estrada
8. Chocolatito
9. Haney
10. Tank

The Ring reduced Loma to number 10 and put Haney number 8 but I disagree. Loma comfortably won but Haney did good as well. I drop Charlo due inactivity and add Tank due to his absolute masterful performance against Garcia.

How do you guys have it?
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by giacomino »

I’d have Crawford #4 or #5. Loma didn’t win comfortably, it was close and IMO it was a fairly boring fight, but I’d have him above Haley, maybe #8 and #9. Stevenson will be top #5 within a year. Maybe Spence too if he ever fights/beats Crawford. The rest is fine
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by DrDuke »

Lomachenko can't be there because of his loss to Lopez, Haney can't be there because of his 'win' over Lomachenko.
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by JackSprocket »

DrDuke wrote: 28 May 2023, 09:46 Lomachenko can't be there because of his loss to Lopez, Haney can't be there because of his 'win' over Lomachenko.
We gotta understand that Loma has had a spectacular pro career, without the Lopez and Haney loss he would still be number one in 2023
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by DrDuke »

JackSprocket wrote: 28 May 2023, 14:59
DrDuke wrote: 28 May 2023, 09:46 Lomachenko can't be there because of his loss to Lopez, Haney can't be there because of his 'win' over Lomachenko.
We gotta understand that Loma has had a spectacular pro career, without the Lopez and Haney loss he would still be number one in 2023
That's right, but he has those losses and against Lopez he indeed looked not convincing.
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by JackSprocket »

JackSprocket wrote: 28 May 2023, 08:34
JackSprocket wrote: 20 Dec 2022, 14:00
JackSprocket wrote: 08 Dec 2022, 16:35
1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney
1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney
1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Estrada
8. Chocolatito
9. Haney
10. Tank
Still the same. I just can't find Teo convincing enough. Spence and Bud might carve their ways into the list later this summer but I'm still pretty sure the fight won't happen...
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Re: Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

Post by cpx2 »

1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Crawford
4. Bivol
5. Beterbiev
6. Spence
7. Canelo
8. Charlo
9. Chocolatito
10. Loma

HM: Fulton, Fury, Haney, Bam, Estrada.

Without giving it too much thought, and probably missing someone off somewhere. Lopez, Stevenson, Davis and possibly Benavidez worth a mention as well.
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